[CFCDev] Bean / Meta Data

2006-01-30 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
In my Bean CFCs I have the standard methods: getSomeProperty(), setSomeProperty(), getInstance(), setInstance(), and validate(). What I am toying with is how much data/meta data should/could I store about the properties within the bean and how much (if any) might be better suited for properties

RE: [CFCDev] Bean / Meta Data

2006-01-30 Thread Peter Bell
I have a neta data driven application generator which I am currently porting from CF5 to CFMX7, so I'm considering similar issues. I think you need to consider two things: performance and DRY (don't repeat yourself). Is the meta data going to be anywhere else? You only want to store and given

Re: [CFCDev] ARF+Reactor - was SQL Scenario

2006-01-30 Thread Tom Allen
Kurt, I would really appreciate that. I've just read a little about, and looked at demos of Arf!, and saw comments that it's less industrial-strength than Reactor, and haven't had time to look into Reactor. I've been involved in a Mach-II app that has no persistence management, and would be

[CFCDev] fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk
Being a FB developer I'm toying with the idea of playing around with Model-glue and thought that I'd quickly look up on the web a typically versus scenario but I found nothing. I was wondering if someone could quickly tap out a few lines as to the pros and cons. Thanks -- Nick Tong Managing

Re: [CFCDev] fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Seth Petry-Johnson
I haven't used FB since version 2 or 3, which was so long ago I don't think color had been invented yet, but my understanding of current-day FB is that it is a procedural framework and Model-Glue and Mach-II are object-oriented frameworks. They all implement the MVC pattern but FB does it with

[CFCDev] Frameworks

2006-01-30 Thread Brent Nicholas
All - I'm building a list of frameworks to study up on and (gasp) maybe build a features matrix, but primarily get familiar so I know how to identify when to use which framework. Thus far I have: FuseBox ColdSpring MachII Model-Glue Tartan Am I missing any majors that people know of?

Re: [CFCDev] fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Patrick McElhaney
On 1/30/06, Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being a FB developer I'm toying with the idea of playing around with Model-glue and thought that I'd quickly look up on the web a typically versus scenario but I found nothing. I was wondering if someone could quickly tap

Re: [CFCDev] fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk
Seth - thanks very much for you quick responce. I do think that the CF community is moving towards the darkside ( sorry OO ) so i think it's time to move over and get involved. Thanks again. On 30/01/06, Seth Petry-Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't used FB since version 2 or 3, which

AW: [CFCDev] Frameworks

2006-01-30 Thread Harry Klein
Brent, Brian Rinaldi did a great job by assembling a list of ColdFusion open source projects: http://www.remotesynthesis.com/blog/index.cfm/2005/11/1/ColdFusion-OpenS ource-Project-List There your find other frameworks like: Underscore, ColdFusion On Wheels, ARF!, Reactor, ObjectBreeze,

Re: [CFCDev] Frameworks

2006-01-30 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 1/30/06, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All - I'm building a list of frameworks to study up on and (gasp) maybe build a features matrix, but primarily get familiar so I know how to identify when to use which framework. Thus far I have: FuseBox ColdSpring MachII Model-Glue

[CFCDev] RE: fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Roger Lancefield
Nick, As Barney points out, the Fusebox framework itself is procedural, but it should also be pointed out that Fusebox supports OO model development (both indirectly and directly using ad hoc XML verbs) as well as procedural. Should you be uncomfortable with, or else have reservations about

Re: [CFCDev] fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Jason Daiger
Speaking from experience going from FB3 to FB4 is a much easier transition than from FB3 to MG. One pro I found w/ FB4.1 vs MG at this time is the ability to place all circuits, including controller, model (CFC's) view, in a shared area. This allows me to share the same circuits between

Re: [CFCDev] fusebox vs model-glue

2006-01-30 Thread Joe Rinehart
Hey Jason, This allows me to share the same circuits between applications. We have a core set of functionality that does not change in 95% of our jobs. I'm actively addressing this in the Model-Glue 2.0 core. Would you be interested in testing? Thanks, Joe -- Get Glued! The Model-Glue

Re: [CFCDev] Bean / Meta Data

2006-01-30 Thread Barry Beattie
forgive me for butting in but I just want to add a quick 2c 1) metadata percolating up to the client/view: we had metadata in some areas that changed per request (to drive the UI/javascript/page logic). the only way to do it (integrated with the data) was to use XML (with