Re: [CinCVS] a bug fixed

2006-10-13 Thread Christian Thaeter
Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote: Oops! That was supposed to be replied to a personal email address. Please .. non-devel's and non-tester's don't use the git unless you are planning on bug-reporting / testing... and contact Christian (cehteh on IRC) or myself if you plan to do so. exactly ;)

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra documentation

2006-10-20 Thread Christian Thaeter
Alex Ferrer wrote: Merge with ? By default I am open to any other format or anything that helps... so whatever it is I am for it. On a side note, what I am taking from this thread is: A) The wiki is slow - Agree.. I will try to cajole the guys at taxnetusa.com to see if they can

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Christian Thaeter
Andraž Tori wrote: a patch that completely merges both editing modes of cinelerra into a single one, with shift key being the modifier ... editing modes are one of the hardest things for new learners of cinelerra to comprehend (by my experience) and there is really no reason not to merge

[CinCVS] AUTHORS file in svn

2006-12-27 Thread Christian Thaeter
my svn-git sync broke recently because of a unknown author (welcome rafael2k :P), no big problen and easy to fix but anyways: How about maintaining the AUTHORS files instead leaving it empty? currently I have http://www.pipapo.org/.cinelerra-svn_sync/authors I would just suggest to check that

Re: [CinCVS] AUTHORS file in svn

2006-12-27 Thread Christian Thaeter
Pierre Marc Dumuid wrote: Hi Christian, We could make a file called, SVN-COMMITTERS. Though you need to fetch the file before you run git-svn ... I don't think there is a need for just another kind of AUTHORS file. specially when then primary one isn't maintained. Also, I seem to be the

Re: [CinCVS] http://www.pipapo.org/.cinelerra-svn_sync/authors

2006-12-31 Thread Christian Thaeter
Heroine Virtual Ltd. wrote: Johannes Sixt [EMAIL PROTECTED] minmax=Andraz Tori [EMAIL PROTECTED] herman=Herman Robak [EMAIL PROTECTED] baver=Richard Baverstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] pere=Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tfheen=Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] andreask=Andreas Kielb

[CinCVS] setup changes for git users on pipapo.org

2007-01-01 Thread Christian Thaeter
I made some changes in the server setup, which should ease mamagement and allows anyone to setup repos on his own. For now it's all done in a way that it is compatible with the old setup, when something gets broken, notify me, that is a bug. I create a page on my wiki describing the new setup:

Re: [CinCVS] Rendering farm

2007-01-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rafael Yes I did. Let us say I have machine A, B, C, D A is where I have my files (150 Gb), B, C and D are the extra machines supposed to help on B, C and D I typed as root : # cinelerra -d, and got the prompt back Ok On A the machine I use $cinelerra or

[CinCVS] cinelerra/svn git mirrored to repo.or.cz

2007-01-30 Thread Christian Thaeter
I've just mirrored the cinelerra/svn repo to repo.or.cz (pull mode). For all Developers who mirror their repo on pipapo.org, I suggest to register their repository as 'fork' there too. To do this, just go to http://repo.or.cz/m/regproj.cgi?name=cinelerra_cv/ and fill out the form. If you don't

[CinCVS] fixing cinelerra, using standard C++ libs etc.

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
Finally I found some time to look at some cinelerra bugs. Cinelerra use quite some own things (which is natural since the cinelerra codebase predates the C++ standard). I believe the code complexity could be lowered by replacing some things with standard or defacto-standard libs rather fixing the

Re: [CinCVS] fixing cinelerra, using standard C++ libs etc.

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 10:20 +0100 schrieb Christian Thaeter: Finally I found some time to look at some cinelerra bugs. Cinelerra use quite some own things.. I believe the code complexity could be lowered by replacing some things with standard or defacto

Re: [CinCVS] fixing cinelerra, using standard C++ libs etc.

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
Nathan Ryan wrote: Hey all, First off, apologies if I am replying to this incorrectly - I usually read mailing lists, rarely post. I thought Hermann's comment about dev manpower was worth me coming out of my shell. I work as tech support at a film department in an University of fine

Re: [CinCVS] fixing cinelerra, using standard C++ libs etc.

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
Christian Thaeter wrote: you might pull it with git git clone git://git.pipapo.org/git/cinelerra/ct correction: git clone git://git.pipapo.org/cinelerra/ct or git clone git://repo.or.cz/cinelerra_cv/ct.git not yet ___ Cinelerra mailing list

Re: [CinCVS] fixing cinelerra, using standard C++ libs etc.

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
Johannes Sixt wrote: On Wednesday 07 March 2007 19:25, Christian Thaeter wrote: Remove the Garbage collector in favor of boost::shared_ptr, the GC has some nasty bugs, partially together with threads. By replacing ALL Asset* with boost::shared_ptrAsset these should be fixed on expanse of some

Re: [CinCVS] fixing cinelerra, using standard C++ libs etc.

2007-03-08 Thread Christian Thaeter
Johannes Sixt wrote: On Wednesday 07 March 2007 22:46, you wrote: Replacing Asset* in parameter lists by Asset is certainly not worth it. You gain absolutely nothing, but only introduce a lot of unnecessary code changes. Please don't do that. replaced Asset* with Asset_GC which is

Re: [CinCVS] DVpro

2007-03-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
Andraž Tori wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 09:39 +1300, Edouard Chalaron wrote: Hi all Simple question : is DV50 supported under Cinelerra ? Thanks a lot simple answer: no yesterday we talked about Google SoC 2007 projects, DV50 made it into the proprosals, there is some hope.

[CinCVS] cinelerra gpl license header for review, sketch how to solve the license issues

2007-03-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
Sorry, the topic gets boring but I added a license header to a C++ sourcefile (cinelerra/cache.C) I edited which reads: /* Copyright (C) Heroine Virtual Ltd. 1996-2006, Jack Crossfire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright (C) CinelerraCV 2007, Christian

Re: [CinCVS] cinelerra gpl license header for review, sketch how to solve the license issues

2007-03-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
Nicolas Maufrais wrote: Hello Christian, On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:44:56AM +0100, Christian Thaeter wrote: This file is actually mostly rewritten by me so the 'et al.' is only a safety measure, but for other files I don't want to figure who else touched them manually. Is the 'et al

Re: [CinCVS] where's the manual?

2007-03-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
Mark Grieveson wrote: RTFM, I tell myself. Yet, when I view the man page, or check out /usr/share/doc/cinelerra, I find them both sadly lacking. So, where's the manual? I'm having real problems with this program. Mark ___ Cinelerra mailing

Re: [CinCVS] Launch error

2007-04-03 Thread Christian Thaeter
Franz wrote: Recently installed Cinelerra on Ubuntu edgy launches OK, but always displays this notice first: echo 0x7fff /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax I don't know what it means, but can I avoid having to do this everytime I launch cinerella ?+ Franz When you have the procfs tools

[CinCVS] Build System enhancement (any helpers?)

2007-04-05 Thread Christian Thaeter
I started to transform the recursive ('SUBDIRS') Makefile.am builds into 'include' statements (see 'info automake' chapter 7.3). The idea behind this is to make rebuilds much faster and more sane and utilize a distcc cluster much better. The rationale about is, that a distcc build here will waste

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra crash at startup

2007-04-05 Thread Christian Thaeter
Martin Ellison wrote: /usr/local/bin/cinelerra Cinelerra 2.1CV SVN 1006M (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd. Internal ffmpeg Compiled on Sun Mar 11 22:31:51 HKT 2007 Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute

Re: [CinCVS] my cinelerra involvement

2007-04-17 Thread Christian Thaeter
Andraž Tori wrote: Lately i had almost no time to hack on cinelerra and it doesn't seem that situation will improve in forseeable future. Therefore, I'd like to point out that cinelerra is in need of new manpower to keep it in good condition. Currently there are at least a few grave bugs

[CinCVS] Build System enhancements finished

2007-04-20 Thread Christian Thaeter
The build system enhancements I proprosed some time ago is finished now. Here are some pragmatic (quite unrepresentative/inaccurate, due cpufreq and loaded machines) benchmarks: Setup: I disable ccache for all of this benchmarks, distcc is used as noted. The compiler commandlines still always

Re: [CinCVS] theme S.U.V. not found

2007-04-25 Thread Christian Thaeter
Graham Evans wrote: Martin Ellison wrote: Maybe it's your path. It seems that it is looking in the wrong place. It seems all these problems have come up before but I can't find the solutions. Apparently the themes aren't building properly because of the static linking options I've used in

Re: [CinCVS] [Fwd: Cinelerra Wont Start]

2007-04-26 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: This came to the wrong address... Hi, I just installed cinelerra on ubuntu 7.04 feisty. When I try and run cinelerra, a small window opens and then closes real quick. When I try and run it from the terminal I get this: Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.

Re: [CinCVS] General Cinelerra performance

2007-04-28 Thread Christian Thaeter
Ichthyostega wrote: Dennis Schulmeister schrieb: Another problem is the hand-written GUI toolkit (libguicast), which just doesn't perform as smoothly and fast as -- say gtk or qt or even java/swing. I already wondered which toolkit is used. I don't like java/swing that much because it's

Re: [Fwd: Re: [CinCVS] info cinelerra]

2007-05-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: bérengère, would you mind posting to the mailing list, where there are probably more people who might know? I'm forwarding this to the list. Subject: Re: [CinCVS] info cinelerra From:

Re: [CinCVS] New theme ...and perhaps... new effects icons

2007-05-22 Thread Christian Thaeter
Bodmer Stephan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote And remember that I want to make themes, but nees people to help me compilig... Hi, I'm interested to help you create a new themes... and perhaps for your first submission you could try to create some normalised effects icons... humm, the default

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 421] New: About Dialog?

2007-05-26 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421 Summary: About Dialog? Product: Cinelerra Version: 2.1 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority:

Re: [CinCVS] cinlerra install

2007-06-02 Thread Christian Thaeter
Douglas Pollard wrote: I have not been able to get cinelerra to install in ubuntu studios i386 with synaptic. click applications, sound video, shows an icon for it but it won't open. And it shows as installed in synaptic. In add/remove it does not show up as installed? Has anyone been

Re: [CinCVS] Upgrading wipe plugin

2007-06-03 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to enhance the wipe plugin to do vertical as well as horizonal wipes, and I've a few questions and issues about this code: - I really don't like the indenting style of the existing code. Do I have to follow it, or can I switch to something more readable

[CinCVS] ANNOUNCE: anonymous pushable git repository for cinelerra

2007-06-05 Thread Christian Thaeter
It happens sometimes that people send new patches/bufixes to this ML which eventually might get forgotten. To offer a chance that such things are picked easily up somewhere. I created a 'mob' repository on my server where anyone can push patches anonymously. Little HowTo: # first clone the

Re: [CinCVS] SVN Commit History

2007-06-05 Thread Christian Thaeter
rafael2k wrote: hi all, I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005... bye! rafael diniz Alternative: http://www.pipapo.org/gitweb?p=cinelerra/svn;a=log ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Thaeter
Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: o.k. i managed to configure the screen to be used as x terminal, following the instructions at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/NVidia/TV-OUT essentially, the tv can be used as a separate x terminal or as an extension of the desktop area (dual-head mode). in either

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Thaeter
output. cheers georg On Monday, 11. June 2007 13:15, Christian Thaeter wrote: Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: o.k. i managed to configure the screen to be used as x terminal, following the instructions at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/NVidia/TV-OUT essentially, the tv can be used as a separate x

[CinCVS] test

2007-06-19 Thread Christian Thaeter
mailinglist broken? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra

[CinCVS] testmail, ignore this

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Thaeter
just set up greylisting and want to check if this mailinglist passes through ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra

Re: [CinCVS] How to submit patch into CV

2007-07-16 Thread Christian Thaeter
I just commited Vits patches into the mob repo, contrib branch. Unreviewed! j6t maybe you take a look in a bored moment and commit them to SVN then. Christian Vit Stradal wrote: Hi, I have made a few small patches, which seems to me useful. I want to share them and (get them into

Re: [CinCVS] software(s) to capture onscreen activity

2007-08-02 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, What software are people using to capture screen activity (ie, starting programs, opening windows, etc in Gnome)? I'm interested in integrating captures of web browser activity into a Cinelerra project and wondered what programs people found best to do

Re: [CinCVS] Open Movie Editor

2007-08-08 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 20:02 -0500, Daniel Jircik wrote: I've been using cinelerra in a production environment for a few years now and really the only instability issues I've had were when doing something blatantly wrong or mis configured. Is there a format that the pros

Re: [CinCVS] #cinelerra irc channel usage

2007-08-13 Thread Christian Thaeter
David McNab wrote: Hi all, At present, there's only one Cinelerra-related channel on IRC, which is serving multiple purposes as development discussion, help and general chat. As Cobra has expressed, there's a conflict between these purposes, with developers logging #cinelerra and using

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
marquitux caballero wrote: in the comunity very cool people tried to explain me thos things, but they seems to be very focused in specific issues, and those BASIC things, are not important in this part of the coding process, and they told me those things are BUGs... really? bugs? or bad

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
David Kletzli wrote: I really have to learn how to use a wiki... On the site, I noticed you want to keep as much as you can to C coding. That said, has anyone considered using Qt for a GUI front-end (or at least the qmake mechanism)? First is was just up to reply following text to Fred

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
Mark Carter wrote: One of my fears about cinelerra is that there are a lot of git code branches out there, each doing its own thang, and I wonder how much good effort will ultimately be effectively wasted. Looking at http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra/GitBranches is enough to make most

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
Mark Carter wrote: From: Christian Thaeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The SVN was declared to be following HV and staying mergeable, hence I started my 'ct' branch where developers can work without this brakeshoe. If I understand correctly: * Cinelerra-CV is the ct branch

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its develoment stall: 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV Currently CVs goal is repackaging the HV version and fixing bugs. But a real community version should acknowledge progress and new features which are contributed by the community.

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 19:36 +0200, Christian Thaeter wrote: 2) Stop using SVN I just saw a YouTube vid by Linus who is talking about git: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Even if commit access is generously handled to people who ask, it's still a big blocker

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
Kevin Brosius wrote: On 2007-08-15 17:36, Christian Thaeter wrote: This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its develoment stall: 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV 2) Stop using SVN 3) Make releases 4) Make tracking HV less important I've been pretty silent

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-16 Thread Christian Thaeter
Martin Ellison wrote: Could you explain this more? svn allows branching, so why not just create as many development branches as required and work there? I do not know git, so could you please explain what git has over svn? (Not intended as an attack). I am out of office today. In short:

Re: [CinCVS] ct branch: ar: ./cinelerra/data/theme.o: No such file or directory

2007-08-16 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: Hi there cehteh. I had downloaded your ct branch a couple of weeks ago. I thought I'd give it another investigation. When I try to do a make from the top level dir, I get ar cru libcinelerradata.a ./cinelerra/data/theme.o ar: ./cinelerra/data/theme.o: No such file or

Re: [CinCVS] build failure AMD64 debian sid

2007-08-22 Thread Christian Thaeter
try ./configure --disable-mmx Christian Graham Evans wrote: No problem Graham. I would have said this is a different problem anyway. :) I am still getting build problems with a fresh checkout of cinelerra. I seem to have ruled out the most recent cinelerra change as the cause

Re: [CinCVS] libcinelerra3

2007-08-24 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:58:55 +0200, Derek McTavish Mounce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot this. More of a question on what you mean exactly: An NLE that deals with TV material (not just cinematic stuff) ought to be able to preserve interlacing throughout the workflow,

Re: [CinCVS] Irritating freezing

2007-09-19 Thread Christian Thaeter
Preferences - Alsa Settings - check Playback locks up Hello! I just compiled fresh Cinelerra on Ubuntu with dual core Opteron. And there is one problem. If I select clip from resources and go to viewer and start playback it goes well. But if I hit stop, pause or use the slider to search

[CinCVS] NVIDIA driver regressions, performance/stability problems

2007-10-24 Thread Christian Thaeter
I've updates the nvidia display drivers yesterday on my wifes machine and found out that the recent driver has some hefty regressions/instability/performance problems. IIRC someone else reported problems with cinelerra some time ago, so I just want to notify anyone about this problem (it might not

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
Jonas Wulff wrote: * Help coding already planned and important things Is there a list somewhere of *concrete* things to do (besides the bugtracker) somewhere? And not just on the coding side of things... Maybe we should create a list (and have it online) like this: Exactly thats what I

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: Christian Thaeter wrote: some personal opinions... A list of things which I would make me happy: * More people contributing to the project. * Help coding already planned and important things * Send patches (git mob?) which fix existing issues. Looking

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: Christian Thaeter wrote: mark carter wrote: For cinelerra things are little different: If you mean HV by upstream, Primarily I meant CV - I was assuming (very dodgy assumption, I know) that HV and CV perform a cross-merge, on the basis that it's all good stuff

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: Christian Thaeter wrote: Well you likely can't imagine how much kernel patches and repositories are all around and will never be merged :) .. same with git itself, when you look at the Mailinglist you see a lot of proprosals which are abadoned, thats the way free software

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
Richard Spindler wrote: 2007/11/12, Christian Thaeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey we use a distributed revision control system, this means we can merge code which is only coarsely reviewed to not contain backdoors OK. I wasn't sure how much quality control was applied. Thats was my personal

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
Johannes Sixt wrote: On Monday 12 November 2007 17:48, Christian Thaeter wrote: There are no restrictions on how to use the mob. Give it a try, but keep in mind that this branches have to be kept in sync, I may argue that long-living bugfix branches won't scale. But really its open for any

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
Burkhard Plaum wrote: Hi, Christian Thaeter schrieb: Richard Spindler wrote: 2007/11/12, Christian Thaeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] - Minor contributers send patches to Mailinglist. If patches are okay and plenty, minor contributor is given commit access and becomes major contributor

Re: [CinCVS] What would motivate developers

2007-11-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
Martin Ellison wrote: 1. Developers don't want to learn 100,000 lines of code before they contribute anything. 2. It depends what you mean by Cinelerra... Perhaps you would be better off starting a new video editor from scratch and reusing design elements from Cinelerra when useful; some of

Re: [CinCVS] Pushing to cine3 mob

2007-11-19 Thread Christian Thaeter
Johannes Sixt wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007 12:54, mark carter wrote: I made a small doc change to cine 3. I was trying to push it to mob, but no joy :( If memory serves, I first did: cloned git://git.pipapo.org/cinelerra3/ct git checkout -b mcarter Hack hack hack git commit README

Re: [CinCVS] Pushing repos

2007-11-21 Thread Christian Thaeter
Mark Carter wrote: Cehteh, you asked me to do: git push git://git.pipapo.org/cinelerra3/mob master:heads/refs/mcarter But it didn't work :( Uhm, master:refs/heads/mcarter .. sorry, my fault if that doesnt work, dont hesitate to aske me. I can push from my clone of the mob repo back to

Re: [CinCVS] introduction

2007-11-23 Thread Christian Thaeter
august wrote: hey everyone, just wanted to write and introduce myself...and possibly ask a question or two. My name is August Black and I already met quite a few of you from the cinelerra working group in Bergen, Norway at the Piksel festival. So, hello again! I've been a

[CinCVS] Re: [piksel] Linux Video Editing Discussion

2007-11-24 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, November 16, 2007 15:25, Richard Spindler wrote: Hi, The following document was created today, summarizing the discussion points that came up today, during an effort to create an overview about the problems where linux video editing is still without solution.

Re: [CinCVS] Re: [piksel] Linux Video Editing Discussion

2007-11-24 Thread Christian Thaeter
Jonas Wulff wrote: Generally Richard, Herman and me (et al) agreed that we wan't no bulky overloaded supereffects but that it is somewhat essential for free software to develop effects which do simple things and then can be used to combine new functionality. In this case this means we need:

Re: [CinCVS] Making Cinelerra smarter, so the user can focus more on making movies (usability, etc.)

2007-12-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: To the new readers here: There is a wiki page with a collection of suggested usability enhancements for Cinelerra, here: http://lab.dyne.org/cinelerra/Usability Wow, i didnt know about it :) One of my pet peeves is that users shouldn't be expected to care about

Re: [CinCVS] Making Cinelerra smarter, so the user can focus more on making movies (usability, etc.)

2007-12-10 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:33:07 +0100, Christian Thaeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herman Robak wrote: ... I also think the default should be either PAL or NTSC, depending on the user's locale. If you're in Europe, you're most likely to deal with PAL, for example. I

Re: [CinCVS] hardware question

2007-12-29 Thread Christian Thaeter
Scott C. Frase wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 11:45 -0600, Timothy Baldridge wrote: Your disk performance may be holding you back as well. On the oil effect, you are CPU bound, on a faster effect (e.g. grayscale) you will be primarily IO bound. Here's an example. Only recently (in the past 3

Re: [CinCVS] hardware question

2007-12-30 Thread Christian Thaeter
Scott C. Frase wrote: On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 20:27 +0100, Christian Thaeter wrote: Cinelerra has some race problems between threads which let them wait on each other doing nothing, this is hard to fix unfortunally. But generally I think adding more CPU's will add some performance improvement

Re: [CinCVS] hardware question

2007-12-30 Thread Christian Thaeter
E Chalaron wrote: Hi all, Just to carry on with my initial post regarding hardware. Considering that I just need power to render, not for editing (which seems to trigger the problem with multi cpus), I always thought that getting a rendering farm of PS3 could be smart ? I am most probably

Re: [CinCVS] Video quality in DV/LP mode

2008-01-01 Thread Christian Thaeter
Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Not directly Cinelerra related, but yet: I plan to refresh or backup my Analog S-video footages after DV conversion to hard disk and from there record back to camcorder DV tapes. Especially as I have footages on several 90 minutes Hi8 tapes, I wonder if I can use 60

[CinCVS] Re: [piksel] Fwd: [estudiolivre] I believe in cinelerra

2008-01-19 Thread Christian Thaeter
Fabianne Balvedi wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Leo germani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 18, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: [estudiolivre] I believe in cinelerra To: estudiolivre [EMAIL PROTECTED], Felipe Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] What Develop cinelerra as a professional

Re: [CinCVS] cin3

2008-01-21 Thread Christian Thaeter
Burkhard Plaum wrote: Hi, 1) Compete fiercely to get as many coders as possible to join either camp (Cin2 or Cin3) I would be interested in Cin3, and I downloaded the git source. But one thing in the source immediately scared me off: This is meant to be a community project, not anyone

Re: [CinCVS] Standards for render components

2008-01-23 Thread Christian Thaeter
Martin Ellison wrote: Where should Cinelerra go next? Several comments: * the first components to focus on should be o the renderer -- renders from the Edit Decision List and the assets to a codec, taking however long it requires o the previwer -- renders

Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra3

2008-01-28 Thread Christian Thaeter
Raffaella Traniello wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 19:19 +0100, Simeon Völkel wrote: But: PLEASE, write only SERIUOS and SUSTAINABLE suggestions to not fill up the wiki with spam. I disagree. Sometimes even stupid names can feed your brain's creativity and help to get *the* idea for the

Re: [CinCVS] Cin-3

2008-01-29 Thread Christian Thaeter
Burkhard Plaum wrote: Hi, Christian Thaeter schrieb: Moreover when plugins want to provide gui's on themself (dialog window for configuration, timeline rendering, mask overlays, patchbay widgets,...) these should/must use the toolkit a upcoming gui uses. So we have the choice of either

Re: [CinCVS] Cin-3

2008-01-29 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:39:11 +0100, Hannu Vuolasaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:44:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theoretically a nice Idea, but remember that a NLE can have very complex, custom Widgets, like the Timeline and Previews, these

Re: [CinCVS] Re: User interface toolkits and Cin-3

2008-01-30 Thread Christian Thaeter
Burkhard Plaum wrote: Hi, Richard Spindler schrieb: 2008/1/30, Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin (For Qt), Is it possible for the community (ie anyone outside Martin TrollTech) to write user interface widgets? Cin3 will need to Martin write some specialist widgets -- how will this fit in with

Re: [CinCVS] User Interface CONCEPTS mockup.

2008-02-07 Thread Christian Thaeter
ok, I've made a wiki page to collect ideas: http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/GuiBrainstorming Please add your proposals/ideas there, don't go too much into implementation details, refrain from altering others ideas (except for typo and gramatic fixes). This shall serve just to collect

Re: [CinCVS] Re: Quick Start Guide

2008-02-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
stage and things are much in flux. Please feel free to ask more questions. We don't have a complete Architecture overview or Roadmap yet, but it is clear that the new app. will have three Layers: - Backend (written in C, ask Christian Thaeter for details [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Proc

Re: [CinCVS] Lumierra com and org

2008-02-22 Thread Christian Thaeter
Yama Ploskonka wrote: I just picked up the domain names lumierra.org and lumierra.com, to avoid them being taken over by someone not related to the project. Will be happy to transfer them to the formal project once this is decided as our name, or if that doesn't gel they are neat names for

Re: [CinCVS] why not...

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Thaeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About a new name of cin3, we can use on-line vote with the best/all name on http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Names We can start 10 day vote for new name and we can finally stop this thread! ;P There are some options how we can decide on a name. Whats

Re: [CinCVS] Cin3 naming

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Thaeter
Raffaella Traniello wrote: Ciao! I want you to know how the naming is going. I talked with cehteh and ichthyo, the core-devs of the project. They agree that the naming is based on community contribution. The community has done a great job during the collecting names phase. All the

Re: [CinCV] More logos for Lumiera

2008-03-16 Thread Christian Thaeter
Ichthyostega wrote: Leandro Ribeiro schrieb: 1) The small L in the font type used motivated this logo, because it looks so much like a piece of film. I've tried with different colors, but I only liked it with the red one. The idea is to create a classic (both in font type and logo) feel,

Re: [CinCV] Cin 3: my 3 cents

2008-03-27 Thread Christian Thaeter
Marcin Kostur wrote: Dear developers (...developers,developers,developers)! Although I do not contribute to the cin3 source (so far ;-), I have few thoughts: 1) Blender has great GUI and works with windows. If cin3 is working on windows community is 100x bigger! Blenders also are

Re: [CinCV] Can I Get Involved?

2008-03-28 Thread Christian Thaeter
Joel Holdsworth wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 18:36 +0100, Herman Robak wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:16:58 +0100, Joel Holdsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm thinking of getting involved with development on cinelerra/luminerra, so I thought I'd say hello on this mailing list.

[CinCV] [Announce] Third Open Video Developer meeting, aka First Lumiera Developers meeting

2008-03-29 Thread Christian Thaeter
Hi folks, our next Developer meeting is scheduled on Tuesday the 3. April 2008 at 21:00 GMT We know that this time is uncomfortable for people downunder and far east, please speak up urgendly with other time proposals if you want to attend! This time we will held the meeting on

Re: [CinCV] LGM !

2008-04-09 Thread Christian Thaeter
Roland wrote: Hi all, Why not Lumiera at LGM? Libre Graphics Meeting will take place at Wroclaw (Poland) on 8-11 th May 2008. 8th May is our developer meeting :P What about a participation of the Lumiera team? Application as project there is likely a little to short in time prolly for the

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra doesn't understand Xinerama well, or at all.

2008-04-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
Herman Robak wrote: Recently I tried out Xinerama on my Opteron workhorse. Moving windows between screens was fun, but Cinelerra had focus issues and other annoyances. In particular, if I had placed the Compositor in the second screen, the pressed f to maximise it to fullscreen mode, it

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra doesn't understand Xinerama well, or at all.

2008-04-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: thanks for replying, though i am not sure wether i understand... what you write would mean i use xinerama (one big virtual screen)... but the device configuration options offered by nvidia-settings are: 1. Disabled, 2. Separate X screen (requires X restart), thats

Re: [CinCV] Re: Lumiera Engine

2008-04-17 Thread Christian Thaeter
Burkhard Plaum wrote: Hi, Ichthyostega schrieb: But, /assumed you do have theses capabilities/, the goal is to write code able to deal with organizing all those video frames efficiently -- and this is what the video player test app is aiming at. Roland schrieb: What do you mean by

Re: [CinCV] dual head gama correction

2008-04-17 Thread Christian Thaeter
E Chalaron wrote: Hi all Hope I am not off topic here but Does anybody know if there is a mode with Nvidia that allows to have different gama correction for each screen. With dual view it seems you can do a lot, but not sure about independant tuning for each screen. That of course from

[CinCV] [Announce] Lumiera Developers meeting

2008-05-05 Thread Christian Thaeter
Hi folks, our next Developer meeting is scheduled on Thursday the 8. May 2008 at 21:00 UTC The meeting will be held on irc.freenode.net in #lumiera The agenda for this meeting is at http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Lumiera/MonthlyMeetings No much Topics so far, please add some. Anyways if

Re: [CinCV] Introduction of myself

2008-05-13 Thread Christian Thaeter
Serge GIELKENS wrote: Hi everyone, I have been following the Cinelerra3/Lumiera project for a few months now to get an idea of where it would go. It all seems very serious and help is appreciated, also from beginners. I am an absolute beginner. Never have I participated in an open source

Re: [CinCV] thumbnail based renderless editor

2008-05-21 Thread Christian Thaeter
I've added following to our GuiBrainstorming page: -- Sparse Timeline Make the timeline view 'sparse', that means the time on top is not continious anymore but 'boring' sequences get ommited and 'interesting' sequences get

Re: [CinCV] Some ideas for Lumiera... (was) PiTiVi Has some ideas

2008-06-08 Thread Christian Thaeter
I also think that video processing tasks should be run in a separate process from the gui so that they can't cause it to crash if they crash themselves. No, No, No! That would be completely misguided, IMHO. We should never bend the architecture in order to isolate against possible crashes. The

[CinCV] Lumiera Donations Questions

2008-06-12 Thread Christian Thaeter
Some Months ago when someone offered to donate some RAM, I answered that I have sufficient hardware for myself. Now it it struck me and my laptop got broken a few weeks ago, this is quite depressing for me since I relied on working on the laptop alot and have problems to finance a new one

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