RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-27 Thread Craig Dudley
is more secure as well, so WHY on earth would you want IIS? -Original Message- From: VAN VLIET, SCOTT E (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Yes. XP Home = Windows 9x. XP Pro = NTx/2K Workstation. NET

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Smyth
to be honest craig its probably because most people are familiar with IIS, but apache sounds good to me -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 09:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? What ??? XPHOME is NOT, I repeat

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-27 Thread Dave Watts
XP Home = Windows 9x. XP Pro = NTx/2K Workstation. NET = NTx/2000 Server What ??? XPHOME is NOT, I repeat, NOT based on Windows98 It is based on the same NT core as XP Pro and Windows 2k before that. I think that Scott's simply trying to draw an analogy. XP Home fills the same

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-27 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 09:10 AM 3/27/2002 +, you wrote: Btw, Apache runs like a DREAM on xp, it's free, easy to set up (if you can read instructions correctly), it has a smaller memory footprint than IIS and theoretically is more secure as well, so WHY on earth would you want IIS? ( To set up a development

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-27 Thread jon
: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? At 09:10 AM 3/27/2002 +, you wrote: Btw, Apache runs like a DREAM on xp, it's free, easy to set up (if you can read instructions correctly), it has a smaller

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-27 Thread Mike Townend
Yea but the conversion causes a memory leak and so its not v stable at all... Best wait till the xp servers come out... -Original Message- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 March 2002 16:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Yeah... but realistically, how

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Mark Smyth
to find it again but couldn't, anyone know what they are on about? -Original Message- From: Ed Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 05:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: web server for XP home? I just bought a laptop and we are discussing development (like at the park/beach/pool

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Clint Tredway
You will need XP pro to run any MS web server. Apache works fine. HTH Clint -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? now, i'm having the same problem. Apache seems the best

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Raymond Camden
, but if you are going to be doing developer work, I would really recommend XP Pro instead. Just my 2 cents. -ray -Original Message- From: Ed Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: web server for XP home? I just bought a laptop

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home? This is kind of a side thing, but why don't you want to upgrade to XP Pro? I know that when I made the leap from Win98 to Win2k Pro, I was _extremely_ happy. I didn't have

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Jeffry Houser
instead. Just my 2 cents. -ray -Original Message- From: Ed Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: web server for XP home? I just bought a laptop and we are discussing development (like at the park/beach/pool

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:16 AM 03/26/2002 -0600, Clint Tredway wrote: You will need XP pro to run any MS web server. Apache works fine. Anyone have a link to the steps to set up Apache for CF? I tried it on my system and could never get it to work (Win98) so I went with the Personal Server. T

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Clint Tredway
]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? I have to concur w/ the statement about moving from 98 to 2k Pro (which I did two weeks ago). The reason I chose 2K pro was because I had heard so many bad things about XP. At 08:41 AM 3/26/2002 -0500

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread William Wheatley
Consulting Partner Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home? I am running XP and have been since

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
. -mk -Original Message- From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: web server for XP home? XP is a much better and more stable system them Win2k IMHO. Though my belief is you will always hear horror stories about

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Raymond Camden
A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? More stable - and few patches and security flaws (by a factor of 10) than win2k at this point in win2k's release. It never crashes on us - the only thing I

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
yeah - romper roomish (I see raymond and charlie and Joel and tara... ) -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? I hated the new look as well - until I tried it on my 18inch

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Greg Alton
This should help. http://www.cfdev.com/apache/ Greg Alton CFDev - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home? At 07:16 AM 03/26/2002 -0600, Clint Tredway wrote

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Watts
XP is a much better and more stable system them Win2k IMHO. Gee, I don't know how much more stable it can be. I can count my Win2K crashes on one hand, and I've been using it since it was in public beta. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax:

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Watts
I do find it unforgiveable that Microsoft didn't include IIS in XP Home, it is very shortsighted on their part. I feel exactly the opposite. I think it would be unforgivable if Microsoft put a web server in a home OS. If you want to run a web server, you can always get one, but the vast

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Tony Schreiber
http://www.apache.org/ I use it on my servers and on my laptop development workstation ;) I just bought a laptop and we are discussing development (like at the park/beach/pool ;-) ) but I read somewhere that Personal Web Server won't run under XP. I don't really want to upgrade it to XP

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Robert Everland
. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? I do find it unforgiveable that Microsoft didn't include IIS in XP

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Hatton Humphrey
- Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home? At 07:16 AM 03/26/2002 -0600, Clint Tredway wrote: You will need XP pro to run any MS web server. Apache works fine. Anyone

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home? I do find it unforgiveable that Microsoft didn't include IIS in XP Home, it is very shortsighted on their part. I feel exactly the opposite. I think it would be unforgivable if Microsoft

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Watts
Well then why not just not install it. I see what you're saying about security, but if they are a home user and they don't need it, they probably wouldn't even know how to install it. It sucks that when I want a new computer now, I will have get professional and pay $100 just to get

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Robert Everland
- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Well then why not just not install it. I see what you're saying about security, but if they are a home user and they don't need it, they probably wouldn't

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Watts
Let's be realistic though, the reason they charge $100 extra is not becuase of security, it's because they planned on doing this from day one. They offered it for free to everyone, and when they crushed everyone else, they come along and charged for the feature that was once free. Who

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Watts
Well, it certainly doesn't need to install it by default, IIS/PWS is in Win98 (and NT4, and Win2K, and WinXP Pro, for that matter) and you have to explicitly install it... but it's there at least. With no IIS download available anymore, XP Home users who want to do web development have

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Marlon Moyer
I second that. I think the default installation of a web server was one of the major reason for code red being to successful. - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
: web server for XP home? I second that. I think the default installation of a web server was one of the major reason for code red being to successful. - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Alex
. - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE: web server for XP home? I do find it unforgiveable that Microsoft didn't include IIS in XP Home, it is very shortsighted on their part. I feel

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Alex
2000 and I am sure XP would follow the same procedure. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Marlon Moyer
Yes, the default install of IIS automatically starts IIS. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: Re: web server for XP home? Did the default install of the webserver also start the webserver

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Ed Gordon
will do the trick... I've been using Apache no problem... but the discussion drifted away from XP Home. Will SOME web server run on XP Home, or is it really lacking some kernel functionality? Whoever said Samba - the laptop is out for a drive right now, but when I get to use it again, should I bother

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
-Talk Subject: Re: web server for XP home? So, uhhh... Someone said categorically that I need XP Pro to run any web server. Is that true or not? The thread seemed to drift, all well and good except the blur in OS and recommend software... Will Apache run on XP Home? One person says no. Others say

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Dave Watts
Someone said categorically that I need XP Pro to run any web server. I really, really doubt this. While I haven't personally used either XP Home or XP Pro, web servers are typically very simple pieces of software. All you really need is a TCP/IP stack, which I'm sure XP Home has. Is that true

Re: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Hatton Humphrey
It was my suggestion, but somehow (probably my own fumblefingers) Sambar Web Server got translated into Samba... there is a distinct difference: Samba (file sharing for Linux (and more?)) Sambar Web Server (provides HTTP, FTP, SMTP/POP3 services) is basically Apache with a web-based front

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Tyler M. Fitch
** -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Well then why not just not install it. I see what

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Alex
, March 26, 2002 8:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Well then why not just not install it. I see what you're saying about security, but if they are a home user and they don't need it, they probably wouldn't even know how to install it. It sucks that when I want

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread VAN VLIET, SCOTT E (SBCSI)
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? you cannot join a domain with XP Home? Are you sure about this? On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Tyler M. Fitch wrote: Robert, I'm chiming in here after the storm has settled, but I'd like to add a feature

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread VAN VLIET, SCOTT E (SBCSI)
) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Yes. XP Home = Windows 9x. XP Pro = NTx/2K Workstation. NET = NTx/2000 Server That's it. -- SCOTT VAN VLIET SENIOR ANALYST SBC SERVICES, INC Tel: 858.886.3878 Fax: 858.653.6763

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-26 Thread Tyler M. Fitch
]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: web server for XP home? Well then why not just not install it. I see what you're saying about security, but if they are a home user and they don't need it, they probably wouldn't even know how to install it. It sucks

web server for XP home?

2002-03-25 Thread Ed Gordon
I just bought a laptop and we are discussing development (like at the park/beach/pool ;-) ) but I read somewhere that Personal Web Server won't run under XP. I don't really want to upgrade it to XP Pro to use IIS, and I tried two free web servers - when I click on the CF Administrator, analog

RE: web server for XP home?

2002-03-25 Thread Matthew Walker
I installed Apache a while back with no problems -- about to do it again for the same reason as you. -Original Message- From: Ed Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 5:29 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: web server for XP home? I just bought a laptop and we