Re: [CFCDev] Locking Instance data in applicaiton scoped CFC

2005-12-05 Thread Brian Kotek
Hi Gerry, nice to see a fellow NIEHS'er on the list. If the CFC that you are placing in the application scope is stateful, then yes you'll need to lock the WRITES to the variables scope to avoid race conditions. I do this by creating a UUID in my init() method and using that as the lock name.

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Jeff Peters
We were initially concerned about our host's reaction to bandwidth requirements for the podcast (thus the 4-episode limit on the feed), but they've told us they can handle it, so the pipe is now open. All episodes are now available for your listening pleasure. Stay tuned... - Jeff wolf2k5

RE: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Phillip Senn
Thanks Jeff! I fear to think what your album artwork should look like. Maybe we should have a contest. I'm thinking something along the lines of woodworking. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Peters Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:20

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Jeff Peters
We're having some work done even as I type, to make the site a bit (a lot!) more visually appealing and easy to use. It's plainly obvious that I'm no graphic designer, so I'm really looking forward to having a real design. - Jeff Phillip Senn wrote: Thanks Jeff! I fear to think what your

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Brent Nicholas
As I already told Hal, I think what you are doing with the recordings is great. I listen to them often while driving, though the wife forbids me from them when she's in the car... ;)) 2cents. BN Brent Nicholas - EclecticDetroit, LLC. http://www.EclecticDetroit.com 248.767.5516 [EMAIL

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Jeff Peters
She just doesn't want you to know how attracted she is to Hal's sonorous baritone, Brent. ;) Seriously, though, thanks for the comments. You're exactly the audience we thought was out there--folks who are forced to spend time commuting or doing other away from the computer tasks and would

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Matt Woodward
On 12/5/05, Jeff Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She just doesn't want you to know how attracted she is to Hal's sonorous baritone, Brent. ;) Seriously, though, thanks for the comments. You're exactly the audience we thought was out there--folks who are forced to spend time commuting or

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Jeff Peters
Thanks, Matt. BTW, if there are any topics anyone is interested in hearing treated on Out Loud, send us an email off-list. - Jeff Matt Woodward wrote: On 12/5/05, Jeff Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She just doesn't want you to know how attracted she is to Hal's sonorous baritone,

RE: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Nando
I also think they're great ... especially as it opens another avenue to learning. Listening to you guys talk things over really helps to understand things from a different level that's not as readily available thru reading. It conveys experience much more readily. -Original Message-

RE: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Andrew Scott
You know I was thinking after I was listening to some of these podcast's, there is nothing really available for this really. It would be so much more of an impact if it was viewable, with demonstrations on a more interactive show. MSN are now got something in the works where they have an internet

RE: [CFCDev] Locking Instance data in applicaiton scoped CFC

2005-12-05 Thread Gurevich, Gerry \(NIH/NIEHS\)
Thanks for the response. If you dont mind, let me post here what I eventually did. Im open to any thoughts, but I think it is relatively close to what you are suggesting. The only thought that nags at me is that a component shouldnt necessarily know what scope it is in. So if it is

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Dave Shuck
Jeff, I have not found the source code that you guys said would be made available for the example in HAPOL-02-ObjectsForMaintainableCode. This was more or less part of a case study that we did in Hal's class pre-CFUnited this year and I am really interested to see what his code implementation

Re: [CFCDev] Helms and Peters Out Loud

2005-12-05 Thread Jeff Peters
No, it's just an oversight on the part of a couple of aging podcasters... ;) I'll check with Hal so we can get that put up for you, Dave. And thanks for the kind words; I'm glad your commute is a happier one now. - Jeff Dave Shuck wrote: Jeff, I have not found the source code that you

Re: [CFCDev] Locking Instance data in applicaiton scoped CFC

2005-12-05 Thread Brian Kotek
I prefer creating a UUID so that I know it is unique but the idea is similar. Using named locks like this doesn't mean the CFC knows what scope it is in, only that it may be persisted and that means locking instance data writes when race conditions are an issue. Another alternative is to create