Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-17 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
doc.write and innerHTML is the same thing...it's all writing out html with _javascript_, and it's old, lame, and slow. I'd though that was implied. It's all DOM 1. I wouldn't even mind DOM 1 if it was fully implemented, but it's not It's clear to me you just like to complain for the sake of

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-17 Thread jonhall
Nicely done on ignoring every point I made, including the request to back up your false claims about focus. I still feel DW's scripting API is far less powerful than Homesite's, and I'd welcome any attempt to prove my any of the facts I laid out in defense of my opinion wrong. This whole thing

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX (Please End)

2003-10-17 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
Hey guys, can you give it a rest? a) no system is perfect for all b) if you don't like it, suggest a change my 2 cents Cutter jon hall wrote: Thursday, October 16, 2003, 10:37:33 AM, you wrote: MTeF I strongly disagree with this. Both about the documentation and the MF power MTeF :-) Oh

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread jonhall
Thursday, October 16, 2003, 12:54:15 AM, you wrote: MTeF jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message MTeF news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, that's the best part about it...but the script API is even less documented, and less powerful (can't call COM objects) than Homesite's. MTeF I strongly

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread Massimo Foti
MTeF I strongly disagree with this. Both about the documentation and the power MTeF :-) Oh really... :) Just tell me about something that you would like to implement as DW's extension and you can't due to the API's limitations How exactly does an extremely small subset of DOM 1 that is

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread Raymond Camden
Can you send a copy over to me, or send the URL? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread jon hall
Thursday, October 16, 2003, 10:37:33 AM, you wrote: MTeF I strongly disagree with this. Both about the documentation and the MF power MTeF :-) Oh really... :) MF Just tell me about something that you would like to implement as DW's MF extension and you can't due to the API's limitations For

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
MF Just tell me about something that you would like to implement as DW's MF extension and you can't due to the API's limitations For one example, setting focus. Focus needs to be able to be set from anywhere, to anywhere. This is especially problematic with dynamic content in a floater as

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
doc.write being the only way to dynamically alter content is so 5 years ago, slow, and has obvious code maintenance problems. The world has DOM 2 now. Fourth generation browsers are dead, and doc.write is lame. Just to be 100% clear. DW API never used document.write(), they use the DOM since

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-16 Thread jon hall
Thursday, October 16, 2003, 2:20:37 PM, you wrote: MF Just tell me about something that you would like to implement as DW's MF extension and you can't due to the API's limitations For one example, setting focus. Focus needs to be able to be set from anywhere, to anywhere. This is especially

Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Adam Reynolds
Anybody else got this far. The product is flaky and some very basic stuff falls over. Oh well back to DW. Hope the first patch sorts out a load of stuff. Adam [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Clint Tredway
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RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
. It is still a bit kludge at best. _ From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX I use it everyday for development and I don't have any issues with it. I use for CFC stuff for my RIA's. Other than

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Angel Stewart
annoying bug I've found, but I haven't tried using much of the advanced features of it yet. -Gel -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX I have to agree with Clint. DWMX 2K4

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Calvin Ward
Was there something specific you wanted feedback on? Thanks, Calvin - Original Message - From: Adam Reynolds To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: Giving up on DW 2004 MX Anybody else got this far. The product is flaky and some very basic stuff falls over

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Raymond Camden
That's the most annoying bug I've found, but I haven't tried using much of the advanced features of it yet. The main issue for me, and one I've posted about on other lists but haven't gotten responses on, is a real wierd one. It is so wierd I'm convinced it's my fault and I'm missing a

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Patricia G. L. Hall
Nope.Happens to me too.Seems to be an oversight IMHO. You can't tell _where_ the file is. But wait - it gets better. I open the file and I _still_ can't see where the file is. I have to actually do a save as to track it down. This just seems so wrong... yet it was enough of a problem to

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Scott Fegette
If you're in code view/code pane of split view, have you tried hitting F5 before ctrl-S? Just a suggestion... -Scott -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX A problem

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Scott Fegette
Message- From: Patricia G. L. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX Nope.Happens to me too.Seems to be an oversight IMHO. You can't tell _where_ the file is. But wait - it gets better. I open the file and I

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Raymond Camden
Nope - because again - I was convinced it was a setting somewhere that was just hidden. If this is the way it's supposed to be, I'll defintely report a bug on it. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Angel Stewart
This is totally in Code view. THat's where I usually stay, and after I finish off writing a loop or osmething I typically do a Ctrl - S. It apparently saves the file, but the asterisk remains. Only when I click Save All does the asterisk disappear, indicating that the file is only now being

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Angel Stewart
WEll I'll be. You're right. Even in Code view, I need to press F5 and then save, before it is considered Saved. I don't like that 'feature' if that's what it is. What's the point of that?? -Gel -Original Message- From: Scott Fegette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're in code

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Scott Fegette
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX WEll I'll be. You're right. Even in Code view, I need to press F5 and then save, before it is considered Saved. I don't like that 'feature' if that's what it is. What's the point

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Angel Stewart
Sent! As a bug :-) I don't think you should ever need to refresh the page in order to save it/have it recognised as being saved imNSho. :-) -Gel (in my NOT SO humble opinion) *grin* -Original Message- From: Scott Fegette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Good to hear that little 'test'

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Calvin Ward
on DW 2004 MX Nope - because again - I was convinced it was a setting somewhere that was just hidden. If this is the way it's supposed to be, I'll defintely report a bug on it. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Raymond Camden
DWMX extensions can modify the UI of the application itself? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread jon hall
Yeah, that's the best part about it...but the script API is even less documented, and less powerful (can't call COM objects) than Homesite's. Once I figured it out, it left me wanting more power. There is a C API though. Here is shot of an extension I was making...it's docked on the far right.

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Calvin Ward
: Raymond Camden To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:51 PM Subject: RE: Giving up on DW 2004 MX DWMX extensions can modify the UI of the application itself? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Giving up on DW 2004 MX

2003-10-15 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, that's the best part about it...but the script API is even less documented, and less powerful (can't call COM objects) than Homesite's. I strongly disagree with this. Both about the documentation and the power :-)