[CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Ryan Duckworth
Any suggestions on source control products? I have looked into: - Visual Source Safe ($5000+) -CVS -CVS NT -Tortoise -WIN CVS What is everyone using and how good is it??? Functionality I prefer: -Ability to check-in / out files -History of changes -Integration w/ Homesite is a plus but not

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
What is everyone using and how good is it??? I moved from CVS to Subversion and I can't look back anymore The software is here: http://subversion.tigris.org/ First class docs: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ For Windowws clients this is a good GUI: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This may be

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
Hey - We use MS-VSS here, I don't know about the 5K price. We use it for 3 developers and I don't think it cost that much. I like it alot, it's very easy to use and HomeSite can leverage it. It also does everything you were looking for. As you prolly already know. I really dig the way you can

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
I've been very happy with Surround. I believe by Seapine. I've also experimented with... Perforce. Perforce is free for up to 2 developers and looks to be able (However I think Surround is much easier to use). At 03:14 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: Any suggestions on source control products? I

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
I'll second Subversion. CVS is great, but if you are starting from scratch you might as well start with Subversion instead. Based on your list of things you are trying, be sure you understand the difference between CVS/Subversion and TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN (and between CVSNT and WinCVS)

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
Can you comment on the setup of Subversion? One of my issues with CVS is that it is kind of a pain to start a new project, as compared to VSS. Is Subversion easier in this regard? === Raymond Camden, Director of Development

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Steve Runyon
We use Borland StarTeam, which we've been very happy with. Downside: it can be very expensive, depending on your needs. -- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words 'unsubscribe cfcdev'

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Daniel Short
I moved from CVS to Subversion and I can't look back anymore The software is here: http://subversion.tigris.org/ First class docs: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ For Windowws clients this is a good GUI: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This may be worth a check to get an idea about

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
What kind of problems? Personally, I'd say that if you are on Windows you should use Tortoise for both CVS and SVN -- I can't imagine it getting much simpler than right clicking on a directory and choosing to create a new project from that. Raymond Camden wrote: Can you comment on the setup

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
The issues were that the CVS server was on Linux, so it involved connecting, uploading a copy, making a project from that, etc. Maybe I'm lazy. Right click/add is what I want, so I'll check it out. === Raymond Camden,

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread rbils
If you use Eclipse (or even better, CFEclipse), the CVS integration is sweet, and it gives you a lot more project visibility than the TortoiseCVS client. Also, for CVS/Homesite + integration, I've found the Jalindi Igloo CVS plugin to work rather well. http://www.jalindi.com/igloo/ -Rob

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
What did you find difficult about starting a new project? Just run `cvs import -m created project projectName yourName start` from an emtpy directory. That's it. Check out a working directory (which will be empty, of course), start adding your files, and away you go. I don't know how differen

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
Heh, exactly what you desribed was too much. ;) I'm just lazy, and prefer visual tools for stuff. === Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
Hmm, you shouldn't ever have to manually create your projects. Even at the command line things are smoother than that. Tortoise is your friend on Windows. Now, what was that I was saying about keeping things on topic? Raymond Camden wrote: The issues were that the CVS server was on

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
Now, what was that I was saying about keeping things on topic? While not obviously on-topic, I think this is definitely within acceptable realm. Source control might not be CF-specific, but it's definitely a common problem for CF developers, which makes it quite appropriate, at least in

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
I'm going to kick myself for pursuing this, but CFCDev is not a general-purpose CF list. There are lots of other places for that -- this list was created specifically for talking about CFC development and associated things (like OO concepts used to build CFCs). Barney Boisvert wrote: Now,

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
As one of the list admins here - I think the rule has always been - it is ok to go OT for short bursts, but prolonged activity should be avoided. This was exactly that, a short burt of posts, and Officially I don't mind. That being said, if people object, I ask that you please email myself and Rob

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
Sure enough. Ryan's original message went to both CFCDev and CFTalk, and my GMail labeled it as CFTalk, so I assumed that's where we were. I retract my statement, apologize for my unability to use my mail client correctly, and agree that this is off-topic. Sorry about that. ;) cheers, barneyb

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread jeff
We've had good luck with QVCS. Integrates fine with Homesite. - Jeff On 19 Oct 2004 at 15:24, Raymond Camden wrote: Heh, exactly what you desribed was too much. ;) I'm just lazy, and prefer visual tools for stuff.

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Taking this further off topic (;-) and feel free to mail me off list but what exactly does subversion bring to the table that CVS doesn't offer? Also CVS is good (and the Eclipse/CFeclipse cvs support is really handy) but there can be issues with branching when using it on large web projects which

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
Read their home page: http://subversion.tigris.org/ See also: http://www.pushok.com/soft_svn_vscvs.php http://wush.net/subversion_vs_cvs.php Kola Oyedeji wrote: Taking this further off topic (;-) and feel free to mail me off list but what exactly does subversion bring to the table that CVS

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
2 cents - I found this thread to be of value. It helped me to become aware of other VersionControl systems. I also agree with your position on short burst threads. BN From: Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Source Control