Novak wrote:
As long as we're using petty reasons I'll add my 2 cents. I can't
stand the fact that an advanced editor like DWMX doesn't allow me
to mark a COLUMN of text. Cheaper editors like UltraEdit allow this
and have done so for many, may versions.
Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
Just
I don't see how my editorial could have slanted anything from this
thread since the editorial was written and published long before this
thread started.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
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-Original Message-
From: Gyrus
Exactly how I feel. It's good for some things, not so good for others. I
recommend learning the ins and outs of it now, so you won't be playing
catch-up with the rest of us once it is a worthy alternative to cfstudio
for all daily use. I use CFStudio and DW... and will continue to do so
But ... the discussion is not over yet. If any of you will be at DevCon
(you all will be, right?) we'll be having an open forum Tuesday evening
where you'll be able to share your ideas, concerns, suggestions, etc.
pertaining to CF development environments - and you are encouraged to
share it
Now, in Dreamweaver, whenever you start it in Homesite style, there's a
narrow arrow there on the line between the leftmost panels and the working
editor window. If you click on that arrow, it 'hides' your left panels
groups and leaves you with your Insert menu and your properties panels
Dreamweaver to me lacks too many of the core functions
I fell in love with in Studio, like being able to run
a Find/Replace on a selection of text.
That bugs the heck out of me too. However, that brings up a noteworthy
point. (At least, I think it's noteworthy.)
A fellow Italian CF TMM
My biggest complaint is speed, I actually never dug deep into
it because it was too slow unless I closed out all the other
applications I am normally using when developing. I just
find it odd that in computers all with at least 512mb of ram
and all well over 600mhz in cpu, that I can't
Most developers I know don't use half the features of
ColdFusion Studio (I can't remember the last time I
click something in the tabs). So a move to DW is totally
nonsensical. Most developers, at least the good ones,
don't need or want designer tools.
These seem to be pretty broad
Hi Mosh,
Generally speaking it's just a force of habit and what I've gotten used to
over the years. Even in my old text based editor (called QEdit) I was able
to both insert and delete a column of text. [To me] it's like someone
coming into my office one day and telling me I can't use Ctrl-C,
Hi,
Realistically it only take 2-3 minutes to set up a site in DWMX... If it
takes you up to 5 minutes per site def you could still do it in 1 day.
Besides, why not just set up the sites as you need to over time? I had
the same feeling as most when I started using DWMX, but now, I use it
Hi,
I agree with you about the selection find/replace option, however; can
you provide an example of the horrendous code code you mentioned. I
have yet to see anything totally crazy in this area during my usage of
DWMX. It would be beneficial to know where DWMX fails in the coding
department.
- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't see how my editorial could have slanted anything from this
thread since the editorial was written and published long before this
thread started.
---
You talked about this thread; I mentioned this
I agree with you about the selection find/replace option, however; can
you provide an example of the horrendous code code you mentioned. I
have yet to see anything totally crazy in this area during my usage of
DWMX. It would be beneficial to know where DWMX fails in the coding
department.
Vern,
Well, I for one miss CFStudio, but I'm not going back. I think if
Macromedia took the time to listen to the communities they'll find ways to
make DWMX better.
I know, I for one miss the following:
-
* F9 (which is now F4 that only works if the insert
I would suggest that DW have a Coldfusion Studio mode. When you switch to that mode DW
becomes a dedicated Coldfusion IDE and then we can switch back to DW mode for
designers.
This way we have the best of both worlds. DW is a pretty good product but I think it's
trying to do too much.
Ben Forta
Not directly related to CF-Programming, but I recently wrote a long
configuration file for Jedit that I needed the ability to copy a column
of text and paste it into a column of text like:
ReplaceNoCase~~ReplaceNoCase(string,substring1,substring2,ALL);
Where I wrote all the left column
Ok, this will be my last comment on this thread since Michael asked that
it be moved. I don't subscribe to community, so I'll say my last piece.
HomeSite+ is NOT an upgrade to Studio nor is it a new version. Saying
that we still get it cheaper than Studio ticks me off because it's
actually more
OK, I'll accept that 8^).
I usually use macros to accomplish the same thing. Unfortunately, Studio (I
haven't tried DWMX, so I can't speak to it) doesn't provide support for
macros. You know... I'm off to the wish list to submit that as a feature
request.
--
Mosh Teitelbaum
evoch, LLC
Tel:
Last word on CF Studio, yes, Homesite's functionality
is very much similar to that of CF Studio. Probably
Macromedia's rationale for merging CF Studio and
Homesite into one was to have a broader user community
for this tool, however, I think a lot of us who love
CF Studio really miss it, and I
VI!?!?!?!??!!
ACK! GAG! SPIT! CHOKE! YACK!
;)
| -Original Message-
| From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob;cardinalweb.com]
| Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:05 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Anybody want to start a petition for CF Studio!
|
|
| There is an open source project that
Again, I don't think that MM is purposely forcing us out of Studio and
into DWMX. Look at this thread more closely, and you'll see that
Homesite+ is really the same thing (for all intents and purposes) and
Dreamweaver/Ultra-Dev certainly has some of the features you might want.
| -Original
Have you tried DW/Ultra-Dev?
| -Original Message-
| From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk;hotmail.com]
| Dreamweaver to me lacks too many of the core functions I fell
| in love with in Studio, like being able to run a Find/Replace
| on a selection of text. It's the lack of
Not sure I understand your response here Dave. Can you elaborate? Even
off-list would be fine. Just cuz I'm deciding if I want to get
Homesite+, I'm interested. I have Studio 5.. So I'm not sure there's a
reason to get Homesite+.
| -Original Message-
| From: Dave Watts
HomeSite+ is NOT an upgrade to Studio nor is it a new
version. Saying that we still get it cheaper than Studio
ticks me off because it's actually more of a downgrade
- it should be cheaper. UI customization features removed,
Query Builder removed and CFMX syntax didn't ship with
the
WOW! Really?? That's amazing.
So, let me make sure I understand (and I'm truly curious.. I'm not being
a smart-a$$ or facetious)...
Even with all the other features that DWMX has -- the ones that would
make you use it ...all day long... -- you have decided not to do so
because it doesn't
Sure.. But don't all ventures of decent magnitude?
Hey.. I'm not proposing a magic bullet. I'm just asking all of those
who *truly believe* that studio is an endangered beast, and who *truly*
don't want that to happen, to put their feelings to the test and decide
if they would *really* like to
LOL
| -Original Message-
| From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info;turnkey.to]
| Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:41 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Anybody want to start a petition for CF Studio!
|
|
| cfoutput#request.opinions.my[$.02]#/cfoutput
|
| HEY! Don't steal my numbering
Hm... pondering the possibility of publishing a calendar of current and
former Mistresses of the House of Fusion.
..ponder...
..ponder...
;)
Judith Dinowitz
Mistress of the House
~|
Archives:
Homesite+ does not do this either, but as i understand it, it's a bug and
not a 'feature' :)
which segues me into...can anybody offer any insight as to whether or not a
patch will be released any time in the near future? Like Tony, I really do
find this annoying (altho it's not stopping me
Nicely written Dave.
Thing is though, the problem mostly is that Macromedia isn't really
listening. They SHOULD care about we use as an editor. I'm glad you are a
proponent of vi. But the majority of ppl in this discussion group seem to
feel that cf studio is the best tool for building cf
Personally, I'd like to see everyone using vi - color coding is for
wusses! -Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
I love this quote! LOL!
~Todd
--
Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ |
Team Macromedia
People fear change. They'll get over it.
It's an just an IDE. Perhaps because I've used so many IDEs/editors in my
short career that I am immune. I like studio, but studio is not that cool -
and it's features are not rare.
It freezes, sometimes truncates files, and causes GPFs just like other
Now, in Dreamweaver, whenever you start it in Homesite
style, there's a
narrow arrow there on the line between the leftmost panels
and the working
editor window. If you click on that arrow, it 'hides' your left panels
groups and leaves you with your Insert menu and your properties panels
On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 11:59 US/Pacific, Rob Rohan wrote:
I miss Windows3.11's stability, should we start a petition to have
Microsoft start redeveloping it?
Microsoft cancelled WfWG??? I'm bummed... I loved that OS...
(c'mon, it's Friday!)
SOAP is not so much a means of transmitting
On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 10:12 US/Pacific, Costas Piliotis wrote:
Thing is though, the problem mostly is that Macromedia isn't really
listening. They SHOULD care about we use as an editor.
Yes, they really are listening. And they really care. Believe me. If
they weren't / didn't, then
I really wish we had done this... Selling HomeSite+ as ColdFusion
Studio MX at $499 alongside Dreamweaver MX at $399...
Yeah, but then we'd bitch and moan about it not including all the latest
CFMX toys that DWMX offers rather than just wishing we could have the
pre-Adobe-settlement CF Studio
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