to know how to user their
technology.
Marianne Daye
Programmer/Analyst
-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote
explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
-Original Message-
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
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I have to agree that CF is easier
you brought up here. Please explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
-Original Message-
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I have
.
Marianne Daye
Programmer/Analyst
-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote:
If he's willing to fork
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?
2. Again if you install the free version of CF
:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?
2. Again if you install
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it come
on the CD in the back of the Forta book?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Where
This is great! So do you have to use that in conjunction with CF Enterprise
as Robert mentioned?
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From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:21 AM
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CF equivalent to PWS is PWS
Or ya can download it :)
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it
come
on the CD
that ever visits it, lol
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
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Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF
Express?
Anthony Petruzzi
- let the trolling being
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it come
on the CD in the back of the Forta book?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:34
To: CF-Talk
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He is taliking about the Developers version...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:34 AM
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Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF
April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting, but CF5 is free as
a 1 connection developmental server that you can install at home and
use, but only allowed 1 connection, which would be yourself. Well, I
guess I
I don't know what it is you don't get, but as a part-time
telecommuter, I prefer not to have to rely on a remote server
while developing.
So do I. Fortunately, I can do that with CF just as easily as with ASP. Both
work through IIS, and CF can use other web servers as well, such as
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Pardon me! I hadn't heard of CF Enterprise. Hence the question Does CF
have an equivalent?. If I ever get to code in CF again I'll have to look
into that.
I don't know
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 16:49
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I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported. so if
you are not using the full
I would imagine you could do this if your employees licensed their own
copies, but then who knows.
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:41 AM
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I know about
-
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported. so
Yup I am.I meant to say CF Express!.good spot J - deliberate mistake
you understand!
-Original Message-
From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I think you're confusing your Enterprise
supported. so if
you are not using the full tag list then this may be your bag
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting
, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?
2. Again
: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Well there has always been a CF Enterprise, but MM listens to us on the
group and when we whined and said there wasn't anything free for us to
develop in they offered us a development version of CF Enterprise. It allows
you to use CF Enterprise in it's full
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 07:54 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
There are lots of free CGI engines, in addition to ASP, which isn't
really
free anyway - you have to buy Windows!
Neither are the 3rd-party ASP add-ons free... those that give ASP
capabilities that are built-in to CF!
Dick
: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
And you would think that Allaire/Macromedia would have something of the sort posted on
their website, but I could not find anything there
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto
ColdFusion is available in 2 flavours :
ColdFusion Server Professional
ColdFusion Server Enterprise
ColdFusion Enterprise is the largest/boldest of the family and has the
most features. There IS a 30 day trial download of this product from
the site which after 30 days expire it will turn
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things on
actually let me take the first crack at this. if noone minds
Can you say ADO
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from CF to ASP and get rid
Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from
Married
with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette
Rob
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from
Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who
wants
to move from
5.0 higher marks, since it has better performace.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
Forgot the link:
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2646052,00.html
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
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The only problem you
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
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and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Stevenson
: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from CF
with it and they are
currently using CF. Have they not seen the NEO faq? Or is this one of
those mandate thingys?
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get
: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say
-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough.
Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever!
Nothing is better than perl.
My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl
Message -
From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not
staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have
Here is a good URL that I came across:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/46/index1a.html?tw=programming
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Gasp
: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Stevenson
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc
x110
503.221.9865
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that,
we use PHP here as well, my
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough.
Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever!
Nothing is better than perl.
My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (and real
, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of them, I
can tell you that life does not have to be that hard. Does he have specific
ASP is better arguments? At our MMUG meeting yesterday
Mandate, that and a disillusioned view of ASP
Rob
-Original Message-
From: Greg Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
here is an article from pcmagazine comparing a slew of web
rid of CF, which I do not want to do at
all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not
like it.
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let
No arguments really, just close minded
-Original Message-
From: Neil Giarratana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of
them, I
have a lot to learn, at least he bought me some books,
lol
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Have you pointed out the rapid development nature of CF
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Honestly,
If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain? I'm
assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools that
will all need to be translated into ASP
Remeber, coders survive on being able to code. Managers survive on
making good business decisions. You may well see a new manager in the
not so distant future.
Yep, and then he'll be able to learn yet another language, thus broadening
his skill set, and increasing his market worth. :)
I
If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training. Grab hold, hang on, and
take what you can learn.
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Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject
11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Stevenson
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote:
If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training. Grab hold, hang on, and
take what you can learn.
A cold hearted approach (but I think wise) would be to get the training
paid for, and then move to a company that is more reasonable.
T
There is also X-Platorm issues with ASP. Also, with MM and Allaire
merging and with Flash MX etc.. jeez we have an exciting time ahead.
N
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