[cgiapp] cgi::app vrs ???

2004-08-31 Thread franki
Hi guys, I don't post much here, but I read everything, and have found much of the recent discussions of particular interest. What I have been looking for is to be able to do with Perl what can be simply done in PHP. (albiet much uglier with PHP) The apps I write hardly ever end up running on a

Re: [cgiapp] cgi::app vrs ???

2004-08-31 Thread Stephen Howard
The short answer is you can just include whatever modules you want to use from CPAN in the distribution right along with your script, provided they are Pure Perl modules that don't require compilation (with a little work you could probably figure out how to include binaries for a given program

Re: [cgiapp] cgi::app vrs ???

2004-08-31 Thread William McKee
Hi franki, I sympathize with your situation. I've been there. However, I must agree with Stephen's answer. Package the set of modules you love and upload it with your cgi apps. This not only gives you control over what modules you use but also provides you with a buffer should the ISP upgrade a

Re: [cgiapp] cgi::app vrs ???

2004-08-31 Thread Michael Peters
I agree with Stephen here. There are many projects out there that come pre-bundled with their own copies of CPAN modules to solve just this problem. You just run the install script and it does all of the work for you. If you've done your homework on dependencies it won't have any problems. If

Re: [cgiapp] cgi::app vrs ???

2004-08-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, franki wrote: What I'd like to see, is a complete package containing everything a web application could need, session management, password validation, templating, something like validateRM and so on, all in stand alone package that can be included with my scripts and

Re: [cgiapp] Groupware

2004-08-31 Thread Christopher Hicks
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Emanuele wrote: The most advanced (web-based) groupware suite written in Perl I'm aware of is probably Dicole Mimerdesk (formerly called simply Mimerdesk.) http://www.dicole.fi/en/products/learning/overview http://www.dicole.fi/en/community/overview/overview It's a very

Re: [cgiapp] cgi::app vrs ???

2004-08-31 Thread Cees Hek
I agree with what Stephen is suggesting here as it is definately the right way to go, but please remember to check the license of all of the modules that you include in your distribution if you go this route. I think most modules on CPAN are released under the Artistic license (or a combined GPL

[cgiapp] Thoughts on CGI::APP's design

2004-08-31 Thread Yung-chung Lin
I don't think CGI::App's design is good enough. Using run modes is useful and helps a lot to clearly define functions of a web application. But what I don't understand why not make return value passing purely data-oriented. Then, people don't need to mess with code and data within blocks