Re: [Chat] [Discussion] Fw: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report
Brad, Thanks for posting this report. Given the makeup of the Blue Ribbon Panel you would think that someone would have proofread the charts and tables. When I see headings that read Medium Income and Medium House Price I know that our city government is in the hands of idiots. It is hard to give this report any real credibility. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ; ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:41:05 -0500Subject: [Discussion] Fw: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report FYI - Original Message - From: Andrew Timleck To: Brad Schlegel Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report I’m sure you’ve seen this? Has it been circulated on Wavebell/Better Waverly/EGLS, etc.?http://www.baltimorecity.gov/mayor/blue_ribbon/downloads/Blue%20Ribbon%20Committee%20Report%20FINAL%20DRAFT%2012_20_07.pdfAndyOn 1/2/08 5:21 PM, Schlegel, William B CW4 RES USAR USARC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, first there are no Million dollar houses in CV. Most sell for under 400K. Tweefie can vouch for that. the main issue is that some assessments are more than the FMV of the prioperty today. Also that the assessments are more than 10% higher than the previious ones. The value for land tripled on many properties. There are other messages on the EGLS list which might add some more flavor. I just wanted to share information - not start a debate. Happy New Year. Brad- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:53 PMSubject: Re: [Discussion] Assessment gouging, and other tax nightmares.Im not sure what difference it makes, but I bet the estimation is probably pretty accurate. I have seen pictures of the houses on my street from when Greenmount Ave was a field.So, I tend to think the 100 year old label is right. Christine _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007___ Chat mailing list Chat@charlesvillage.info http://charlesvillage.info/mailman/listinfo/chat_charlesvillage.info archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/chat@charlesvillage.info/
Re: [Chat] [Discussion] Fw: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report
I can proudly say I did not vote for any of them, except Mary Pat. Judy On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:19 AM, John Spurrier wrote: Brad, Thanks for posting this report. Given the makeup of the Blue Ribbon Panel you would think that someone would have proofread the charts and tables. When I see headings that read Medium Income and Medium House Price I know that our city government is in the hands of idiots. It is hard to give this report any real credibility. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ; ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:41:05 -0500 Subject: [Discussion] Fw: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report FYI - Original Message - From: Andrew Timleck To: Brad Schlegel Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report I’m sure you’ve seen this? Has it been circulated on Wavebell/Better Waverly/EGLS, etc.? http://www.baltimorecity.gov/mayor/blue_ribbon/downloads/ Blue%20Ribbon%20Committee%20Report%20FINAL%20DRAFT%2012_20_07.pdf Andy On 1/2/08 5:21 PM, Schlegel, William B CW4 RES USAR USARC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, first there are no Million dollar houses in CV. Most sell for under 400K. Tweefie can vouch for that. the main issue is that some assessments are more than the FMV of the prioperty today. Also that the assessments are more than 10% higher than the previious ones. The value for land tripled on many properties. There are other messages on the EGLS list which might add some more flavor. I just wanted to share information - not start a debate. Happy New Year. Brad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Discussion] Assessment gouging, and other tax nightmares. Im not sure what difference it makes, but I bet the estimation is probably pretty accurate. I have seen pictures of the houses on my street from when Greenmount Ave was a field. So, I tend to think the 100 year old label is right. Christine Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Get it now! ___ Chat mailing list Chat@charlesvillage.info http://charlesvillage.info/mailman/listinfo/chat_charlesvillage.info archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/chat@charlesvillage.info/___ Chat mailing list Chat@charlesvillage.info http://charlesvillage.info/mailman/listinfo/chat_charlesvillage.info archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/chat@charlesvillage.info/
Re: [Chat] [Discussion] Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report
Be aware that if you increase the cap on assessment increases while lowering the tax rate slightly, most of us in Charles Village will have our property taxes go up rather than down. The exceptions will be commercial properties (including rental properties) and properties that change hands. A number of those who wrote the report are connected to the realty industry. Low caps on assessment increases and higher tax rates benefit long term resident homeowners but hurt those who move in and therefore those who sell houses to them. They have the effect of reducing selling prices of houses (which has no effect on those of us who do not sell our houses). For example, someone buying my house (not for sale) would pay about $333 per month more in real estate taxes when the full reassessment is in effect, but would have the same mortgage (including escrow) payment if the selling price were reduced by a little bit more than $50K. So one can see why the realtors would want higher caps and slightly lower rates. Another part of the report is about how much the tax rate can be cut if we have casino gambling in Baltimore. Given the support given by Sheila Dixon to passing the gambling referendum in November, is that a big surprise? Do we want to lower our tax rate by creating a casino in South Baltimore despite all the problems including increases crime that more gambling will create? Other proposals are to institute a local or regional sales tax (another 1% on top of the 6% that takes effect today, although the preliminary report speaks of 5% and must have been written before the special session of the Legislature), or to raise the piggy-back local income tax. A sales tax is regressive; the income tax proposal may have merit. In short, the devil is in the details, and the details overall strike me as more negative than positive. While real estate taxes based on assessed values have their disadvantages, the low caps on assessment increases seem to me to be less of an evil than the proposed alternatives. They allow long term homeowners to keep their homes affordable without being driven out because their neighborhoods become desirable to outsiders. Steve. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but the panel is a pretty serious group, so what that says to me is either a) the Mayor wanted to appear for election purposes like she was serious about cutting the property tax rate, or b) the Mayor really is serious about cutting the property tax rate and wanted to build a political consensus and some momentum for accomplishing that. If the answer were a, then they probably would have had the report come out before the election rather than afterwards. I guess time will tell... -Matthew -Original Message- From: jberlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Charles Village Chat List chat@charlesvillage.info Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:03 am Subject: Re: [Chat] [Discussion] Fw: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report I can proudly say I did not vote for any of them, except Mary Pat. Judy On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:19 AM, John Spurrier wrote: Brad, Thanks for posting this report. Given the makeup of the Blue Ribbon Panel you would think that someone would have proofread the charts and tables. When I see headings that read Medium Income and Medium House Price I know that our city government is in the hands of idiots. It is hard to give this report any real credibility. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ; ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:41:05 -0500 Subject: [Discussion] Fw: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report FYI - Original Message - From: Andrew Timleck To: Brad Schlegel Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [I-NEIGHBORS] Property Tax Assessments - Mayor's Blue Ribbon Panel Report I’m sure you’ve seen this? Has it been circulated on Wavebell/Better Waverly/EGLS, etc.? http://www.baltimorecity.gov/mayor/blue_ribbon/downloads/ Blue%20Ribbon%20Committee%20Report%20FINAL%20DRAFT%2012_20_07.pdf Andy On 1/2/08 5:21 PM, Schlegel, William B CW4 RES USAR USARC [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, first there are no Million dollar houses in CV. Most sell for under 400K. Tweefie can vouch for that. the main issue is that some assessments are more than the FMV of the prioperty today. Also that the assessments are more than 10% higher than the previious ones. The value for land tripled on many properties.
[Chat] This funny thing was just forwarded to me.
*A 1st grade school teacher had twenty-six students in her class. She presented each child in her classroom the 1st half of a well-known proverb and asked them to come up with the remainder of the proverb. **It's hard to believe these were actually done by first graders. Their insight may surprise you. While reading, keep in mind that these are first-graders, 6-year-olds, because the last one is a classic! * *1.* Don't change horses until they stop running. *2.* Strike while the bug is close. *3.* It's always darkest before Daylight Saving Time. *4.* Never underestimate the power of termites. *5.* You can lead a horse to water but How? *6.* Don't bite the hand that looks dirty. *7.* No news is impossible *8.* A miss is as good as a Mr. *9.* You can't teach an old dog new Math *10.* If you lie down with dogs, you'll stink in the morning. *11.* Love all, trust Me. *12.* The pen is mightier than the pigs. *13.* An idle mind is the best way to relax. *14.* Where there's smoke there's pollution. *15.* Happy the bride who gets all the presents. *16.* A penny saved is not much. *17.* Two's company, three's the Musketeers. *18.* Don't put off till tomorrow what you put on to go to bed. *19.* Laugh and the whole world laughs with you, cry and You have to blow your nose. *20.* There are none so blind as Stevie Wonder. *21.** * Children should be seen and not spanked or grounded. *22.* If at first you don't succeed get new batteries. *23.* You get out of something only what you See in the picture on the box *24.* When the blind lead the blind get out of the way. *25.* A bird in the hand is going to poop on you. * And the WINNER and last one!* *26.* Better late than Pregnant Steve. ___ Chat mailing list Chat@charlesvillage.info http://charlesvillage.info/mailman/listinfo/chat_charlesvillage.info archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/chat@charlesvillage.info/
[Chat] Baltimore wins HGTV contest!!!
Hello, Neighbors, Hurray! Baltimore won! We made it in the top four of about ten competing cities in the HGTV Change the World campaign. Here is a message that Bonnie Bessor sent to the AIA Members list. Note the WBAL coverage tonight. Best wishes, --Emil -- Forwarded message -- From: Bonnie Bessor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 3, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: [AIA Members] Baltimore wins HGTV contest!!! To: Bonnie Bessor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello friends and supporters of Rebuilding Together Baltimore! I have fabulous news for everyone--Thanks to your voting efforts, Baltimore has been selected as one of the winning cities in HGTV's Change the World. Start at Home. campaign. The five winning cities were officially announced during HGTV's coverage of the Rose Parade on New Year's Day. Now, with the support of HGTV plus local volunteers and businesses, Rebuilding Together Baltimore will be able to complete three very important projects in our community: 1) The home of Ethel Gaither, a retired grandmother who is raising her grandchildren in her Pen Lucy home. 2) Beautification of empty lots in the Pen Lucy neighborhood. 3) Renovations and handicap accessibility improvements to the Community Mediation Program, a non-profit organization in the Waverly neighborhood. Channel 11 (WBAL-TV) will be airing a story on our work with the Community Mediation Program tonight between 5:00pm and 6:30pm. Be sure to tune in! To see more details about the work we will be doing at each work site, click here to view the Baltimore section of the HGTV Change the World. Start at Home. site. Many thanks to all of you who voted and spread the word with your networks! Your support made all the difference! We now begin the process of recruiting volunteers for the projects mentioned above. The work will occur in April 2008 and will coincide with our annual Rebuilding Day, during which we will provide repairs for up to 50 Baltimore-area low-income homeowners. We are especially in need of volunteers with plumbing, electrical, carpentry, and landscaping skills. If you or anyone you know is interested in volunteering with us, please contact us at 410-889-2710 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you again! -- Bonnie Bessor Executive Director Rebuilding Together Baltimore 1014 W. 36th Street Baltimore, MD 21211 p:410-889-2710 f: 443-586-0785 www.RTBaltimore.org You can now donate to us online! Just go to our website www.RTBaltimore.org and click on Donate at the top of the screen. ___ Members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://abellimprovement.org/mailman/listinfo/members_abellimprovement.org ___ Chat mailing list Chat@charlesvillage.info http://charlesvillage.info/mailman/listinfo/chat_charlesvillage.info archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/chat@charlesvillage.info/
