I don't agree that they wouldn't benefit from merging, or
ActionScript gaining some core CFML functionality.
Given that ActionScript (being essentially a variation on JavaScript) relies
on a Flash-specific object model with objects such as movie clips, etc, what
exactly would it mean to merge
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 May 2001 14:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
I don't agree that they wouldn't benefit from merging, or
ActionScript gaining some core CFML functionality
But, having said that, some sort of CF functionality to write
configs or variables to Flash *before* the movie is served (ie
server-side) would be very nice, which I think is what I was
trying to get at in my own ill-communicated way.
It seems a little backwards to write data to
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Sent: 23 May 2001 15:47
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aha! of course, its as clear as day now.
It was specifically those movies which required dynamic content but did not
require multiple trips to server and back that I was concerned about
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From: Zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 May 2001 16:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon Release is Final Available
Rich Wild wrote:
/me is especially looking forward to hybrid between
2001 22:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
At 8:59 AM 5/15/1, Steve Drucker wrote:
Once we removed XML as a transport mechanism and started relying
on loadvariables, the average object shrank in byte-size by over
50% and load times, in one particular case
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At 8:59 AM 5/15/1, Steve Drucker wrote:
Once we
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From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 May 2001 07:56
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Subject: RE: Harpoon
I dont suppose anyone had the beta .zip file anywhere ?
I'd like to have a look at the datagrid that they left out !
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From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
I dont suppose anyone had the beta .zip file anywhere ?
I'd like to have a look
up my claims.
Thanks,
Evan
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
Using WDDX at this time, regrettably, is NOT a best practice.
Is this because of some
CEO
Fig Leaf Software
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From: Evan Lavidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
Dave,
Can you point me to any documentation/info from Macromedia or Figleaf which
shows this? I'm
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
Well, here's some anecdotal evidence --
Once we removed XML as a transport mechanism and started relying on
loadvariables, the average object shrank in byte-size by over 50% and load
No. It's an inherent limitation.
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|Is there any way to make the top level of the horizontal tool
|bar scroll?
|I can only
Why?
Rich
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From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
No. It's an inherent limitation.
|-Original Message-
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Well, you could adjust the font size down to accommodate more options as
well...
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From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
No. It's an inherent limitation
-level menu is limited by the width and font
attribute values.
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|From: ibtoad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:31 PM
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|Why?
|Rich
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Not really because the text labels do not fill the space alocated anyway.
The lables are centered with plenty of space around them.
Rich
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From: Steve Drucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release
At 8:59 AM 5/15/1, Steve Drucker wrote:
Once we removed XML as a transport mechanism and started relying
on loadvariables, the average object shrank in byte-size by over
50% and load times, in one particular case (cascading menu), went
from 8 seconds to under 2 seconds.
An URL-encoded data
I seem to remember that in some of the early betas for Harpoon there was
an actionscript file for reading WDDX packets in Flash. Did this disappear?
Or did it simply become subsumed into some of the FLA's. If the latter is
true, could someone point me to the right place to find it? If it's
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I seem to remember that in some of the early betas for Harpoon there was
an actionscript file for reading WDDX packets in Flash. Did this disappear?
Or did it simply become subsumed
Steve Drucker wrote:
Using WDDX at this time, regrettably, is NOT a best practice.
Is this because of some problem with Flash?
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At 9:29 AM 5/14/1, Evan Lavidor wrote:
I seem to remember that in some of the early betas for Harpoon
there was an actionscript file for reading WDDX packets in Flash.
Did this disappear?
Although the actual release version of the Macromedia Flash Component Kit
for ColdFusion may not rely on
I've trying to configure Harpoon for the last 2 hours... I just can't figure
out the settings for paths... even tried using absolute mappings. Still
getting 404s after a page half-loads. Help!!!
Thanks
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From: Steve Drucker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's gone...the Harpoon
Out of curiosity, how is data transferred now? Is it still xml?
jon
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From: Steve Drucker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: Harpoon Release is Final Available
It's gone...the Harpoon documentation
Using WDDX at this time, regrettably, is NOT a best practice.
Is this because of some problem with Flash?
Yes. The current version of Flash doesn't handle XML as efficiently as raw
string data.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202)
Sorry for the delay in replying to your question.
Not a problem :-)
It will be free.
Top ! Is there a rough release date yet ?
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Subject: RE: Harpoon The Current Status COST
Sorry for the delay in replying to your question.
Not a problem :-)
It will be free.
Top ! Is there a rough release date yet ?
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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Harpoon The Current Status COST
The latest I am aware of is a release time frame of Spring.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Macromedia Consulting
Tel 562.243.6255
Fax
Will this be available generally (as an add-on to CF4.5) or will
this only be included in CF5?
While I don't speak for Macromedia, there's nothing that would stop anyone
from using it with CF 4.x.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202)
Will it only be included as part of CF or possibly bundled with Flash?
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 April 2001 16:14
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Subject: RE: Harpoon The Current Status COST
Is it gonna be free, or will some nominal charge apply ?
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Is it gonna be free, or will some nominal charge apply ?
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Sam from DevCenter and Tag Area ata llaire answered this question at
http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/mailarch/csclub/2001/msg00081.html
other links..
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=19949
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0011/06.harpoon.shtml
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funny you should say that, because Harpoon beta 4 came out this morning.
sign up at beta.allaire.com
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From: Brian Thornton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 April 2001 10:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject:Re: Harpoon
Sam from DevCenter and Tag Area ata llaire answered this question at
http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/mailarch/csclub/2001/msg00081.html
other links..
http://www.allaire.com
by an authorised representative of e-mango.com ltd.
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-Original Message-
From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 April 2001 10:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon
The Harpoon Beta program has been removed and I can only
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:30 AM
Subject: RE: Harpoon
The Harpoon Beta program has been removed and I can only find references
to Harpoon within Allaire news articles (announcing the co-operation
between Macromedia and Allaire).
I don't know what
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From: "Adam Reynolds" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:30 AM
Subject: RE: Harpoon
The Harpoon Beta program has been removed and I can only find references
to Harpoon within Allaire news articles (announcing the co-operatio
Well, I was signed up for 3, and didnt hear anything.
If you sign up now, there is no mention of Harpoon on the site...
if you were signed up for the Beta's up through Beta
3, you'll be
sent info about getting Beta 4, which led me to believe that
you might not
be able to sign up at this
Still can't see it on the beta site.
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From: Marc Garrett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 April 2001 11:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject:Re: Harpoon
I downloaded Harpoon beta 4 last night. It's still on the beta site. Maybe
you're confused because the name
Maybe they dynamically build that beta page based on your login. For me, the
Harpoon info is on the lower lefthand side.
Regards,
Marc Garrett
Still can't see it on the beta site.
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I don't have it either. Only CF 5 and JRun and there for me.
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-Original Message-
From: Marc Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon
Maybe they dynamically build that beta page based on your login. For me
: Harpoon
I don't have it either. Only CF 5 and JRun and there for me.
Rich
-Original Message-
From: Marc Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon
Maybe they dynamically build that beta page based on your login. For me
-Talk
Subject:RE: Harpoon
The Harpoon Beta program has been removed and I can only find
references
to Harpoon within Allaire news articles (announcing the co-operation
between Macromedia and Allaire).
no, really, it is there - I just checked.
Try mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] for info
sday, April 19, 2001 6:48 AM
Subject: RE: Harpoon
Still can't see it on the beta site.
-Original Message-
From: Marc Garrett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 April 2001 11:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon
I downloaded Harpoon beta 4 last night. It's still on the beta site. Ma
)
www.figleaf.com
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From: Brad Hinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon
You have to be signed up as a Harpoon beta tester for it show up under your
log-in. You can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask
no, it doesn't matter. some people that were signed up for harpoon and had
access to beta 3 don't have access to the latest beta 4.
-Original Message-
From: Brad Hinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon
You have
9:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon
I've emailed them. How many servers do they use? Have they updated one of
them and not the rest?
Is that why beta is only showing CF and Jrun?
Anyway I'll find out soon enough.
Adam
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From: Rich Wild [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 April 2001 15:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon
that's not necessarily true actually. I'm a harpoon beta
tester
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From: JoshMEagle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Harpoon
I thought the BETA program ended for Harpoon last week.
Joshua Miller
Web Development
Eagle Technologies Group
Technology Solutions for
You can also sign-up yourself at http://beta.allaire.com/harpoon/
-S
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From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: harpoon
There are example applications included with the Beta. If you
There are example applications included with the Beta. If you are not
already on the beta, send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED], asking to
participate. They will give you a login, which you can then use to download
the Beta, including the samples.
Benjamin S. Rogers
Web Developer, c4.net
Voice:
Yes
-Original Message-
From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: harpoon beta
did anyone try out the Harpoon beta yet?
(and, which one 2? or 2_250 ? )
ATTN HouseofFussion:
Please start a Harpoon
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: harpoon beta
Yes
-Original Message-
From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: harpoon beta
did anyone try out the Harpoon beta yet?
(and, which one 2? or 2_250
d. You can't beat the price -
FREE!
Anybody, going to CFSouth will probably see a similar presentation.
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From: "Milks, Jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: H
Got it from allaire's beta site, a little while back
"Duane Boudreau" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Has anyone here been able to get to the Harpoon beta yet?
Thx,
Duane Boudreau, CTO
CFExperts
603.620.8797
What is harpoon anyway?
-Original Message-
From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Harpoon Beta
Has anyone here been able to get to the Harpoon beta yet?
Thx,
Duane Boudreau, CTO
CFExperts
603.620.8797
When was it made available? I checked in last night and nothing. Maybe I
need to contact the beta team again.
Duane
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From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Harpoon Beta
Got it from allaire's beta site
. You can't beat the price - FREE!
Anybody, going to CFSouth will probably see a similar presentation.
- Original Message -
From: "Milks, Jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: Harpoon Beta
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