Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, September 12, 2011 01:28:22 AM Nick Hilliard wrote: > well, yes and no. NPUs are fine but they aren't CPUs and > you'll never get the flexibility of a CPU-forwarded box > on NPU based hardware, at least not at a comparable > price point. That's why I said "decent-enough", which, of c

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-11 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 10/09/2011 04:51, Mark Tinka wrote: > Fodder for the ASR1000 BU. > > The box certainly has the tech. to be a decent-enough firewall, and is > obviously a router by all accounts. well, yes and no. NPUs are fine but they aren't CPUs and you'll never get the flexibility of a CPU-forwarded box on

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, September 10, 2011 01:16:31 AM Nick Hilliard wrote: > i'm tending to run a local ospf instance on the fw-router > link and then redistributing from ospf->bgp on the > next-hop router. Really it would be much better to have > fw support for bgp, but the ASA is such an enterprise > bo

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/09/2011 16:51, Colin Whittaker wrote: > This exact limitation is why everytime I deploy firewalls these days > there tends to be some form of L3 switch on either side just so I have > something to run BGP on and just do eBGP multihop across the ASA. i'm tending to run a local ospf instance o

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 11:33:37AM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote: > > Just last week I had a customer call due to weird issues with "passive > > FTP is not working right"... but indeed that might have been an older > > firmware release. > > Hmm, would it happen to have including a NetBSD or OpenB

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Colin Whittaker
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 05:23:59PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote: > > 1) It now does dynamic routing (RIP, OSPF, EIGRP) > > ... but still no BGP, which is undoubtly *the* routing protocol that you > want to use if you don't trust your neighbours (due to much better filtering > support) - and "firewall

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Matthew Huff
> To: Matthew Huff > Cc: 'Gert Doering'; 'Jay Nakamura'; 'cisco-nsp' > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW > > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 11:17:39AM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote: > > I understand where this comes from, but the ASA is a bit

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 11:17:39AM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote: > I understand where this comes from, but the ASA is a bit more modern then the > "PIXen". > > 1) It now does dynamic routing (RIP, OSPF, EIGRP) ... but still no BGP, which is undoubtly *the* routing protocol that you want to use

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Matthew Huff
ther.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- > boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:05 AM > To: Jay Nakamura > Cc: cisco-nsp > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW > > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:31:06AM -0400, Jay Nakamura wrote:

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:31:06AM -0400, Jay Nakamura wrote: > I have been wondering lately, what advantages do ASA have over ISR as > a firewall on the low end? As just one stand alone firewall, what > features are there for ASA that distinguishes itself? Often, I rather > have an ISR over

Re: [c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jay Nakamura wrote: > I have been wondering lately, what advantages do ASA have over ISR as > a firewall on the low end? As just one stand alone firewall, what > features are there for ASA that distinguishes itself? Often, I rather > have an ISR over

[c-nsp] ASA vs ISR ZBFW

2011-09-08 Thread Jay Nakamura
I have been wondering lately, what advantages do ASA have over ISR as a firewall on the low end? As just one stand alone firewall, what features are there for ASA that distinguishes itself? Often, I rather have an ISR over an ASA so I have more flexibility in a budget environment. ASA5505-SEC-BU