Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
I have not yet re-created my HS snippets in DW8. I know that I can't easily create the same sort of snippets as I could in HS. DW8 requires some extra steps that HS+'s snippet variables made easy-to-use. This DW's extension let you import HS's snippets in DW:

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
My dw doesnt code rewrite, like others have said, you can control that or turn it off. Even if you turn it off, there is no way you can be 100% sure that DW will never rewrite your code. DW is getting better at leaving your code alone after each release, still you can't blindly trust it.

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? My dw doesnt code rewrite, like others have said, you can control that or turn it off. Even if you turn it off, there is no way you can be 100% sure that DW will never rewrite your code. DW is getting better at leaving your code alone after

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
I have not run into any issues where DW rewrites my code. Of course, I only use the code view. I thought DW would rewrite your code only if you used the design view. Unfortunately that's a very common, false, assumption. Even if you stick with code view all the time, DW may rewrite the code

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Andy Matthews
. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I'm getting to this thread late, but I will give my

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Ferguson
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? My dw doesnt code rewrite, like others have said, you can control that or turn it off. Even if you turn it off, there is no way you can be 100% sure that DW will never

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Andy Matthews
Message- From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? My dw doesnt code rewrite, like others have said, you can control that or turn it off. Even if you turn it off, there is no way you can

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Drew
thought DW would rewrite your code only if you used the design view. M!ke -Original Message- From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? My dw doesnt code rewrite, like

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Andy Matthews
-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I tried and tried and tried not to get sucked into this thread, but it's useless! I use Homesite+. I love CFEclipse, but I just *CAN'T* get away from Homesite+. I've got it, from years of using it, set up so that it's so efficient for me to do

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I have not run into any issues where DW rewrites my code. Of course, I only use the code view. I thought DW would rewrite your code only if you used the design view

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
Also a good post. Editplus makes it even easier than what you've got Ken. It comes with autocomplete files. I type: cfquery and I get a full cfquery block. I type SELECT and I get a full SELECT statement. I do the same thing with table , cfloop and more. It's a HGUE timesaver and I hope

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
, October 20, 2005 8:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I tried and tried and tried not to get sucked into this thread, but it's useless! I use Homesite+. I love CFEclipse, but I just *CAN'T* get away from Homesite+. I've got it, from years of using it, set up so

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Andy Matthews
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? Also a good post. Editplus makes it even easier than what you've got Ken. It comes with autocomplete files. I type: cfquery and I get a full cfquery block. I type SELECT and I get

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
True, but the autocomplete file and syntax files for Coldfusion are a free download from Editplus.com. Sorry, my post wasn't about EditPlus, I was answering to your question about DW and tried to tell you that DW, out of the box, doesn't offer the same kind of funtionality.

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Ferguson
REALLY, I wasn't aware? I just opened up CFE again to check this out and was hit by one more thing I hate. I clicked new and it starts in with the damned questions: pick a wizard, new what - file, where would you like it... I DON'T want it anywhere except open in front of me. LEAVE ME

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Dawson, Michael
: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? Yep. I don't even like it when DW puts in extra tabs or spaces. And it's REALLY irritating when it does extra carriage returns after TD and TR tags. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Drew
I know.. I hated it as well, and tried to make it (even thought it doesnt look it) fast by the fact that when you do new cf file all you physically have to do is enter the file name and bash on the return key... I am sorry.. its a bug that is on my list of to-do's to get this working consistently

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Ferguson
Don't get me wrong, once I'm in CFE, I really like it a lot. I'm just wondering though, why does it need to put a file somewhere at all? Can't it wait until I'm ready to save a file? When I hit new, I just want a new file to appear in the IDE. Hell, I may not even have any idea at all where

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't get me wrong, once I'm in CFE, I really like it a lot. I'm just wondering though, why does it need to put a file somewhere at all? Or for that matter, why they didn't add word wrapping to the editor when

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread John Wilker
I've never had DW rewrite a line of code I didn't tell it to. Not once. On 10/20/05, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dw doesnt code rewrite, like others have said, you can control that or turn it off. Even if you turn it off, there is no way you can be 100% sure that DW will

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Calvin Ward
Well, that's kind of really looking too far back, I'd say -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Calvin Ward
, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I've never had DW rewrite a line of code I didn't tell it to. Not once. On 10/20/05, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dw doesnt code rewrite, like others have said, you can control that or turn it off. Even if you turn it off, there is no way you can be 100

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Ferguson
Well, with that I have no problem -- word wrap is very annoying to me and I don't understand what people like about it. Personally, the word wrapping features in a given editor feel to me like the IDE is getting in my way. If I had word wrap turned on, you could count the seconds until you'd

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Drew
WE had a whole debate about wordwrapping, and basically boilded down to either you can have a) word wrapping (decided not needed and if you did, your code was pants) or b) Code folding the vote went for code folding Sorry.. democracy at work peoples MD On 20/10/05, Damien McKenna [EMAIL

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
I've never had DW rewrite a line of code I didn't tell it to. Not once. I am glad you were so lucky :-) I've seen quite a good amount of code corruption cases in DW. Things started getting significantly better with DW 2004 and, so far, DW 8 never corrupted any of my files. But I know for sure

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
Try opening any frameset file with a variable in the frame source attributes. Now for real fun, figure out how to get it to stop doing that. There is no way :-))) BTW Nowadays I rarely use frames and opening frameset files in Homesite is such a second nature that I forgot this one. Thanks

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread John Wilker
I remember back in the day I think it was v3, kept removing pound signs on me. Drove me batty until I figured out what it was doing LOL. I'll start keeping an eye open to make sure it behaves. On 10/20/05, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never had DW rewrite a line of code I didn't

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Massimo Foti
I remember back in the day I think it was v3, kept removing pound signs on me. Drove me batty until I figured out what it was doing LOL. Those were really dark ages :-) I'll start keeping an eye open to make sure it behaves. As soon as you have a decent source control set-up you can feel

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never had DW rewrite a line of code I didn't tell it to. Not once. If you do a search/replace and have the ignore whitespace option selected it will re-adjust the lines affected by the search-replace. -- Damien

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, with that I have no problem -- word wrap is very annoying to me and I don't understand what people like about it. Personally, I've had Eclipse slow to a *crawl* when editing long-ish lines, so word wrapping

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WE had a whole debate about wordwrapping, and basically boilded down to either you can have a) word wrapping (decided not needed and if you did, your code was pants) or b) Code folding Why was it an either-or debate?

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Drew
I think I was shortening a LONG discussion had over at the cfeclipse mailing list. I am sure DW has everything and the kitchen sink, but why did they way what, 4 major versions before adding code folding? we are in version 1.2 and wordwrap hasnt been an OVERLY asked feature. I am sure you need

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-20 Thread Andy Matthews
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? WE had a whole debate about wordwrapping, and basically boilded down to either you can have a) word wrapping (decided not needed and if you did, your code was pants) or b) Code

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Massimo Foti
My company just purchased Studio 8 for all of us and I'm seriously considering giving Dreamweaver 8 a try (code use only), but I just don't know if I can afford the time it would take for me to get used to it. Dreamweaver 8 offers some nice improvements in code view, still, in my opinion, if

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Fuqua
Andy, do you read posts from this list often? Dreamweaver is not well regarded on this list. It is like going to an Apple convention, standing up and asking which version of windows you should use. Seriously, if you are going to use dreamweaver for coding only, there really isn't that much of a

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Andy Matthews
x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? Andy, do you read posts from this list often? Dreamweaver is not well regarded

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread John Wilker
What Mark said, I like DW. Doesn't hog too much of my resources, runs well. 8 has only crashed once since install. I have CFEclipse too, but have gotten used to some of the niceties of DW. I use Eclipse from time to time to give it a whirl and stay up to date on it, but day to day, I still use

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread John Wilker
--//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? Andy, do you read posts from this list often? Dreamweaver is not well regarded on this list. It is like

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Fuqua
One more thought, then its back to work- FLEX 2.0The possibilities of flex builder and the CF to Flex bridge really excite me in a back-of-the-mind-gitty sort of way. I don't have time to investigate now...but I sure intend to. As I am sure everyone knows already, flexbuilder is an

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Andy Matthews
] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? One more thought, then its back to work- FLEX 2.0The possibilities of flex builder and the CF to Flex bridge really excite me in a back-of-the-mind-gitty sort of way. I don't have

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread John Wilker
, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? One more thought, then its back to work- FLEX

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Munson, Jacob
, October 19, 2005 9:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I hear that Flex builder is built on Eclipse but isn't a plug in for eclipse like I originally thought. From what I've been told by my friends at MAX it's a stand alone Eclipse build. You can then add

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Drew
: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? One more thought, then its back to work- FLEX 2.0 The possibilities of flex builder and the CF to Flex bridge really excite me in a back-of-the-mind-gitty sort of way. I don't have time to investigate now...but I sure intend to. As I am sure everyone

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread John Wilker
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Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Drew
oriented by default for my taste), but I use Eclipse for more than just CF. I have a few non-CF plugins as well. -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Spike
] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? One more thought, then its back to work

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Mark Drew
, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? I hear that Flex builder is built on Eclipse but isn't a plug in for eclipse like I originally thought. From what I've been told by my friends at MAX it's a stand alone Eclipse build. You can then add CFeclipse to it. Once out of Beta I'll probably be all

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I hear that Flex builder is built on Eclipse but isn't a plug in for eclipse like I originally thought. From what I've been told by my friends at MAX it's a stand alone Eclipse build. Try downloading the installer

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Damien McKenna
Try downloading the installer files, copying the macromedia-specific files from the installation directory and putting them in the relevant directories in a bare eclipse install, then starting the bare install with eclipse -clean. Should work, in theory anyway. ... Or just use the Eclipse

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
The possibilities of flex builder and the CF to Flex bridge really excite me Excuse my ignorance, but what does Flex Builder build? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to

Re: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread dave
To me the best parts of dw are css parts. Split view is indespensible for doing css layouts the validation is great especially with dw8. But cfeclipse has kick ass cfc support but until it has a split view it's not the main ide for someone like me who does the whole shabang and just the cfm

RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse?

2005-10-19 Thread Dawson, Michael
: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dreamweaver, Homesite+ 5.5, Eclipse? Mark... I personally don't care for Dreamweaver either. But I'm willing to try something new if it will save me time. One thing that's to be considered is it's code rewriting habits. Even if it saves