Duh Verity I forgot about that. But still wouldnt the back
end of sql be alot faster than cf verity?
No, there's no reason for it to be that way. The K2 server is pretty fast.
In addition, you can offload K2 search functionality onto a separate machine
from your web and database servers.
Duh Verity I forgot about that. But still wouldnt the back
end of sql be alot faster than cf verity?
No, there's no reason for it to be that way. The K2 server is pretty fast.
In addition, you can offload K2 search functionality onto a separate
machine
from your web and database servers.
That it was I thought but me not ever using verity before I was not sure.
Josh
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From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Verity (was: [admin] List status)
Duh Verity I forgot about
Duh Verity I forgot about that. But still wouldnt the back
end of sql be alot faster than cf verity?
No, there's no reason for it to be that way. The K2 server
is pretty fast. In addition, you can offload K2 search
functionality onto a separate machine from your web and
no caching. can't join back to the indexed table. can't
combine with other
WHERE clause stuff. sql server text indexing beats the pants
socks off of verity.
We use both in different situations
Verity has the text branching, so if you enter a word, it'll include
plural, ing and such like
As an aside - Could you not use Q of a Q to cache a verify search (and not
have to fool with persistant variables)?
-mk
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From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity (was: [admin] List
Well, I know you like the SQL Server text indexing quite a bit, but in
more than just having thai btw.
fairness, these aren't serious issues in most of the search functionality
I've seen. You're free to cache what you like, after it comes back from
*after* on the cf box.
to that of SQL
One of the ideas I had was to take all the messages in a single thread and write them
out to a flat file. That flat file would be indexed in verity and a search would call
it up. A new message to the thread would cause the file to be rewritten. This would
save a lot of reads from the DB when
2 queries vs 1. i win.
Only if your one query is faster than my two!
whether you can do in SQL Server's text indexing, like
spidering sites and indexing filesystem contents (although
I suspect that if one knew enough ...
um i win again (just call me cash money ;-)
SELECT
2 queries vs 1. i win.
Only if your one query is faster than my two!
logic dictates that one of your query's is verity based
slower. verity performance is flat, sql server's benefit
from caching, they (they as in the same ones repeated)
get faster.
Well, that only works if you store the
2 queries vs 1. i win.
Only if your one query is faster than my two!
logic dictates that one of your query's is verity based
slower. verity performance is flat, sql server's benefit
from caching, they (they as in the same ones repeated)
get faster.
Gee, Cash Money! You don't give
Gee, Cash Money! You don't give up easily! Are you sure that shouldn't be
Cache Money?
ahem. neither does 'belt-em first' dave washington watts
Seriously, though, I wouldn't be surprised if Verity K2 does provide some
no idea. i need thai text indexing verity's never thrilled me so i've
ahem. neither does 'belt-em first' dave washington watts
I never belt 'em first!
i need thai text indexing verity's never thrilled
me so i've never taken the next step. i have benchmarked
verity 97(?) sql server 7 though.
Well, that explains some of this. Verity 97 might have been
I never belt 'em first!
belt-way?
in '97. K2 is a whole new engine. It even supports Thai, according to the
not the bits that come w/cf5 or neo.
Verity docs (if you ever decide to use Verity, you'd better test this
yourself, though; don't take my word for it).
already tried.
Ouch. I
already tried.
With K2, or the default VDK? You actually have to go out of your way a bit
to use K2 under CF 5. Of course, it's still a subset of the full K2 product,
so I wouldn't be surprised if you were shortchanged yet again.
ditto for verity, or has that changed?
I wouldn't install it
With K2, or the default VDK? You actually have to go out of your way a bit
to use K2 under CF 5. Of course, it's still a subset of the full K2
product,
so I wouldn't be surprised if you were shortchanged yet again.
no, mm (kunmar if i recall) told me 'too bad, so sad' ;-) most likely an
sp
that academic community seems to like ms.
MS has nice academic pricing!
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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that academic community seems to like ms.
MS has nice academic pricing!
indeed. they also have butt kicking text indexing technology...i win again?
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