RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Samuel R. Neff
I'd ask them if they have examples of sites they know are using warez software... :-) At 03:48 PM 1/8/2003, you wrote: At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server Hmm... how do you respond

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Besides all that, I've often felt that I'd rather have people steal my software than pay for my competitors. ;-) Even stolen software is free advertising. :) s. isaac dealey954-776-0046 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Stacy Young
While our company is quite anal about licensing issues (in that every instance is accounted for and all new software monitored/tracked) on a personal level my belief is that pirated software has its placesome may think that's a ridiculous statement but I truly think it can help drive market

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! [OT]

2003-01-09 Thread John Dowdell
At 2:05 PM 1/9/3, Haggerty, Mike wrote: That's not fair! Please reread. tx, jd ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription:

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Haggerty, Mike
at great expense, and has worth in the marketplace, what makes New Atlanta seem like a parasite? I'm sure there is a better word... M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread John Dowdell
At 10:41 AM 1/9/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:48 PM 1/8/3, John Dowdell wrote: At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server Hmm... how do you respond to

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Samuel R. Neff
At 05:05 PM 1/9/2003, you wrote: Despite the fact they are trying to undercut Macromedia's price, this product was built over time at great expense, and has worth in the marketplace, what makes New Atlanta seem like a parasite? I'm sure he was talking about software pirates, not New Atlanta,

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Hastings
instance is accounted for and all new software monitored/tracked) on a personal level my belief is that pirated software has its placesome may think that's a ridiculous statement but I truly think it can help drive market penetration and developer bases... well when cf4 finally hit the

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Dick Applebaum
the higher road instead of taking a pot shot at a competitor? Benjamin S. Rogers http://www.c4.net/ v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers
: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! At 10:41 AM 1/9/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:48 PM 1/8/3, John Dowdell wrote: At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! [OT]

2003-01-09 Thread Dave Watts
That's not fair! Please reread. Uh, I've reread it, and I don't understand your original statement either. At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server Hmm... how do you respond to

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Come on Vince until you get up to the full library of CFML then its worth paying for :-) -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Joshua Miller
-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the installation proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting comfortable with the Terminal

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Quoting Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server Well, as long as you can't buy 32 CPU Mac's ... Jochem -- Friends don't let friends use table-based layouts.

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote: On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the installation proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting comfortable with

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 03:31 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote: Quoting Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server Well, as long as you can't buy 32 CPU Mac's ... Well, rumor has it

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Vince Bonfanti
on OSX - Working !!! -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! I've got nothing against BlueDragon, but JRun for the extra $3300

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Vince Bonfanti
:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Come on Vince until you get up to the full library of CFML then its worth paying for :-) -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40 To: CF-Talk

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Timothy Heald
Flash Remoting? -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it. :-) Seriously, the basic

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Todd Rafferty
He said things that CF5/MX can't do -- MX can do flash remoting. ;) ~Todd At 10:11 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: Flash Remoting? -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Matt Liotta
: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Flash Remoting? -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Timothy Heald
Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with CF5/MX. Sorry should have been more specific. -Original Message- From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Matt Liotta
-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it. :-) Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have legacy CF 4.5 or 5.0 applications

CFMXJ2EE Suggestions - WAS (RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!)

2003-01-08 Thread Joshua Miller
Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote: On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: One thing I

RE: CFMXJ2EE Suggestions - WAS (RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!)

2003-01-08 Thread webguy
] * -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote: On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 07:07 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have legacy CF 4.5 or 5.0 applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 06:55 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Yes, BlueDragon allows you to create WAR files to deploy on any J2EE server, but you've got the licensing reversed. BlueDragon is free for development (like CFMX), so there's no cost for the development machines to create

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
Good points, all round. Thanx Dick! I've forwarded this to the product team (and cc'd Christian of course). On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:41 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote: On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific,

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:16 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly, I want that kind of control, I happen to like the command-line. However, many, many Mac users are not hardcore Unix users - not yet anyway. A lot of

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Vince Bonfanti
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 06:55 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: Yes, BlueDragon allows you to create WAR files to deploy on any J2EE server, but you've got the licensing reversed. BlueDragon is free for development (like

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Joshua Miller
PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:16 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly, I want that kind of control, I happen

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
Our of curiosity, can you give us a rough breakdown of which applications servers you're seeing people move to? Is it the free ones like Tomcat and JBoss or is it the commercial ones? I ask because I know you went to a lot of effort to support some of the commercial app servers (BD's WAR

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Matt Liotta
: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Our of curiosity, can you give us a rough breakdown of which applications servers you're seeing people move to? Is it the free ones like Tomcat and JBoss or is it the commercial ones? I

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Samuel R. Neff
At 02:55 PM 1/8/2003, you wrote: And look at the details -- let's say the price of the app you're selling is $10k. $10k plus $799 for CF5 Pro on the dual proc production server and the dual proc stage server is a nobrainer -- less that 15% of total. And it's easy to manage CF -- the IT team

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
JavaOne conference You listening MM?!? :) Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Samuel R. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Samuel R. Neff
Yes, good points, just one question. Isn't JBoss not a complete J2EE server--excludes servlets and jsp, thus requiring another option for that such as Tomcat but can be others? If that's the case, doesn't it make the JBoss port that much harder to create an support...

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
/Jakarta/Apache a while back). Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Samuel R. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Yes, good

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Matt Liotta
PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! JBoss is an EJB container and (usually) comes packaged with either Jetty or Tomcat for the web container. With either one, it fills out the whole stack of J2EE components. Sort

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:59 PM, John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: So anything that drops that J2EE price accelerates J2EE/CFMX hybrid apps. That's why I'd really love to see a JBoss version. Which version of JBoss? The JBoss site shows these versions: Packages  Size    Date

Re: CFMXJ2EE Suggestions - WAS (RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!)

2003-01-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 09:28 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: Another thing is that it's kind of annoying is that I have to manually start Jrun ... I know, I know, shellscript, but that's Greek a lot of Unix/OSX newbies. Starting Jrun/CFMX by default on bootup would be nice. Or at

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
. Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dick Applebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Wednesday, January 8, 2003

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
4:31 PM Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Those issues have been resolved and JBoss is on its way to being the very first J2EE 1.4 certified application server. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread John Dowdell
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server Hmm... how do you respond to people who point out that they can get if for free on a warez site...? jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Developer

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-08 Thread Rob Rohan
http://treebeard.sourceforge.net http://ruinworld.sourceforge.net -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: If you're interested, just use the default Apache installation, then download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download BlueDragon for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install them in order (Apache, Tomcat,

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Joshua Miller
] * -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: If you're interested, just use the default

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Vince Bonfanti
, 2003 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: If you're interested, just use the default Apache installation, then download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:39 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU FREE for development using the Developer Editions. CFMX for J2EE JRun Mac OS X edition is not currently a supported production deployment platform - only a development platform.

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Dick Applebaum
, 2003 1:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: If you're interested, just use the default Apache installation, then download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download BlueDragon

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Joshua Miller
] * -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:39 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU FREE

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Mike Chambers
are you deploying on OS X? or do you plan to? i would be interested in your input. thanks... mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
] - Original Message - From: Dick Applebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote: JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Joshua Miller
] * -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! are you deploying on OS X? or do you plan to? i would be interested

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Samuel Neff
-Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! I've got nothing against BlueDragon, but JRun for the extra $3300 gives me little things like EJB

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
Isn't there a Bluedragon product that creates WAR files for deployment on any J2EE server, whereby the only Bluedragon cost is for the development machine used to create the WAR? Perhaps I misread something... A WAR file is fine unless you're actually taking advantage of J2EE features

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2003-01-07 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the installation proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a lot of developers who don't

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-12 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote: I know this is probably nothing special, but getting an easy-to-install CFML engine on my Mac just made my day! I just posted the following to the BACFUG list - after Vince's presentation to the user group tonight. |||

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! I'm very interested... are there any J2EE servers available for the MAC? If not why did you choose the J2EE version? Thanks Kola

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Jon Hall
JBoss is written in Java, it should run on the Mac... Why not choose the J2EE version if he is running Tomcat? -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, December 11, 2002, 10:22:13 AM, you wrote: KO I'm very interested... KO are there any J2EE servers available for the MAC? If not why did

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Matt I'd like to play around with using EJBs and CFM. So this set up would seem to support that. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2002 15:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Two points. First

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Joshua Miller
] * -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! I'm very interested... are there any J2EE servers available for the MAC? If not why did you

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Dick Applebaum
PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2002 15:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Two points. First, JBoss is available for many platforms including OS X. Second, BlueDragon doesn't require a full J2EE server; it can run with just a servlet engine. Matt Liotta

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Joshua Miller
PROTECTED] * -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! JBoss is written in Java

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Adrian Lynch
Toys 'R' Us :O) -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2002 16:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Where can you get some EJB's to play with/ TIA Dick On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 07:52 AM, Kola Oyedeji

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Stephen Moretti
Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it this way just because it was all free and easy to download and install. I'm sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac that you could use something other than Tomcat. Since NONE of the Macromedia products work on Mac without a

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Samuel R. Neff
At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote: Tomcat wasn't certified, because it didn't quite meet all the J2EE requirements, but I believe it is fully J2EE certified/compliant etc. Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference implementation of J2EE...

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Stephen Moretti
At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote: Tomcat wasn't certified, because it didn't quite meet all the J2EE requirements, but I believe it is fully J2EE certified/compliant etc. Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference implementation of J2EE... whoops there was supposed

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Joshua Miller
: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it this way just because it was all free and easy to download and install. I'm sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac that you could use something other than Tomcat. Since NONE

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 10:03 AM, Samuel R. Neff wrote: Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference implementation of J2EE... If you go to Sun's site Tomcat is *Not* listed as a certified J2ee server. HTH Dick

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Stephen Moretti wrote: I noticed in one of your other emails that you're using Tomcat and Apache together... We tried running an app with Tomcat and Apache. Damn thing kept trashing the server. Turns out there is known issue with the

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread webguy
There seems to be confusion on what J2EE compliant means AFAIK Tomcat _IS_ a J2EE compliant _Servlet_ container (and JSP) Tomcat _IS_NOT_ a J2EE compliant _EJB_ container Thats why you can get Jboss with Tomcat or JBoss with JBossWeb... WG Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it this way just because it was all free and easy to download and install. I'm sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
, December 11, 2002 12:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it this way just because it was all free and easy to download and install. I'm sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac that you could

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote: Tomcat wasn't certified, because it didn't quite meet all the J2EE requirements, but I believe it is fully J2EE certified/compliant etc. Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 11:09 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: Tomcat is NOT a J2EE server; it is a servlet engine. Tomcat does not implement J2EE functionality like EJBs and JMS. Does this mean that CFMXJ2ee won't work on Tomcat? TIA Dick

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Dave Watts
Tomcat is not a support deployment server for CFMX for J2EE nor is it even a J2EE application server. The currently supported J2EE application servers are Macromedia JRun, Sun One, and IBM WebSphere. I would expect for Bea WebLogic to be supported soon and for JBoss to be supported in

RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Liotta
You think JBoss will be supported? Who'll pay for that integration effort? Yes, Macromedia of course. My understanding is that JBoss is quickly becoming the 3rd most deployed J2EE application server after BEA and IBM. Most people expect the deployments to substantially increase once JBoss is

Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!

2002-12-11 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
You are correct that JBoss relies generally on Tomcat for its servlet engine. -Matt The (admitedly few) JBoss developers I know are very into the Jetty servlet engine which is the other commonly bundled configuration of JBoss/web container. The past couple versions (2.4.8+) of JBoss have