Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-17 Thread Richard Cooper
I've a system that relies quite heavily on CGI.SERVER_NAME. Is there a more robust an alternative to this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-17 Thread Rob Wilkerson
On 10/17/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've a system that relies quite heavily on CGI.SERVER_NAME. Is there a more robust an alternative to this? I prefer to use CGI.HTTP_HOST. In Apache - at least with 1.3 a few years ago - CGI.SERVER_NAME returned the value in the ServerName

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matt Williams wrote: On 10/15/06, Claude Schneegans wrote: The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if it wants to. If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. How rude of the browser! Is this a setting the user can control? If the user knows

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Snake
-Talk Subject: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: a href=#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#Cancel/a Real issue here is to go back one page, but to force

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Richard Cooper
Does the browser tend to do this with other CGI variables or is it mainly just the referer one? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers,

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Snake
Any variable that is considered personal information and can be used for tracking purposes may not be sent. Russ -Original Message- From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2006 10:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer Does the browser tend

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/16/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any variable that is considered personal information and can be used for tracking purposes may not be sent. Russ But can anybody explain why the variable shows in Firefox, but not IE? This makes me think there's an IE setting - maybe the security or

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Dave Watts
But can anybody explain why the variable shows in Firefox, but not IE? This makes me think there's an IE setting - maybe the security or privacy level. I'll play around with those. There may well be a setting that you could change, that would change this specific instance of behavior. But in

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Doug Bezona
- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer On 10/16/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any variable that is considered personal information and can be used for tracking purposes may

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/16/06, Doug Bezona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly though, the conclusion you probably should be coming to here is not to depend on the referrer info being present for anything meaningful, since there are a lot of things a potential user could have installed, or ways a browser might be

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Doug Bezona
So the question at hand should be how can you make a link that will go back one page (that page being unknown) and refresh it By unknown, do you mean literally any arbitrary page on the internet, or an arbitrary page from within your site/application? If it's the former, there probably isn't a

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Matt Williams
By unknown I simply meant that it could be one of several possible pages within the site. So yes, all potential pages are internal and we do have control over those. A littel more detail... The initial page has a drop down select box. In the on change of that select I redirect to another page

Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Williams
On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: a href=#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#Cancel/a Real issue here is to go back one page, but to force that page to reload. So a simple

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Claude Schneegans
cgi.http_referer The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if it wants to. If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Quackenbush
To: CF-Talk Subject: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: a href=#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#Cancel/a Real issue here is to go back one page

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/15/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cgi.http_referer The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if it wants to. If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. How rude of the browser! Is this a setting the user can control

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Dave Watts
The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if it wants to. If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. How rude of the browser! Is this a setting the user can control? Not directly from within a standard browser, although there are lots of

RE: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Doug Bezona
cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: 10/15/06 6:46 PM Subject: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: a href=#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#Cancel/a Real

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Claude Schneegans
How rude of the browser! Also note that is there is no referrer, the browser will not tell there is one ;-) The referrer is the page you clicked to get into the next page. If the user gets directly to your page, by typing the address or by bookmark, there is no referrer. Is this a setting

Re: Apache, IE cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/15/06, Doug Bezona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you by any chance running a security suite such as Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security or the like? Nope. Pretty straightforward here. Matt Q. said: The http_referer will only exist if the page load is a result of a link click or a form

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
You could try (on the calling page) writing a session variable for the current page, then call that variable instead of cgi.http_referrer -Original Message- From: Coldfusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Why

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Andy Matthews
Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Calling page is: cflocation url=test_ref.cfm Still not working. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Andy Matthews
, 2006 5:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER You could try (on the calling page) writing a session variable for the current page, then call that variable instead of cgi.http_referrer -Original Message- From: Coldfusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Loathe
: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER But what if he doesn't have control over the calling page? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc

cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Colman
I am trying to get this to work, and the simple test case is: cfif cgi.HTTP_REFERER IS NOT cgi variable exists cfelse cgi variable does not exist /cfif cfoutput#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#/cfoutput However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. Any comments appreciated

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Munson, Jacob
test case is: cfif cgi.HTTP_REFERER IS NOT cgi variable exists cfelse cgi variable does not exist /cfif cfoutput#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#/cfoutput However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. Any comments appreciated. This transmission may contain

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
cfif cgi.HTTP_REFERER IS NOT cgi variable exists cfelse cgi variable does not exist /cfif cfoutput#CGI.HTTP_REFERER#/cfoutput However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. Any comments appreciated. Rick Colman Just to eliminate any other kind of white space

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
what is the result of the conditional? the variable will always exist. there should (i believe) always be a key in the CGI scope (struct) for cgi.http_referer. However, the value of that key could be an empty string (if the user bookmarked the page, typed it in manually, etc). On 3/29/06

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
This is kind of like asking to make sure your computer is plugged in (so you've probably already checked this) but it will be empty if you didn't actually have a referrer (as in, you browse directly to the page). On 3/29/06 10:38 PM, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cfif cgi.HTTP_REFERER

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
cfif IsDefined(CGI.HTTP_REFERER) checks for it's existence Actually, I'm pretty sure that IsDefined always returns true for any CGI variable, whether it actually exists or not. For example, this would return true: cfif IsDefined(CGI.I_MADE_THIS_UP) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
cfif IsDefined(CGI.HTTP_REFERER) checks for it's existence Actually, I'm pretty sure that IsDefined always returns true for any CGI variable, whether it actually exists or not. For example, this would return true: cfif IsDefined(CGI.I_MADE_THIS_UP) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software WTF

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ken Ferguson
) always be a key in the CGI scope (struct) for cgi.http_referer. However, the value of that key could be an empty string (if the user bookmarked the page, typed it in manually, etc). On 3/29/06, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get this to work, and the simple test

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the logic behind that little gem? ;-) I can only speculate, but the set of CGI variables is dependent on the browser and the server, so my presumption is that they did this to reduce errors when checking CGI variables. I think it's kind

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
cfif IsDefined(CGI.I_MADE_THIS_UP) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the logic behind that little gem? ;-) Thanks CGI is a bit of a bastard because different web server software will return deferent lists. This can be confounded

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks DaveI'm not sure I'd use the word sillybut I hear ya ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Also you have to be going to that page from another page for it to have a value... Eric snipped ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236505 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Colman
Calling page is: cflocation url=test_ref.cfm Still not working. -Original Message- From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER This is kind of like asking to make sure your computer is plugged

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
Calling page is: cflocation url=test_ref.cfm Still not working. I don't think that the Referer header is passed when you redirect using CFLOCATION. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Coldfusion
, March 29, 2006 8:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Calling page is: cflocation url=test_ref.cfm Still not working. I don't think that the Referer header is passed when you redirect using CFLOCATION. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software

Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
I'm trying to track the number of hits from a site that a client has an ad on. I have his site stats in a db, but found not hits from that particular http_referer, although I know there should be. I think I tracked the problem to the fact that the ad opens a new browser window and that

Re: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Srinivasa Teja Palla
Not sure if I read it properly, btu I think you can look at img tag. In the src attribute you can actually put a url. like http://blah/file.php; in this php file you get the http referrer. in the add you somewhere put this img tag. in file.php, while doing whatever you want, you will put the src

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
window when his ad image is clicked. I can't place code in the URL, either... Rick -Original Message- From: Srinivasa Teja Palla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables... Not sure if I read

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Snake
Not all clients will NOT send http_refer, it is blocked by a lot of problems such as anti=spyware, anti-virus, browser plugins, firewalls etc . Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2006 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Tracking cgi.http_referer

Re: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Casey Dougall
of problems such as anti=spyware, anti-virus, browser plugins, firewalls etc . Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2006 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables... I'm trying to track the number of hits from a site

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Eric Roberts
that tags the db counter each time the page is hit. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 08 March 2006 09:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables... I'm trying to track the number of hits from a site that a client has an ad

Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2005-10-18 Thread Aldon Moore
Hello Again Gurus! I need to maintain the url of the referer if the current page is reloaded seral times. Whats the best method of acheiving this? Eg: Visitor leaves a of pages Page B,C,D,E,F or G an goes to Page A page A is reloaded several times. How do I maintain the refering page A several

RE: Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2005-10-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
I need to maintain the url of the referer if the current page is reloaded seral times. Whats the best method of acheiving this? You could toss the value into a session variable, a cookie, a database, a structure in an application variable... There are a lot of options for keeping a value

RE: Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2005-10-18 Thread Aldon
Thanks Justin! -Original Message- From: Justin D. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER I need to maintain the url of the referer if the current page is reloaded seral times. Whats the best method

Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon

2004-08-31 Thread Brian Meloche
At the office, we've run into a bit of a snag with a script that a consultant did for us that authenticates from the URL of a referring page hosted on a third party site to auto-generate single signon authentication, so that an account from their site is automatically generates an account on our

Re: Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon

2004-08-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Brian Meloche wrote: At the office, we've run into a bit of a snag with a script that a consultant did for us that authenticates from the URL of a referring page hosted on a third party site to auto-generate single signon authentication, so that an account from their site is automatically

RE: Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon

2004-08-31 Thread Mark A Kruger
or hidden variable. -Mark -Original Message- From: Brian Meloche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon At the office, we've run into a bit of a snag with a script that a consultant

CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Donnie Carvajal
I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites from submitting forms; however, I have seen some strange things.The same form on one computer when the form is submitted will have data in CGI.HTTP_REFERER and on another computer, CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank.Any ideas of what

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites from submitting forms; however, I have seen some strange things.The same form on one computer when the form is submitted will have data in CGI.HTTP_REFERER

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Jim Davis
Sending a referrer is entirely up to the browser/system - most home firewall software will prevent referrers from being sent for example. You really should never use referrer as security mechanism it's just not reliable enough. Jim Davis I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Donnie Carvajal
So, any ideas on the best way to keep outside sites from submitting my forms? -Original Message- From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! Donnie: The Referer header is optional.HTTP Clients

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Donnie Carvajal To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:40 AM Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Internet Privacy software will strip out the referrer oftentimes.With all of the privacy issues and the software to address them, it might not be a good idea to rely on CGI.HTTP_REFERERespecially since it can be forged easily. Marlon -Original Message- From: Donnie Carvajal [mailto

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Donnie: There's been a lot of discussion on this topic in the past.You can check the House Of Fusion archives for them. In general, the best method I've heard of is dynamically generating a unique value on form display that needs to be submitted to the form processing page.Basically, when the

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Scott Mulholland
Norton Internet Security and similar products will strip it. -Original Message- From: Donnie Carvajal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Rick Root
Donnie Carvajal wrote: So, any ideas on the best way to keep outside sites from submitting my forms? Try using ticketmaster to buy some tickets, you'll see what is probably one of the more effective methods... then scan the list archives for the many discussions on methods of doing it.=)It's

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-08-27 Thread Jann VanOver
On 7/1/02 9:22 AM, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? Yes I guess this would typically be the firewall at the user's location preventing the data going out, rather than the firewall at the server's location preventing

RE: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-08-27 Thread Christopher Olive
: Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work? On 7/1/02 9:22 AM, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? Yes I guess this would typically be the firewall at the user's location preventing the data going out, rather than the firewall

Extract substring from cgi.http_referer string

2002-08-13 Thread FlashGuy
Hi, I need to extract d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ and decode the line so it appears as d:\temp\testdir000\ I'm not sure of the correct syntax? http://127.0.0.1/test/index.cfm?dir=d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ __ This list and all

RE: Extract substring from cgi.http_referer string

2002-08-13 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
I need to extract d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ and decode the line so it appears as d:\temp\testdir000\ I'm not sure of the correct syntax? http://127.0.0.1/test/index.cfm?dir=d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ Look up URLdecode(), it does exactly that - unless you're running CF4.5, then there isn't

RE: Extract substring from cgi.http_referer string

2002-08-13 Thread FlashGuy
Cool! Thanks On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:44:45 +0100, Philip Arnold - ASP wrote: I need to extract d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ and decode the line so it appears as d:\temp\testdir000\ I'm not sure of the correct syntax? http://127.0.0.1/test/index.cfm?dir=d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ Look

Re: Was: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-28 Thread mark brinkworth
to be rather poor, as it can easily be spoofed. So my sites don't rely on it, although occassionally they may use it to refine error messages. Cheers The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http_referer even though my outlook insists on arguing with me

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-28 Thread Dave Watts
A firewall would have to _strip_ the referer header from the HTTP request... a lot of work, and I can't imagine what additional security would be gained from doing this. Imagine that you've got a relatively unsavory site with a bunch of links to less unsavory sites. You might not want to

CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu
Okay. I'm stumped. I had this whole lovely plan for something I'm working on. It involved looking at the value of CGI.HTTP_REFERER. But that value isn't coming up on my radar. It doesn't matter what browser I use. It's just not there. I've tried different spellings (REFERRER, REFERER

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Douglas Brown
: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Okay. I'm stumped. I had this whole lovely plan for something I'm working on. It involved looking at the value of CGI.HTTP_REFERER. But that value isn't coming up on my radar. It doesn't matter what browser I use. It's just not there. I've tried different spellings

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu
into this with my IT department. Thanks anyway, Matthieu -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 7:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER The syntax on the first one is correct. Are you referencing it after a page request or form

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Douglas Brown
] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER I'm checking it in my Application.cfm. I want to see whether the page before the current page is from my site or not. If not, I want to do something different. I am guessing that my company's firewall is set to block outgoing

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Jim McAtee
Which web server and version of CF are running on this server? On my CF5/IIS5 server, I always have the exact same set of CGI variable (including CGI.HTTP_REFERER), but some of them will sometimes have a zero length string as there value. A firewall would have to _strip_ the referer header from

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Joe Eugene
Turn on Debugging on you development box. This should show you all the values in the CGI scope. Joe -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Okay. I'm stumped. I had this whole

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread mark brinkworth
stumped. I had this whole lovely plan for something I'm working on. It involved looking at the value of CGI.HTTP_REFERER. But that value isn't coming up on my radar. It doesn't matter what browser I use. It's just not there. I've tried different spellings (REFERRER, REFERER), looped through

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Michael Kear
The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http_referer even though my outlook insists on arguing with me and changing it to referrer. But as you have discovered, not all browsers send the parameter, because the anti-spamming measures adopted by a lot of people block

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread mark brinkworth
I have always regarded the use of HTTP_Referer as a security measure to be rather poor, as it can easily be spoofed. So my sites don't rely on it, although occassionally they may use it to refine error messages. Cheers The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http_referer

Was: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
. Cheers The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http_referer even though my outlook insists on arguing with me and changing it to referrer. But as you have discovered, not all browsers send the parameter, because the anti-spamming measures adopted by a lot of people block

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Save it as a variable? Pete - Original Message - From: Jim Vosika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:19 PM Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread Jim Vosika
Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Save it as a variable? Pete - Original Message - From: Jim Vosika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:19

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread mark brinkworth
. Cheers From: Jim Vosika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:03:45 -0500 I mean for pages out of my control. Like say the user first goes to a google result page then clicks through to some website where

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread dev
I doubt that you can do this without some assistance from the intervening page. While browsers have a history object, I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? This is not exactly the same thing, but the following does

CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Jim Vosika
I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? Thanks! Jim Vosika http://tinyclick.com http://tinyclick.com/ Free URL Shortening! __ Get the mailserver

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Kevin Miller
Not unless you pass the previous page as a variable of some sort (cookie, URL, form, etc). Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/02 03:19PM I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? Thanks! Jim Vosika http://tinyclick.com http

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Craig Thomas
I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? Thanks! Jim Vosika I have never done this, but the javascript object model has a history object which has the info you would need to know. Something like window.history.go(-2) would

RE: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread Dave Watts
Does cgi.http_referer always work with all browsers? No. Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? Yes. Because if it's not provided my app will assume they have no right to be here and kick them out. How else can I check that the user has come from a particular

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
cgi.http_referrer works most of the time... but not all ... if a user attempts to go directly to a page ( for instance from a bookmark ) without passing through a previous page, then there isn't any cgi.http_referrer variable when they get to the page... you can use cfparam

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread Jochem van Dieten
is if cgi.http_referer is the article, or elsewhere in my app, then they're granted access, other wise they get sent back to the article using cflocation . However lately, I have had some users who can't get access. No matter what they do, they're kicked back to the article. This doesn't

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? Yes I guess this would typically be the firewall at the user's location preventing the data going out, rather than the firewall at the server's location preventing the data coming in... I'm not sure I understand the reasoning

Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-06-30 Thread Mike Kear
based on the content management system's settings rather than my coldfusion programming. If a content writer changes the status of the article, it also changes the status of the CF application without needing to have any work from me. So the test I've got on my page is if cgi.http_referer

RE: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-06-30 Thread Tony Gruen
I use cgi.http_referer on one of our sites. The issue that has arisen with us is if someone has Firewall software installed on their computer or is behind a really restricted firewall on their network. As far as I have been able to determine, under such circumstances there is a chance

Cgi.http_referer

2002-05-17 Thread Eric J Hoffman
Is this no longer functional in 5.0? Did we miss something as it is not working on our new 5.0 server. Cfif not #cgi.http_referer# eq index.cfm cflocation url=index.cfm /cfif Thanks for any pointers. Regards, Eric J. Hoffman Director of Internet Development DataStream Connexion, LLC

Opera and cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Kear
I have a page which allows access only if a user is coming from a specific page, and I use http_referer to grant or deny access. But I don't think Opera gives this variable. can anyone else verify that? And how do you get around it? The situation is people buy access to an article or

RE: Opera and cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2002-05-13 Thread David Armstrong
Hi Michael, I've checked out Opera for you and yup, cgi.HTTP_REFERER exists. In regards to your code all i would do is rewrite it like this, but that doesn't affect how it works in the browser: Cfif isdefined(cgi.HTTP_REFERER) and (cgi.HTTP_REFERER CONTAINS #articleID# OR cgi.HTTP_REFERER

RE: Opera and cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2002-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
such variables if they don't exist. So, for example, this code would work: cfif CGI.FOO_BAR is not baz even though there's no variable called CGI.FOO_BAR. Second, and more important, you can't rely on CGI.HTTP_REFERER for any serious security anyway, since it's sent by the browser, and can easily

Why am I not getting the correct cgi.http_referer?

2002-01-14 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
=page_to_clear input type=submit name=submit value=Submit /form /cfif ...the final page checks for the cgi.http_referer, and if it exists, it performs a specific action: cfif CGI.http_referer CONTAINS clearpage.cfm ...do something... /cfif However, the http_referer variable is always returned

CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2001-12-04 Thread John McCosker
Yes there! This may sound overly naive but, on the index page of one of our web applications, I have done a check for the #cgi.http_referer# environment variable. Then I have done a search through MNS (per say), where it links directly to the (URL AND) template, the variable is defined

cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Sima Lee
Hi All, As I understand that cgi.http_referer created by the browser only when the user follows a link or submit a form to the current page. So sometimes it could be blank. With this in mind we put this piece of code in our action page: cfif attributes.method contains Action cfif

Re: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Robertson
- - Original Message - From: Sima Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:20 AM Subject: cgi.http_referer problem snip So the question is: Is there any other situation when the cgi.http_referer would not be get set

RE: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Sima Lee
this to happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I get

RE: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Robertson
NT 5.0) I guess we cannot do anything to prevent this to happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem Short answer: Yes. I've been running

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