[cia-drugs] Dan Hopsicker attacked again!

2005-08-21 Thread mark urban
Fintan has surpassed himself.

Without offering one iota of hard evidence, Dunne asserts that 
Amanda Keller's story is carefully sprinkled chicken feed that 
Hopsicker either knowingly or unknowingly passed on to the rest of 
us.

Fintan has fallen prey to the fallacy of begging the question. He 
assumes the very thing that he attempts to prove.

I think this pernicious fuck has to be taken on directly, because 
the silence of those he criticises may be taken as tacit agreement 
with his message.

Dan has been slimed. Fintan is saying that he has been monitoring 
all of the alternative news sites for the past three years in an 
attempt to catch the disinformers at their games.

If Hopsicker is phony, then I give up.  I'll just listen Sean 
Hannity, Bill O'reilly and Rush Limbaugh until they find me dead on 
a toilet with fifty pounds of undigested lunchmeat in my colon.

www.breakfornews.com

You can't miss the attack piece.




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[cia-drugs] Democracy is an Illusion

2005-08-21 Thread norgesen






Democracy is an Illusion 

By Henry Makow Ph.D. August 20, 2005 

A "Far Side" cartoon describes our innocence about democracy.
A slave rowing a Viking ship puts up his hand and calls to the whip master: 
"Yoo-hoo! Oh, yoo-hoo... I think I'm getting a blister."Like this man, 
most people cling to the belief that our leaders represent our interests. 
"Yoo, hoo, Mr. Bush, you lied about Iraq having weapons of mass 
destruction."
At an elite gathering, Bush peered under his lectern and quipped: "Where 
are those weapons of mass destruction?" 
A tiny cabal of international bankers chooses our "leaders". This clique, 
which subtly controls every significant facet of our society is gradually 
establishing an Orwellian global police state. Much of the ruling class has been 
duped to think they are building a better world. 
Prove it, you say? 
"The Naked Capitalist" by W.C. Skousen (available at www.abe.com  
www.bookfinder.com) is yet another smoking gun. It is based on the revelations 
contained in Professor Carroll Quiqley's "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the 
World in Our Time." (1966)
Quiqley, a Professor of History at the Foreign Service School at Georgetown 
University was a trusted insider who had access to their private archives. He 
felt the plot, which he supported, was too important to be kept hidden. However, 
shortly after publication, his book was taken off the market. 
Cleon Skoussen was an FBI agent for 16 years and the Police Chief of Salt 
Lake City for four years. His "The Naked Capitalist" distills the most 
shocking evidence from Quigley's daunting 1300-page book. 
At just 122 pages, "The Naked Capitalist" (1970) is a concise, lucid 
and absolutely convincing account of the international banker conspiracy. 
Historians who have largely ignored this material have betrayed the public 
trust.
OUR PREDICAMENT
Quigley confirms that a network of banking dynasties has, in Skousen's 
words, "acquired a choke-hold on the affairs of practically the entire human 
race." According to Quigley, they include "Baring, Lazard, Erlanger, Warburg, 
Schroder, Selingman, the Speyers, Mirabaud, Malet, and above all Rothschild and 
Morgan." (Citations are from Tragedy and Hope, 51-52) 
Quigley confirms that, starting with the Bank of England in 1694, these 
dynasties organized themselves in a system of central banks that charge their 
respective nations billions of dollars in interest for the privilege of using 
currency backed by the nations' own credit. In other words, they have carried 
off a swindle of monstrous proportions.
Quigley quotes William Gladstone who as Chancellor of the Exchequer said in 
1852: "The government itself was not to be a substantive power in matters of 
Finance, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned." (325)
Put another way, a private credit monopoly controls the governments' purse 
strings. 
Able to create money out of nothing, they naturally grabbed as much of the 
world's real wealth as they could. Quigley writes about the formation of their 
American cartels: "The period 1884-1933 was the period of financial capitalism 
in which investment bankers moving into commercial banking and insurance on the 
one side, and into railroading and heavy industry on the other were able to 
mobilize enormous wealth and wield enormous economic, political and social 
power." (71)
Indeed their representatives, the "Eastern Establishment" i.e. the Morgans 
and now the Rockefellers run the United States. (72) The principle mechanism is 
the Council on Foreign Relations. 
According to Quigley, the ultimate goal is "nothing less than to create a 
world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the 
political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This 
system was to be controlled ...by the central banks...acting in concert." 
(324)
Quigley confirms that the bankers have usurped mankind's collective instincts 
by financing the Socialist and Communist movements. Bankers love big government 
because the ultimate monopoly is the State. Through it, they take over their 
competition and control debt, resources, market demand and labor.
Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 
1940's, Quigley writes, "it must be understood that the power that these 
energetic left-wingers exercised was never their own power of Communist power 
but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie." (954) 
In other words, millions of idealists committed to human brotherhood and 
equality were (and are) duped into advancing a totalitarian scheme to 
concentrate the world's wealth and power into the hands of the superrich. More 
savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while 
unctuously pretending to serve humanity.
The Money Power controls the debate and encourages gridlock by backing all 
shades of the political spectrum and marginalizing anyone who shines the 
spotlight on them. 

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Fintan

2005-08-21 Thread Bob
mark urban wrote:
 In NYC most pizza places use commercial mozzarella that tastes and
 feels far different from the beautiful soft, fresh mozzarella served
 as an appetizer with tomato and mint. Aside from Wolfgang Puck's or
 a few boutique pizza places, most restaurants never put fresh
 mozzarella into a pizza pie - too expensive to be economically
 feasible.

 An interesting note -  when I was a boy, our next door neighbor was
 an italian lady who used to bake sicilian pizza in her home oven.
 Her secret was that instead of using mozzarella, she used muenster
 cheese, which tastes very much like mozzarella when melted.

 This just goes to show you that what we call muenster cheese in the
 US is probably just crap compared to what Barbara gets in Europe.
 Furthermore, the pizza that I have eaten all my life is far
 different from what people in Naples call Pizza - we have a fixation
 with tomato sauce that just does not exist in Italy.
The last time I went to New York I lay down under
the Ideagram and took a picture looking up at the
WTC towers with the Ideagram suggesting that
one day the two towers might lean toward each
other and touch at the top and fall down. What
Idea was the Ideagram supposed to represent?
Was I wrong? Yes, the towers fell straight down.

Sad. Ironic but Tony's NY Pizza is the best here, and
NY means Italian where Italian means Palestinian!
No tomato sauce at Tony's. No canned or bottled
tomatoes or olives, either.

In Northern Virginia there are some Tony's NY Pizza
places which employ only Italians, mostly they have
the accent, and they say what high grade of real
mozzarella cheese they use. They also only use
fresh olives and tomatoes, with the euro insistence
on fresh. Not the minced bottled black olives or the
small green rubber olives with a pimento, but sliced
big real olives that taste like a fruit because they
are fruit.

Mama Mia's Italian is Palestinian, so NY means
Italian.

I wonder if Luciano's sign is kelly green, shamrock
green, not Italian green, because it's near Ed Wilson's
1970's ONI-owned heroin and cocaine outlet now
gentrified into The Victorians, and near my girlfriend's
dad's house who was CIA and mafia, and her brother
was mafia, and she got a job at CIA in Rosslyn after
she got out of the penitentiary where she landed
after a botched armed robbery. Possibly that's
shamrock green, across the street from the cemetary
in the middle of which is a small house where we met
amicably with the boys from the next town over for
a deal that was too big even for us(which smacked of
too good to be true just after RW got let go after FBI
caught him on the Amtrak with four monster suitcases
of marijuana, so we passed it up). But I'm not a dress-
maker so I wouldn't know what color of green it is. Sue
the dress-maker.

Big Bite has the best steak and cheese I've ever
eaten but they're been everything from Iraqi and
Egyptian to some other mideastern now, and
nearby is Lebanese Andy's Pizza. Over in SE DC,
Youni's, but all the mideastern pizza places have
fantastic bread. Youni is a great guy, so was
Kamil the Iraqi. Youni serves dessert on plates,
has table cloths, and has an upper room where
presidents have been photographed and Jesse
Jackson, but there's no room for secret service
agents. I guess they just closed the place and
surrounded it. Cheaper than Domino's but you
get to talk to a statesman and eat off of plates
and be remembered for the rest of your life.

It's like going to Japan, don't complain about the
price of steak in Japan, just get what they eat.
Try the mideastern specialties.

My neighbor's been giving me the toughest cuts
of organic dog meat the past few months, and I
was so glad I had listened to the Tex-Mex guys
who came up during the localized oil country
recession in the 80's. They softened up flank
steak with lemon juice, and I've been soaking
the top round dog meat for four hours and then
the rest of it looks like maybe just saviche it
overnight, then barbecue it.

That last few months of $130,000 credit card
debt was exciting. I've never landed a cessna
much less a jumbo. Maybe I'll just discard the
two last pieces of meat, they're worse than
top round, which you can't find in stores. I
could barely slice the top round into loosely
adhered fajita strips with a very sharp knife.
After the lemon juice it was ok, kind of bland
for alleged red meat.

-Bob
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  LeaNder wrote:
   --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Hopsicker lays out numerous facts. He believes that Atta's drug
involvement changed his personality from meticulous control
 freak to
vengeful psychopath. Remember the dismembered kittens story? 
 In
other words, cocaine induced psychosis explains Atta's
 personality
change.
   
   thanks Mark,
  
   concerning cabbage I am an absolute fan of savoy cabbage and I
 never
   noticed it stinks. Maybe a bit?!?... if it is reheated -  my
 father