RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-29 Thread Dave Watts
1) Should the SQL Server be behind the firewall? The answer seems to me to be yes - if so, what port do I have to open to allow communication between the Web/CF Server and the SQL Server so that they can still talk to each other. Our intranet (LAN users) and website (WAN) users need to

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-29 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Dave, Can you speak to the possible vulnerabilities involved with setting up a separate web resource domain for the hosts in the DMZ and using trust relationships to specify access to internal resources? I have a client set up this way. I thought the arrangement was fairly elegant with good

Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC]
Hello all, This may seem sort of off topic and I apologize if it is, but it does involve a Cold Fusion server and I think you guys/gals would likely know the answer. Here goes: We are attempting to secure our network which was admittedly *not secure* before. So, we have purchased a 3COM

Re: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Bud
On 6/27/02, Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC] penned: We are attempting to secure our network which was admittedly *not secure* before. So, we have purchased a 3COM Superstack 3 firewall which is up and running and seems to be working great. I am wondering what the recommended topology should

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Christopher Olive
putting the webserver in the DMZ is a good idea, since the majority of web server compromises are via port 80 anyway. and the principle of the DMZ (isolated public servers such that, if they are compromised, they cannot be used as bastion hosts for attacks) applies here. -Original

Re: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC]
I agree, thanks for your help! -Dustin Snell Unisyn Software, LLC - Original Message - From: Christopher Olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT) putting the webserver in

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Christopher Olive
oh, and as a side note, i run DNS on two sub $400 machines (each) using RH 7.2 and BIND 9.x. chris. -Original Message- From: Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Firewall configuration for CF and

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Stacy Young
Both the SQL server *and* the CF server should be behind the firewall...the web server should be the only element in the DMZ. It's called setting CF up in distributed mode. Check details in the admin guide...if ur stuck pop back here and I can help ya out... STace -Original Message-

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Stacy Young
The only thing that should be in your DMZ is a web server with port 443 and 80 open through the firewall...You need can point the web server connector to a remote CF machine to render your templates Stace -Original Message- From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Christopher Olive
out of curiosity, why would you want to separate the CF API from the webserver with regards to security? that setup doesn't seem to lend itself to being more secure. -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:47 PM To: CF-Talk

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Stacy Young
Sure it does. If the web server is compromised in the DMZ, the infiltrators have nothing...no executable code or template exists and there's nowhere to go...all sensitive information is contained on the remote CF application server residing in the MZ...including the source code of all your

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Dave Watts
out of curiosity, why would you want to separate the CF API from the webserver with regards to security? that setup doesn't seem to lend itself to being more secure. Sure it does. If the web server is compromised in the DMZ, the infiltrators have nothing...no executable code or

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Stacy Young
Actually I messed up on my original post...It's not port 80 and ssl...it's the jrun proxy port in the case of mx...and previous versions it's a config file that operates with the cfdist process to link up the apache module and the back end server. In addition the communication between the module

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Stacy Young
Right Dave...my point being that you leave as little as possible on the exposed web server to minimize risk. Then cross your fingers... ;-) -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Firewall

RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)

2002-06-27 Thread Dave Watts
the communication between the module and the cf app server can be encrypted in itself in case there are listeners Yes, but that's only relevant in the case of a third-party listener, between the two endpoints - just like SSL between a browser and a server. On either of the endpoints, the