On Monday 10 July 2006 17:18, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
The fact that .NET works better on Windows than Java/J2EE should be plainly
obvious to anyone.
Nope, sorry.
The only .NET apps I've seen suck, though they look more like Windows apps
than the top-notch Java apps I use (at least) weekly.
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From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tue Jul 11 09:15:05 2006
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
On Monday 10 July 2006 17:18, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
The fact that .NET works better on Windows than
Ah, from the Zaphod Beeblebrox school of computer management :-)
On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Yes, I know, Linux geek with Windows laptop. I keep threatening it with
formating everytime it goes wrong, and that normally fixes it ;-)
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From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tue Jul 11 00:18:48 2006
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Raymond Camden wrote:
You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe
right now
A debug tool and a FusionReactor / SeeFusion
should be in ColdFusion by default THIS is where more effort
needs to be made.
I second that sentiment. I've written a few blog posts discussing
debugging in CF. It used to be that CF's debugging was among the best
for web scripting languages,
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From: Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tue Jul 11 17:58:53 2006
Subject: RE: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
A debug tool and a FusionReactor / SeeFusion
should be in ColdFusion
Adobe is working on CF8 and you should use the /go/wish page to
send this suggestion to them.
I had a hard time finding the feature request page, so I thought I'd
post the link for anybody else that might want to bug Adobe about this
(adding debugging back in):
Sorry, when I said go wish, I really meant it.
www.adobe.com/go/wish
Much easier to remember. :) And I can attest - Adobe _does_ monitor
the results.
On 7/11/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adobe is working on CF8 and you should use the /go/wish page to
send this suggestion to
our website at http://www.reedexpo.com
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From: Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tue Jul 11 20:37:12 2006
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Sorry, when I said go wish, I really meant
Yeah, I just noticed a minute ago that they use those go/x shortcuts
when I was looking for the release notes for MX 7. I hadn't heard of
that before. :)
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:37 PM
Sorry, when I said go
Indeed, no one is questioning the monitoring, but Ray, I have
voted for this
feature (and no doubt lots have) ever since ColdFusion MX in
2003 after it
was somehow removed and not replaced with the upgrade from
5. At what
point does gowish become gofish and go into the deferred
it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Indeed, no one is questioning the monitoring, but Ray, I have
voted for this
feature (and no doubt lots have) ever since ColdFusion MX in
2003 after it
was somehow removed and not replaced with the upgrade from
5. At what
point does gowish become gofish
I would strongly disagree that there's no point in Bluedragon.NET except as a
stepping stone to get off of ColdFusion to go to .NET. Is CFMX just a stepping
stone to get off ColdFusion to go to JSP/Java/J2EE? Of course not.
Macromedia completely rewrote CFMX because Java/J2EE is a better
Vince Bonfanti wrote:
I would strongly disagree that there's no point in Bluedragon.NET except as
a stepping stone to get off of ColdFusion to go to .NET. Is CFMX just a
stepping stone to get off ColdFusion to go to JSP/Java/J2EE? Of course not.
Macromedia completely rewrote CFMX because
. It's the managers that are the problem
in all of this. Let's just eliminate them and we'll all be ok :-)
John Burns
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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp
Ok, let me get this straight. Someone just threw out the comment .NET is a
better platform than Java/J2EE on Windows and you agree with that when there
was no research given at all. The only example to back that statement up was
that a customer went from 12 servers to 4.
I realize that
Robert Everland III wrote:
... then I will continue to have my opinion that The only reason I can see
a company moving to BlueDragon .NET is to transition completely to .NET and
away from CF.
where is the research to support that OPINION?
If I wanted to move away from coldfusion to
Robert, you're flippin' on him and you're doing the same. What research or
examples that can be independantly verified do you have to say what you're
doing is best? As you did, he gave an opinion. Bottom line...an opinion.
CF does manage a lot of big sites, applications, etc. I'm behind CF 100%
That's why I stated it's an opinion. There is no way anyone could possibly
research every reason each company does what decision, but the few that have
been mentioned have been that they are moving to BlueDragon.NET to transition
completely to .NET, so as I said, it was my opinion.
Bob
: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
That's why I stated it's an opinion. There is no way anyone could possibly
research every reason each company does what decision, but the few that have
been mentioned have been that they are moving to BlueDragon.NET to
transition completely
than J2EE
-Mark
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From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Ok, let me get this straight. Someone just threw out the comment .NET is a
better
That's been the view here as well. The entire state of Florida is standardizing
on .NET and we are completely a ColdFusion shop. The only way for us to
transition to .NET is to start writing apps in .NET without losing the
functionality of our other apps.
I'm not saying New Atlanta doesn't
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
The internet is in a battle - J2EE and .NET and if you read between the
lines, .NET is winning. All this fancy crap (Flex) which Adobe is pumping
out of the stable instead of fixing issues and competing is only driving
more and more people to .NET.
Flex has
: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
The internet is in a battle - J2EE and .NET and if you read between the
lines, .NET is winning. All this fancy crap (Flex) which Adobe is pumping
out of the stable instead of fixing issues and competing
:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Ok, let me get this straight. Someone just threw out the comment .NET is a
better platform than Java/J2EE on Windows and you agree with that when
there was no research given at all. The only example to back
: 10 July 2006 20:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
I know when we looked at BD.NET it was/is that our CMS is in .NET and all
our plugins will be in .NET. It was potentially a way to keep old
ColdFusion code and also use .NET. The consensus however
but Flex 1 with Flash 8 left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths due to
it's price and how long it took to load. If they have taken care of those
issues then I think there will be a lot of sites taking advantage of it.
Well with Flex 2 officially out for a week or two, base price: Free.
I can hear from Vince all day long how much better .NET is
than Java on Windows, but if it were so horrible why are
there so many applications that use J2EE on Windows?
I suspect this has more to do with existing preferences, existing
investments, and inertia than anything else. People use
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From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Mon Jul 10 20:55:23 2006
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp
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Sent: Mon Jul 10 21:07:22 2006
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Well then what would be your argument as to what language to write your .net
apps in. You have like 20 odd to choose from, from VB to cobol. Bluedragon
just gives you CFML
You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe
right now? ;) 7.0.2. wasn't just Flex support, it also included
other fixes as well as rolling up hot fixes since the last release.
Anyway - I think Adobe is probably big enough to work on Flex and not
neglect CF. I wouldn't
Well put, lol. :-)
On 7/10/06, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe
right now? ;) 7.0.2. wasn't just Flex support, it also included
other fixes as well as rolling up hot fixes since the last release.
Anyway - I think
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Sent: Mon Jul 10 22:52:14 2006
Subject: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe
right now? ;) 7.0.2. wasn't just Flex support, it also included
other fixes as well as rolling up
Raymond Camden wrote:
You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe
right now? ;) 7.0.2. wasn't just Flex support, it also included
other fixes as well as rolling up hot fixes since the last release.
Anyway - I think Adobe is probably big enough to work on Flex and not
: Re: MySpace - How they do it: Staff, Software amp; Servers
Raymond Camden wrote:
You do know there is more than one product being worked on at Adobe
right now? ;) 7.0.2. wasn't just Flex support, it also included
other fixes as well as rolling up hot fixes since the last release.
Anyway - I
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