RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-06 Thread John Farrar
Of Nando Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:50 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Hmmm ... the novelty of the statement makes it sounds like Hell must be quite a profit center. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Rawlinson
Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Hmmm ... the novelty of the statement makes it sounds like Hell must be quite a profit center. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lyons, Larry Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:23 PM

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-06 Thread Brian Kotek
moments pleasure. Perhaps you should reconsider that thinking. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nando Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:50 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Hmmm ... the novelty

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Everyone - please let this thread die. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-05 Thread Lyons, Larry
- From: M@ Bourke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:01 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? lol not this google is going to be evil crud, solution is simple, don't use google google is number 1 because of its coolness factor, the minute

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-05 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyons, Larry Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:23 AM To: 'CFCDev@cfczone.org' Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Also if you look at Google's corporate philosophy page(http://www.google.com

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-05 Thread Brian Billings
Some of you might find this interesting. It's quite long but the first 20 minutes were really good. The original sender might get a better grasp on the scope of Google. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3383042311441257769q=ebaytime=1153

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-05 Thread Nando
Message- From: M@ Bourke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:01 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? lol not this google is going to be evil crud, solution is simple, don't use google google is number 1 because of its coolness factor

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-05 Thread Barry Beattie
Some of you might find this interesting. It's quite long but the first 20 minutes were really good. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3383042311441257769q=ebaytime=1153 is anyone else having problems getting

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-04 Thread Jennifer Larkin
There are a couple of problems that no one has mentioned yet. For one thing, no one knows how Google's search engine works expect people who work at google and are under NDA. (Heck, I had to sign an NDA to have lunch at Google. Of course, I had to sign an NDA to go to the ColdFusion birthday party

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-04 Thread Tariq Ahmed
Well I wouldn't be surprised if Google does store as much data as possible in memory across thousands of machines. I doubt they're using a regular SQL database, might be some kind of structure ultra optimized for this particular purpose. So you'd need a couple of hundred machines to load all

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-04 Thread Barry Beattie
from Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page themselves: http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine I've also seen a video presentation by someone at google explaining how google page ranking works as well as stuff about their hardware and

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-04 Thread M@ Bourke
I'm getting a bit concerned about the big brother aspect of Googleand personal data it can (potentionally) hold.eg: I was surprised that my default google page is still .co.uk even tho I'm on a new machine and back in Australia (ie: .com.au). Itfollowed me all around Europe like that. The

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-04 Thread Barry Beattie
this is getting waaay OT but my last words is the integration bit between google apps back to search. I sure as hell don't want to know what kind of sites your into LOL! lets not go *there* eh, Matt? EG: hyperthetically, Gmail knows all the domains my emails arrive from. This could be used for

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-04 Thread Jennifer Larkin
On 1/4/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page themselves: http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine I've also seen a video presentation by someone at google explaining how google page

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2006-01-02 Thread Phillip Senn
I was scanning communitymx before January 1st and saw this article: Using the Google API from ColdFusion http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=E98B1E1D9908B4C6 Just thought you'd want to know... If you can't beat them, join them. You could put together a pretty good back end to your

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-24 Thread Joe Rinehart
Good call Dave...put me in for a few shares of the RAM manufacturer and hardware provider! I used to be in and out of the colo facility in Sterling, VA that housed a large portion of Google's east coast operations. The facility had two wings, each about the size of a football field. There were

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-23 Thread Dave Watts
I have already identified a potential competitve advantage over google. ... Also, is it worth it to get CF Enterprise edition for this or is Standard ok? I would simply ask that you notify us before you purchase the requisite number of CF licenses you'll need for this, so that we can all

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Bill Rawlinson
wierd your spelling check choices appear at the bottom of the email and your mistakes were still hilighted. Perhaps you didn't finish editing before you sent it? Bill On 12/21/05, Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about this for a good part of the day. While everyone

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Jason Parkils
I have already identified a potential competitve advantage over google. Currently they store all their site data in custom databases. As everyone knows, database access is notoriously slow. So if the metadata was moved into ram (the application scope) onApplicationStart, you would be able to

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Jason Parkils everyone! Give him a hand! -Adam On 12/22/05, Jason Parkils [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already identified a potential competitve advantage over google. Currently they store all their site data in custom databases. As everyone knows, database access is notoriously slow. So

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Phillip Senn
One of the Google people secrets can be found at [First 10-digit prime found in consecutive digits of e].com. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Menzel Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:00 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDev

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Mihai Manuta
I wand to ask you to tell us more and more about your progress. Since your first post the days seemed a bit lighter . Best, Mihai On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 08:05 -0500, Jason Parkils wrote: I have already identified a potential competitve advantage over google. Currently they store

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Scott Stroz
Please...Please...tell me you are kidding!-- Scott StrozBoyzoid.com___Some days you are the dog,Some days you are the tree. -- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email to cfcdev@cfczone.org with

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Bill Rawlinson
I'm starting to think this guy is just spamming us. his last response about the 10 digit prime really had no bearing on the subject did it? Bill On 12/22/05, Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please...Please...tell me you are kidding! -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
Rawlinson Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:06 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? I'm starting to think this guy is just spamming us. his last response about the 10 digit prime really had no bearing on the subject did it? Bill On 12/22/05, Scott Stroz [EMAIL

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Byron Bignell
4:06 PMTo: CFCDev@cfczone.orgSubject: Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?I'm starting to think this guy is just spamming us. his last response about the 10 digit prime really had no bearing onthe subject did it?BillOn 12/22/05, Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please...Please...tell me you

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Raphael Gerber \(codeyard\)
time" off and then charge your company eight grand. Just an idea ;-) Raphael -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason ParkilsSent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:06 PMTo: CFCDev@cfczone.orgSubject: Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?I ha

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread tom.schreck
Three cheers and a beer to the guy who started this thread J Tom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Bignell Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:22 AM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? The guy is either

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Phillip Senn
on to this type of humor watching Archie Bunker. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RADEMAKERS Tanguy Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:14 AM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? close. you're spamming yourselves

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Patrick Branley
Dude, even IF you managed to write an algorithm better than googles and implemented it with CFCs running on CF Server that used indexed metadata stored in Application scope (which is basically total nosense!) I dont think it gives you a competitive advantage over google. Heres what i mean - these

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-22 Thread Will Tomlinson
This has GOTTA be a joke! This is hilarious!!! Will Patrick Branley wrote: Dude, even IF you managed to write an algorithm better than googles and implemented it with CFCs running on CF Server that used indexed metadata stored in Application scope (which is basically total nosense!) I

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Christopher Bradford
This is an early April Fools' joke, right? Christopher Bradford - Original Message - From: Jason Parkils To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Hi, My company wants me to build a web search

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Shuck
Christopher, you must have missed the part where he said the front-end is done. All he needs is the back-end. He is almost there. ;)On 12/21/05, Christopher Bradford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an early April Fools' joke, right? Christopher Bradford - Original Message -

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Charlie Griefer
lol On 12/21/05, Christopher Bradford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an early April Fools' joke, right? Christopher Bradford - Original Message - From: Jason Parkils To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Hi,

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Here's a good place to start: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/search-engine.htm-- Scott StrozBoyzoid.com ___Some days you are the dog,Some days you are the tree. -- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe,

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Adam Churvis
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RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Phillip Senn
Subject:Google's Newsletter for Librarians - 1st Edition Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:11:32 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.google.com/librariannewsletter/1205 December 2005 Welcome to the first edition of the Google Librarian Newsletter. This newsletter was conceived at the 2005

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Joe Kelly
Try a Google search. HTH, Joe Kelly On 12/21/05, Jason Parkils [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company wants me to build a web search engine to beat google's search. Should I use CFCs for this project or are they too slow? Also can anyone point me to an article that talks about how google

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Patrick McElhaney
Sorry, Bill, we're not physicists, and this isn't /that/ kind of cold fusion. May I suggest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick On 12/21/05, Jason Parkils [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company wants me to build a web search engine to beat google's search. Should I use CFCs for this project or

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Stijn Dreezen
Cmon, lets share the secret to this poor lost soul :) Here is a secret link where google explains houw it is done. http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html :P Regards, Marbs On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Patrick McElhaney wrote: Sorry, Bill, we're not physicists, and this isn't /that/ kind of

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Brent Nicholas
Jason - Honestly, if your company is trying to get all excited about beating Google, but not having an internal plan already about how to do it, then you might consider keeping your eye on the job market. Now if the goal is to have a better internal search engine, then you should consider

RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Ung, Seng
Verity search engine from Coldfusion is good enough for me. -Original Message- From: Brent Nicholas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:06 PM To: CFCDev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs? Jason - Honestly, if your company is trying to get all

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Gary Menzel
Just because I have an opinion on this 1. They are where they are because they took a fresh approach instead of improving on something that someone else did - EXTREME INNOVATION 2. They have hundreds of people working on the technology and they have built their own computer arrays out of

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Bill Rawlinson
perhaps we all just misunderstand what he is trying to do exactly. maybe they want to do better than google and indexing their one website and not the entire web? Bill On 12/21/05, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because I have an opinion on this 1. They are where they are

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread M@ Bourke
Hi Best of luck, best advice would be to start with the right hardware in place, before you write the software go out and buy 90,000 servers and a hell of a lot of server racks to put them all on.M@ -- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Patrick Branley
Google receives more than 200 million search queries a day, more than half of which come from outside the United States. Peak traffic hours to google.com are between 6 a.m. and noon PST, when more than 2,000 search queries are answered a second.from:

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Gary Menzel
PossiblyExcept the words that say beat google's search engine seems to imply some type of competition as opposed to work better than google in our environment.Similarly working on the web crawling aspects implies something outside of their own intranet. Just a thought.GaryOn 12/22/05, Bill

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Bill Rawlinson
true, but since the dreamer hasn't reappeared and clarified anything I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Bill On 12/21/05, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly Except the words that say beat google's search engine seems to imply some type of competition as

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Cameron Childress
I think Jason Parkils may be cousin to Mr Stan Cox... -Cameron PS: http://www.riahsoftware.com/fuseblog/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuseblog.stancox On 12/21/05, Bill Rawlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: true, but since the dreamer hasn't reappeared and clarified anything I was trying to give him the

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Callum McGillivray
I have to chime in here :D If you are planning on building a search engine to "beat" google, is it wise to announce such a plan from a GMail account ? Jason - did you just let the cat out of the bag ? Callum P.S. While everyone here (including me) has enjoyed a bit of humor on this topic,

Re: [CFCDev] Google with CFCs?

2005-12-21 Thread Scott Stroz
I have been thinking about this for a good part of the day. While everyone has good points about what Google has in terms of money and hardware, something struck me about this. Its not what Google has or has done. Its the fact that every other search engine out there is throwing ass loads