Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Dave Watts
And no north american sales rep to be found to discuss purchasing licenses. We're a reseller, and may be able to help you with that if you like. If you're interested, let me know and I'll put you in touch with our sales team (or you can just email sa...@figleaf.com). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Big public announcements at conferences are a great thing. And pretty common. However, when companies do that, they usually also release the damn product at the same time. At least they build a good product. Coldfusion: great engineering, crappy marketing. Judah On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:21

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Russ Michaels
well considering it was not announced it seems it was perhaps not an official release, as it was ust found by accident, so perhaps the official release was meant to be at CFO, they were just making sure they had it online ready to download in advance. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Judah

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
a bit...If it wasn't for this, none of us would have even known about it. -Original Message- From: Tim Claremont [mailto:timothy.clarem...@viahealth.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:14 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire... And not one mention of it (or any

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Wil Genovese
It was announced - at least on a private list. I have not seen the Public announcement yet. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On May 16, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: well

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Wil Genovese
True, but I don't think Adobe likes CF.Objective() that much. CF.Objective() is a CFML Developers conference, so people from Railo and BlueDragon are typically there, presenting, promoting the competing products. This has really irritated a few people at Adobe in the past. So in this case is

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Cameron Childress
I think this is an out of date opinion. Adobe is a Gold Sponsor (the only one) this year at CF.Objective(). -Cameron On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: True, but I don't think Adobe likes CF.Objective() that much. CF.Objective() is a CFML Developers

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread sslone
And I'm pretty sure Adobe gave the opening keynote this morning... On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:52:58 -0400, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is an out of date opinion. Adobe is a Gold Sponsor (the only one) this year at CF.Objective(). -Cameron

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Wil Genovese
Actually a Platinum Sponsor. But they also went years without being a sponsor. I really hope it's an out of date opinion!!! Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On May 16, 2012, at 1:52 PM,

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Wil Genovese
Tomorrow - the actual conference starts Thursday Morning. And yes they are giving the keynote. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On May 16, 2012, at 1:55 PM, ssl...@rubbergumball.net wrote:

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: But this release of CF10 just two days before CF.Objective() and not AT Cf.Objective() reminded me of the past pettiness. The opening keynote is on Thursday at 14:00 UTC. That is not just past the deadline for the Friday news in a big part

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Justin Scott
well considering it was not announced  it seems it was perhaps not an official release, as it  was ust found by accident, ... When I first posted, it wasn't an accident. Ben Forta had posted an announcement on his blog and I happened to see it within a few minutes in my RSS news reader and

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote: (Creative Suite sales are probably an order of magnitude greater than CF sales, so while CF is profitable, it's likely a drop in the bucket compared with the heavy hitters that have a broader market appeal).  A

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson
and yet Adobe can't be bothered to e-mail it's paid customers of previous versions to tell them - sad and even sadderthis is par for the course. -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread .jonah
In reality though, they only soft launched it yesterday. We don't know yet what publicity and marketing efforts will come out in the days and weeks ahead... Are they going to put as big of a push as we'd like to see behind it? Sadly, I doubt it, but I suspect they'll do more than nothing.

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-16 Thread Byron Mann
Adobe's overall approach to this product has been weak since 8 was released. In fact sometime after 8 Adobe notified us they would not renew our annual support contract, which we were paying a fair amount for at the time. It just would have been nice as a fairly substantial licensee to have a

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Tim Claremont
And not one mention of it (or any other CF version for that matter) on the Adobe.com home page. Way to promote, Adobe. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

RE: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Robert Harrison
When did CF10 come out? http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html I saw no mention of this anywhere, and to find this page you have to go to Products / More Products - then scroll down the alphabetic listing and click on Cold Fusion. Robert Harrison Director of Interactive

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Nathan Strutz
It appeared online last night. I'm expecting some kind of CF10 party at CF.Objective() starting tomorrow in Minneapolis. This release comes on the tail of Adobe CS6 and Creative Cloud, so it is somewhat overshadowed by the big dogs like Photoshop. Shame. nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com]

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Russ Michaels
CS6, I only just upgraded to CS5.5 dammit On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: It appeared online last night. I'm expecting some kind of CF10 party at CF.Objective() starting tomorrow in Minneapolis. This release comes on the tail of Adobe CS6 and Creative

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread N kips
Just found out now when Hostek made the tweet regarding their CF 10 hosting plans. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

RE: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Eric Roberts
: Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire... And not one mention of it (or any other CF version for that matter) on the Adobe.com home page. Way to promote, Adobe. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Wil Genovese
and smack the Adobe marketing department around a bit...If it wasn't for this, none of us would have even known about it. -Original Message- From: Tim Claremont [mailto:timothy.clarem...@viahealth.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:14 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Andrew Scott
...@viahealth.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:14 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire... And not one mention of it (or any other CF version for that matter) on the Adobe.com home page. Way to promote, Adobe

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread sslone
And if you follow @coldfusion or even #coldfusion on twitter, there was a heavy stream about it. CFHour also mentioned on their podcast... Actually Adobe did announce it via their blogs, even Ray Camden blogged about it.

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Raymond Camden
Even Ray Camden - did you expect me -not- to blog it? ;) On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually Adobe did announce it via their blogs, even Ray Camden blogged about it. http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/adobe-coldfusion-10-is-now-available

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Christopher Watson
Not at all, Ray. Fully expected. Also fully expected that Adobe would home page SOMETHING about it!!! Sheesh. Even Ray Camden - did you expect me -not- to blog it? ;) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Wil Genovese
Again - maybe the BIG public announcement will be at CF.Objective() key note this week. Who knows what goes through the minds of marketing people ;-) Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Gerald Guido
Here's some CF love http://ricardo.parente.us/2012/05/build-applications-quickly-with-coldfusion-10/?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=build-applications-quickly-with-coldfusion-10 G! On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Tim Claremont timothy.clarem...@viahealth.org wrote: And not one

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Andrew Scott
Marketing is the root of all evil -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Again - maybe the BIG public announcement will be at

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-15 Thread Byron Mann
And no north american sales rep to be found to discuss purchasing licenses. We should have a product offering in about two weeks, think there is talk about a 30 day trial for new accounts. Byron Mann Lead Engineer and Architect Hostmysite.com On May 15, 2012 4:14 PM, Tim Claremont

Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-14 Thread Justin Scott
ColdFusion 10 has been released... http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion

RE: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-14 Thread Eric Roberts
Woot! -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:00 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire... ColdFusion 10 has been released... http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html -Justin

Re: Holy sweet mother of Jeremy Allaire...

2012-05-14 Thread .jonah
And there it is! On 5/14/12 8:59 PM, Justin Scott wrote: ColdFusion 10 has been released... http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!