Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-20 Thread Richard Jones
P Kishor wrote: Because, Michael, it is difficult. It is not simply out of the box and click and run. To run a persistent environment, I have to install and configure Apache and mod_perl or FastCGI. I develop on my laptop, then, when everything is working, I set up the application on a test

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-19 Thread Richard Jones
Ron Savage wrote: Hi Richard On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 10:49 +0100, Richard Jones wrote: Ron Savage wrote: [snip] Hi Ron, hey that's nice - I just used it to profile my current app. I modified it slightly to make it a bit less painful on the eyes (though I You can't be serious. My code may

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-19 Thread P Kishor
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Rhesa Rozendaal p...@rhesa.com wrote: Richard Jones wrote: Ron Savage wrote: Hi Richard On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 10:49 +0100, Richard Jones wrote: Ron Savage wrote: [snip] Hi Ron, hey that's nice - I just used it to profile my current app. I modified it

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Graham
A bare Catalyst test app has about 87K lines. After you add all the plugins and support modules listed the tutorial (DBIx::Class, Template Toolkit, Session, Authentication, Authorization, FormFu) you're up to around 170K lines. Michael On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:10:31 -0500 P Kishor

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-18 Thread P Kishor
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Michael Graham ma...@the-wire.com wrote: A bare Catalyst test app has about 87K lines. After you add all the plugins and support modules listed the tutorial (DBIx::Class, Template Toolkit, Session, Authentication, Authorization, FormFu) you're up to around

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Peters
On 09/18/2009 09:33 AM, P Kishor wrote: But, now that we are done comparing our overweight weight to a morbidly obese weight, how about CGI::App on its own? To my completely uninformed mind, loading 40,000+ lines to create a small web page sounds like a lot... and, that doesn't even include the

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-18 Thread P Kishor
Very good points Michael. My response to some of them below -- On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Michael Peters mpet...@plusthree.com wrote: On 09/18/2009 09:33 AM, P Kishor wrote: But, now that we are done comparing our overweight weight to a morbidly obese weight, how about CGI::App on its

[cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-15 Thread P Kishor
Pursuant to the recent email about Titanium dependency hell, I was curious as to how big really was my tiny 20 line Perl index.cgi. So, with guidance from a couple of monks on PM, I add the following line to my script... END { system( 'wc', '-l', values %INC ) } and got the following (I have

Re: [cgiapp] size of scripts and dependencies

2009-09-15 Thread Paul Miller
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM, P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: still... is this par for course for other frameworks as well? other frameworks are much worse. -- If riding in an airplane is flying, then riding in a boat is swimming. 114 jumps, 47.2 minutes of freefall, 90.4 freefall