Re: [CFCDEV] Source Control Breaking Builds (was RE: DW vs Eclipse)

2007-02-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 15 Feb 2007, Kola Oyedeji wrote: I'm with Sam on this - where possible you should aim to have a daily build. If the daily build is broken - it gets fixed asap. We tend to do weekly builds on longer projects, and, yes, if the intergration build (of whatever frequency) is broken, it

Re: [CFCDEV] Source Control Breaking Builds (was RE: DW vs Eclipse)

2007-02-15 Thread Kola Oyedeji
On 2/8/07, Sammy Larbi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Chiverton wrote, On 2/8/2007 10:31 AM: On Thursday 08 Feb 2007, Sammy Larbi wrote: You shouldn't get hung up on always having a working HEAD. Why do you say that? I've always been taught not to break builds when you check-in code.

Re: [CFCDEV] Source Control Breaking Builds (was RE: DW vs Eclipse)

2007-02-08 Thread Sammy Larbi
Tom Chiverton wrote, On 2/8/2007 10:31 AM: On Thursday 08 Feb 2007, Sammy Larbi wrote: You shouldn't get hung up on always having a working HEAD. Why do you say that? I've always been taught not to break builds when you check-in code. Wouldn't that require being hung up on that?

Re: [CFCDEV] Source Control Breaking Builds (was RE: DW vs Eclipse)

2007-02-08 Thread Daniel Roberts
- Need versioning/backup of files in various states of editing. - Team members should be able to get the latest build and have it function enough to work on their own part - Not sure the latest version of code checked in by developers should be considered in a ready to ship state unless your

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-21 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
Kola Oyedeji wrote: Taking this further off topic (;-) and feel free to mail me off list but what exactly does subversion bring to the table that CVS doesn't offer? Also CVS is good (and the Eclipse/CFeclipse cvs support is really handy) but there can be issues with branching when using it on

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-21 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Thanks, sounds good to me - definitely out it on my list of things to have a look at On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:05:02 -0400, John Paul Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kola Oyedeji wrote: Taking this further off topic (;-) and feel free to mail me off list but what exactly does

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
What is everyone using and how good is it??? I moved from CVS to Subversion and I can't look back anymore The software is here: http://subversion.tigris.org/ First class docs: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ For Windowws clients this is a good GUI: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This may be

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
Hey - We use MS-VSS here, I don't know about the 5K price. We use it for 3 developers and I don't think it cost that much. I like it alot, it's very easy to use and HomeSite can leverage it. It also does everything you were looking for. As you prolly already know. I really dig the way you can

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
I've been very happy with Surround. I believe by Seapine. I've also experimented with... Perforce. Perforce is free for up to 2 developers and looks to be able (However I think Surround is much easier to use). At 03:14 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote: Any suggestions on source control products? I

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
I'll second Subversion. CVS is great, but if you are starting from scratch you might as well start with Subversion instead. Based on your list of things you are trying, be sure you understand the difference between CVS/Subversion and TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN (and between CVSNT and WinCVS)

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Dintenfass Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Source Control I'll second Subversion. CVS is great, but if you are starting from scratch you might as well start with Subversion

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Steve Runyon
We use Borland StarTeam, which we've been very happy with. Downside: it can be very expensive, depending on your needs. -- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words 'unsubscribe cfcdev'

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Daniel Short
I moved from CVS to Subversion and I can't look back anymore The software is here: http://subversion.tigris.org/ First class docs: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ For Windowws clients this is a good GUI: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This may be worth a check to get an idea about

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Dintenfass Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Source Control I'll second Subversion. CVS is great, but if you are starting from scratch you might as well start with Subversion instead. Based on your list of things you

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Dintenfass Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Source Control What kind of problems? Personally, I'd say that if you are on Windows you should use Tortoise

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread rbils
Nathan Dintenfass [EMAIL PROTECTED]@cfczone.org on 10/19/2004 12:47:45 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [CFCDev] Source Control What kind of problems? Personally, I'd say that if you are on Windows you should

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
What did you find difficult about starting a new project? Just run `cvs import -m created project projectName yourName start` from an emtpy directory. That's it. Check out a working directory (which will be empty, of course), start adding your files, and away you go. I don't know how differen

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Source Control What did you find difficult about starting a new project? Just run `cvs import -m created project projectName yourName start` from an emtpy directory. That's it. Check out a working directory

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
Hmm, you shouldn't ever have to manually create your projects. Even at the command line things are smoother than that. Tortoise is your friend on Windows. Now, what was that I was saying about keeping things on topic? Raymond Camden wrote: The issues were that the CVS server was on

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
Now, what was that I was saying about keeping things on topic? While not obviously on-topic, I think this is definitely within acceptable realm. Source control might not be CF-specific, but it's definitely a common problem for CF developers, which makes it quite appropriate, at least in

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
I'm going to kick myself for pursuing this, but CFCDev is not a general-purpose CF list. There are lots of other places for that -- this list was created specifically for talking about CFC development and associated things (like OO concepts used to build CFCs). Barney Boisvert wrote: Now,

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Raymond Camden
] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Source Control I'm going to kick myself for pursuing this, but CFCDev is not a general-purpose CF list. There are lots of other places for that -- this list was created specifically for talking about CFC development and associated things (like OO concepts used

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
Sure enough. Ryan's original message went to both CFCDev and CFTalk, and my GMail labeled it as CFTalk, so I assumed that's where we were. I retract my statement, apologize for my unability to use my mail client correctly, and agree that this is off-topic. Sorry about that. ;) cheers, barneyb

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread jeff
it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barney Boisvert Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Source Control What did you find difficult about starting a new project

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Taking this further off topic (;-) and feel free to mail me off list but what exactly does subversion bring to the table that CVS doesn't offer? Also CVS is good (and the Eclipse/CFeclipse cvs support is really handy) but there can be issues with branching when using it on large web projects which

Re: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Nathan Dintenfass
Read their home page: http://subversion.tigris.org/ See also: http://www.pushok.com/soft_svn_vscvs.php http://wush.net/subversion_vs_cvs.php Kola Oyedeji wrote: Taking this further off topic (;-) and feel free to mail me off list but what exactly does subversion bring to the table that CVS

RE: [CFCDev] Source Control

2004-10-19 Thread Brent Nicholas
2 cents - I found this thread to be of value. It helped me to become aware of other VersionControl systems. I also agree with your position on short burst threads. BN From: Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Source Control