Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 10 July 2006 18:15, Munson, Jacob wrote: I understand that logic, but I don't understand why a company would want to spend the money on BlueDragon.NET when they are already coding everything in .NET. True, but say you've got a beloved CF app in your company. You're manager was

MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Jon Block
Does anybody know of an overview page of the myspace technical setup. I've heard they have a huge software team, that they are moving to .net, and a few other random things. I'm curious to how their operation runs day to day in the web development department. URL's make it look like fusebox 3

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'll be honest and say that they have lots of cash and throw money and servers at a problem rather than tight code. I've talked to them in the past about different things on the site and the results have been all of nothing. Of course this was before the move to bluedragon (from CF 5) so things

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread John C. Bland II
Here you go: http://blog.mix06.com/virtualmix/archive/2006/03/17/MySpace_demo.aspx. They spoke semi-detailed at Mix this year. On 7/10/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be honest and say that they have lots of cash and throw money and servers at a problem rather than tight

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
In talking with several NewAtlanta folks during CFUnited: Upside: Most pages have a .cfm extension Downside: More and more templates contain nothing more than a cfinclude to an .aspx file It's become rather obvious that, rather than leveraging the power of ColdFusion, the move to

RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Munson, Jacob
It's become rather obvious that, rather than leveraging the power of ColdFusion, the move to BlueDragon.NET stems from their desire to slowly migrate their codebase from CF to .NET, without having to rewrite everything at once. This is not to say that there aren't great things coming

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Casey Dougall
Why try MX when Microsoft was ready to hold their hands in getting their site ready for Vista. That video was interesting. Lessons learned I guess. Adobe, get your new products in the hands of your big clients with public facing websites and you might get in on the next MySpace ;-) Casey On

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 10 July 2006 15:53, Casey Dougall wrote: Lessons learned I guess. Adobe, get your new products in the hands of your It occurs to me that if MySpace2 want to do the whole thing in Flex2, they could do so, for free (on the grounds they wouldn't need FDS). They needn't have a CF backend

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Robert Everland III
I have been saying I haven't seen a point in Bluedragon.NET except as a stepping stone to get off of ColdFusion to go to .NET. Why spend as much as CF Enterprise just to be able to use .NET and that's all. If you're programmers are learning .NET then it would make sense to transition the entire

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Casey Dougall
Well in october BlueDragon will have cfthread, that was a cool tag. They have also stated their is a big performance gain by using BD on the .NET side. I have never used it so you got me... Session management was kinda cool too. I guess in Bluedragon 7 you can recycle an instance without loosing

RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Munson, Jacob
I have been saying I haven't seen a point in Bluedragon.NET except as a stepping stone to get off of ColdFusion to go to .NET. Why spend as much as CF Enterprise just to be able to use .NET and that's all. If you're programmers are learning .NET then it would make sense to transition the

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Robert Everland III
I don't know this from experience, but I've heard people say that BD. Net can be useful in a business that is running .Net for most everything else, but you still want to use ColdFusion. That way you can run on the same app server as all the other apps. I understand that logic, but I

RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Munson, Jacob
I understand that logic, but I don't understand why a company would want to spend the money on BlueDragon.NET when they are already coding everything in .NET. True, but say you've got a beloved CF app in your company. You're manager was recently convinced that .Net is the way to go, and he

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Aaron Rouse
We looked into BD.NET to be able to maintain a beloved CFM app while the higher ups were pushing to no CF servers and only .NET ones. If we did it though, we would eventually end up just migrating things to .NET over time. On 7/10/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Robert Everland III
True, but say you've got a beloved CF app in your company. You're manager was recently convinced that .Net is the way to go, and he wants to convert all company apps to .Net. If you use BD.Net you have a chance of convincing him to keep this app in CF. Yeah, but why do you have to use

RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Munson, Jacob
Yeah, but why do you have to use Bluedragon.NET? If you already purchased CF, then what is the point of then buying Bluedragon.NET? From your description it sounds like it would be a seperate app that wouldn't be tied into the other apps, so there wouldn't be a need to integrate into

RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Snake
Especially if they want features only available in .net -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 July 2006 18:40 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers Yeah, but why do you have to use Bluedragon.NET? If you already

RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Burns, John D
advantage of coming bundled with Windows and thus seems like the obvious choice if you're a manager who could care less about CF. John Burns -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MySpace - How they do

Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software Servers

2006-07-10 Thread Daniel Ganter
It's become rather obvious that, rather than leveraging the power of ColdFusion, the move to BlueDragon.NET stems from their desire to slowly migrate their codebase from CF to .NET, without having to rewrite everything at once. This is not to say that there aren't great things coming out of