One of the many applications I inherited and support uses CFFORM
exclusively throughout it. I know a number of other applications at that
same business are just like that but those are handled by offshore folks
and I am 99.9% certain they have not deviated from using it since they more
or less
Gerald, I used to use CFFORM, and it quickly got outdated as HTML and CSS
and Javascript and jquery moved on. These days HTML5 is the go with
CSS3. CFFORM doesnt produce those. Therefore things like client side
validation, placeholder text, cross-browser issues, mobile devices are
all
The cfide has caused so many security issues that it is best to simply
avoid using it all and do not even have it in your site.
The other issue is that you are reliant on this virtual dir. I have seen
many customers who were oblivious to this requirement when they moved their
hosting and as a
On 3/3/2014 10:39 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
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I think it is acceptable to let CF do some things for you. For example, I
don't want to go to Java and write the code to handle database calls. Could
I? Sure. (Ok, I lie.) But is it a good use of my time? Probably not. I let
CF handle that aspect for me and it has never been a problem.
On the
Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
Mainly for historical reason. I don't know how is CFForm nowadays, but when it
first appeared in CF, it was really week, missing a lot of essential features,
and every message coming out of it was only in English, making it not an option
for
I have used cf since v4 and it has always had both client side and server
side validation
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:45 PM, wrote:
Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
Mainly for historical reason. I don't know how is CFForm nowadays, but
when it first appeared in CF, it was
I have used cf since v4 and it has always had both client side and server
side validation
Ditto... but for client side validation I seldom use CFFORM unless it is a very
simple form. CFFORM is good for required fields and for some validation of data
types entered in fields. It falls short
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
My bad: Why are people so vehemently opposed to CFForm?
Rule of thumb: Anything that is built into CF and spits out Java,
Javascript, Flash, or any other client side parsed in the browser stuff
should be avoided. Adobe has a roughly 18
That may have been the case at one time. HOWEVER with HTML 5 and such jQuery
plugins as jQuery.Validate, even that argument in favour of CFFORM is no longer
valid. With HTML 5 (assuming that the client browser can handle it) even
required fields are much easier to do than with CF now. About
On Mar 4, 2014 5:40 AM, Gerald Guido wrote:
Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
Because it will only get you so far. And once you want to go further,
you'll find that you can't. So then you have to go back, rip out cfform and
replace it with something else. At which point you
And btw - don't forget - there is a whole project dedicated to helping you
replace these items. (So instead of just saying Dont Do X, we can do Do
This) -
https://github.com/cfjedimaster/ColdFusion-UI-the-Right-Way
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.comwrote:
Thank you all for taking the time to answer. It has been most
enlightening.I must say that assumptions made were more interesting than
the answers themselves.
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Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
Many TIA in advance,
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My bad: Why are people so vehemently opposed to CFForm?
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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote:
Why are
In a nutshell
Because it's a bloated, outdated, streaming pile of dung.
:-)
On Mar 3, 2014 10:43 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
My bad: Why are people so vehemently opposed to CFForm?
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ColdFusion is great, but avoid cfform, cfupdate, etc. If it seems to good
to be true, it is. Learn to build forms and queries manually. You'll be
much better off in the long run.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.comwrote:
In a nutshell
Because
I am going to ignore that.
Can I get a business case argument?
Thanxk
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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Matt Quackenbush
The business case is that it is bloated, outdated (i.e. the Javascript
libraries that it utilizes), and it is not even good Javascript at that.
Maybe you would be better served giving your case for it and then folks can
provide counterpoints.
But the answer to the question you asked is what I
I am acutely aware of the arguments on both sides.
But as I start rewriting our form validation system, as you have
Mr. Quackenbush, I really have to pose the question: Is the juice worth the
squeeze?
Food for thought
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I'm not sure what you're asking (saying?), but if you're asking me if it's
worth not using cfform the answer is a resounding hell yes! There is no
viable use case for cfform in my world.
On Mar 4, 2014 12:44 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
I am acutely aware of the arguments on
Not ever? As in 100% never?
Curious,
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm not sure what you're
Never. Ever. I have never used cfform and it's unfathomable to me to think
I ever would. The only conceivable efficiency for cfform is for a developer
that knows essentially nothing other than following along with his / her
WACK and got to the part that says, Oh, shiny!
And no, that's not
There is always better ways to do things than using the client side CF code. I
have not looked at the output of CFFORM JavaScript in ages, but if it has not
been updated at all theres a good chance its not fully compatible with
todays browsers.
There are also form validation frameworks.
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