Re: [c-nsp] CoPP Hardware Counters on RSP720/7600

2008-09-23 Thread David Granzer
Hello, with CoPP enabled and flood ping to the RSP720 I don't have higher CPU utilization than is normal on my box. Without CoPP and ICMP flood (ping -f -s 1400) the CPU util goes to 90% - 99%. CPU utilization for five seconds: 96%/21%; one minute: 44%; five minutes: 20% PID Runtime(ms)

[c-nsp] X2 and WAN PHY

2008-09-23 Thread MKS
Hi list According to http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/interfaces_modules/transceiver_modules/installation/note/78_16705.html the X2 family is missing DWDM transceivers and WAN PHY transceivers. Does someone know if/when WAN PHY will be available in X2 formfactor? Or is there a third party that

[c-nsp] vs wism modules

2008-09-23 Thread Arne Larsen / Region Nordjylland
Hi Folks. Does anyone know if there is a whitepaper available that describes exactly what wism module does and work regarding packet flows tunnel setups and so on. What impact has it on a cat6500's performance. /Arne ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] X2 and WAN PHY

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Durack
The only X2 DWDM optics I have seen are: http://www.ghipsystems.com/en/Products/X2-en/X2-en.html Website says: *X2 Modules for 10G-Ethernet, 10G-Fibre Channel, and OC192/STM-64* so I assume they will work for WAN PHY. (I have no experience with these, just found them when googling.) Tim: On

[c-nsp] Debugging Cisco VPN Client Software ... Is it even possible ?

2008-09-23 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
Hi all, From the _client_ perspective can anyone recommend any tools/techniques to debug Cisco VPN client problems ? (they drive me mad). These are mostly Windows based clients connecting to a cisco vpn concentrator. I tend to trawl through event logs and client vpn logs and really have no real

[c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi folks.. We have a couple of customers that are looking to purchase an Internet connection from us - this will be a BGP feed to each customer as they are multihomed today etc. Normally, we would just supply a full table and let them decide what to do with it. In this scenario, they both

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Stephen Kratzer
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 08:37:56 Paul Stewart wrote: Hi folks.. We have a couple of customers that are looking to purchase an Internet connection from us - this will be a BGP feed to each customer as they are multihomed today etc. Normally, we would just supply a full table and let

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Ozgur Guler
Have you tried using debug ip packet or debug packet with debug condition interface? --- On Mon, 22/9/08, Jason Lixfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jason Lixfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Date: Monday,

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Stephen Kratzer
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 08:37:56 Paul Stewart wrote: Hi folks.. We have a couple of customers that are looking to purchase an Internet connection from us - this will be a BGP feed to each customer as they are multihomed today etc. Normally, we would just supply a full table and let

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:52:21PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Attaching a access-list 100 permit ip any any log-input to the interface and/or subinterface via ip access-group didn't show anything - the interface counters Curious ... since I dont have the luxury to play with

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Thank you ... so really the best solution for us to offer is what we already do - full table. Also, since we support a full list of communities the customer has complete control over when/where they get advertised. Or a simple approach for the customers would be heavy prepending and low

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread David Coulson
Paul, They would need to do two things. 1) AS prepend on the routes they advertise to you, so the AS path is longer than their path through Cogent. This will force most of their inbound traffic via Cogent. 2) Local pref setting for routes received from you to make them less desirable than

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:52:21PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Attaching a access-list 100 permit ip any any log-input to the interface and/or subinterface via ip access-group didn't show anything - the interface counters

[c-nsp] SIP-600

2008-09-23 Thread MKS
If I have a SIP-600 in a 7600 and SPA 1 port 10GbE. Lets say I have 5 gig of traffic on the 10 gig card, can I also have a 5 port GeE and thus oversubscribe the SIP-600? or will the 5 port card be disabled? Thanks //MKS ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Franklin
On Tue, September 23, 2008 2:07 pm, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: Curious ... since I dont have the luxury to play with cisco kit all day (jack of trades ...) can someone please give me a quick explanation as to how creating an ACL on an interface helps with debugging that interface ? access-list

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Paul Stewart wrote: We have a couple of customers that are looking to purchase an Internet connection from us - this will be a BGP feed to each customer as they are multihomed today etc. Normally, we would just supply a full table and let them decide what to do with it.

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread a. rahman isnaini r.sutan
Hi, My choice : Inject them a default route ask them to prepend their prefixes to you rgs a. rahman isnaini rangkayo sutan Paul Stewart wrote: Hi folks.. We have a couple of customers that are looking to purchase an Internet connection from us - this will be a BGP feed to each

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Church, Charles
If you want to only give them a default, they could use static object tracking to override your default with their own provider. If that provider drops, the static that's tracked (with an AD lower than BGP) will go away, and your default would now be used. Chuck -Original Message-

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Stephen Kratzer
IMHO, it's best to offer three options to the customer, full routes, partial routes, or a default route only. That is, say Here are three possible configurations, which one do you want? On Tuesday 23 September 2008 09:13:25 Paul Stewart wrote: Thank you ... so really the best solution for us

Re: [c-nsp] c4000

2008-09-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday 22 September 2008 18:59:02 adrian kok wrote: Hi all ls any different to setup vlan between catalyst 4000 and 2960? I need to setup the cisco2800 to have vlan this 4000 switch ls it easy? how setup the trunk port in 4000 switch? I still have CatOS switches in my LAN; they

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread James Slepicka
they both wish to use us as a backup provider and wish to ONLY use our network if their primary provider (Cogent) is down. I'm currently doing this with Cogent and another provider. I get default routes from both and simply prepend my AS a few times on the backup connection. In your

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Jason Lixfeld
I have. There are no interface conditions on either of those debug [ip] packet commands. Also, debug interface doesn't allow me the option of my ATM interface(s). On 23-Sep-08, at 9:03 AM, Ozgur Guler wrote: Have you tried using debug ip packet or debug packet with debug condition

Re: [c-nsp] Debugging Cisco VPN Client Software ... Is it even possible ?

2008-09-23 Thread Luan Nguyen
Usually I find that client VPN log along with Concentrator log are enough. You could try to use Wireshark on the client machine for more detail information. Luan

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Fawcett Simon
My choice would be full routing tables from both ISP's, the customer to change his local pref on the backup link. if done correctly his own address space will not be advertised to the backup ISP as it would be advertised from the the backup ISP to the client. When the primary link fails the

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks to everyone for all the replies both offlist and onlist... quite a few of them! ;) Anyways, we're going to offer all three options to these customers - I want to put the control in their court which as Stephen and others have suggested. Then the responsibility is on the customer which

[c-nsp] Kevin White is out of the office.

2008-09-23 Thread Kevin . X . White
I will be out of the office starting 23/09/2008 and will not return until 02/10/2008. Please contact Marcus Burbidge x2510 or Peter Smith x6501 for any urgent issues ** This transmission is confidential and must not be used or

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread bill fumerola
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:23:16AM -0500, James Slepicka wrote: they both wish to use us as a backup provider and wish to ONLY use our network if their primary provider (Cogent) is down. I'm currently doing this with Cogent and another provider. I get default routes from both and simply

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks Bill... finally, 'down' can mean a lot of things and your customer needs to figure out if that means 'interface loss', 'loss across cogent' (frequent occurrence), 'latency spike', etc. in IOS, using IP SLA and a track object is probably the best way to implement those checks This is a

Re: [c-nsp] Debugging Cisco VPN Client Software ... Is it even possible ?

2008-09-23 Thread Drikus Brits
what kinda issues are you having ?i've rarely found a problem that required debugging and all... regards, On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 20:27 +0800, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: Hi all, From the _client_ perspective can anyone recommend any tools/techniques to debug Cisco VPN client problems ?

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Pete Templin
Paul Stewart wrote: What is common practice for this scenario? We would still prefer to just send a full table and put the control into their hands but I'm also concerned if they will have the technical expertise to accomplish this.. On their side, what would be common practice? I've been

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks Pete yeah, thought that through as well - been there done that ;) We'll offer them a full feed (well, all three options but I know they'll want a full feed I believe - that's what they get via Cogent as well) and then they can control everything - with communities as well on our side.

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Alex: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cisco-nsp- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, Alex Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:07 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface 0n Mon, Sep 22,

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dunn
Might this help if you get on 12.4(20)T: http://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/Tech_Insights:Utilizing_the_New_Packet_Capture_Feature On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:42:00AM -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote: I have. There are no interface conditions on either of those debug [ip] packet

Re: [c-nsp] Debugging Cisco VPN Client Software ... Is it even possible ?

2008-09-23 Thread Dan Wilson
C'mon Alex. You turn logging on on the client. Worst case you can look up the error messages on cisco.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, Alex Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:27 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject:

[c-nsp] Best bet 65 IOS for mcast?

2008-09-23 Thread Christian MacNevin
Hi Got a client running 33SXH1 in their network. Is SXF still the best bet for stable mcast? Or are there necessary widgets in SXH nowadays? It's a pair of 3BXLs with DFC'ed 6708s and 6748. Merci beaucoup Christian ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] Weird OSPF meltdown

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dunn
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 02:45:48AM -0300, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote: Every once in a while one of ME6524 routers starts getting hammered by one customer or the other... the symptom is that all adjacencies go down and stay stuck at EXCHANGE phase. hammered by what? CPU doesn't go up, and CoPP is

Re: [c-nsp] Debugging Cisco VPN Client Software ... Is it even possible ?

2008-09-23 Thread Justin Shore
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: Any hot tips with how to debug VPN clients not being able to connect into a vpn concentrator (from the _client_ perspective) ? Yes. Don't mix Vista with Cisco's VPN client. Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] c4000

2008-09-23 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 04:12:13AM +0100, Mario Spinthiras wrote: Wouldn't it be a lot wiser to migrate to IOS ? I know this is possible and I'm sure it's a step forward than anything else. Can anyone shed some light on the worthiness of migrating to IOS other than the obvious (consistency

[c-nsp] GVRP implementation

2008-09-23 Thread Mario Spinthiras
Hello All, Before planning a small deployment I wanted to know if any of you had made use of GVRP (via GARP) on production Cisco machines. Do they provide the same result as does VTP? Regards, Mario. http://www.blupenguin.com/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing

Re: [c-nsp] Weird OSPF meltdown

2008-09-23 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Rodney Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 02:45:48AM -0300, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote: Every once in a while one of ME6524 routers starts getting hammered by one customer or the other... the symptom is that all adjacencies go down and stay stuck

Re: [c-nsp] SXH3 ghost bugs - more details

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dunn
Gert, Seems they are not planning a special rebuild for this unfortunately. We are trying to get them to build a engineering special generally available for TAC if you have a SR open they should be able to get it. Sorry... Rodney On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:04:45AM -0400, Rodney Dunn wrote:

Re: [c-nsp] NPE-G2 Gigabit Ignored Errors

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dunn
Hank, Every time I've ever worked on this it's microburst. The only real way to fix it is a hardware forwarding box that can do packets at line rate gige. Rodney On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 09:38:26AM +0300, Hank Nussbacher wrote: At 02:43 PM 12-09-08 -0400, Rodney Dunn wrote: Rodney, On a

[c-nsp] Virtualization in an enterprise

2008-09-23 Thread Higham, Josh
I am currently investigating using vrf-lite within our company to support some research requests. I have some hesitation about maintaining it, though, especially in a smaller enterprise environment (4 network techs, ~10 branches). I am comfortable with the technology, but don't want to increase

[c-nsp] Virtualization in an enterprise

2008-09-23 Thread Higham, Josh
I am currently investigating using vrf-lite within our company to support some research requests. I have some hesitation about maintaining it, though, especially in a smaller enterprise environment (4 network techs, ~10 branches). I am comfortable with the technology, but don't want to increase

Re: [c-nsp] NPE-G2 Gigabit Ignored Errors

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dunn
That's only applicable if you have a lot of process switched traffic and you see input drops in 'sh int'. If you do see input queue drops and the throttle count in 'sh int' is going up you might be impacted by that bug. Rodney On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:21:41AM +0300, Hank Nussbacher wrote: At

Re: [c-nsp] Weird OSPF meltdown

2008-09-23 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
The problem with rate limiters is they will drop critical traffic (multicast OSPF) alongside multicast garbage from the customers. There is no hardware CoPP on the path of multicast traffic, so it's up to the CPU to survive such a flooding. Rubens On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Rodney Dunn

Re: [c-nsp] c4000

2008-09-23 Thread Lamar Owen
From: Gert Doering [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the cat4000 (as far as I know), you have no choice - it depends on the Supervisor version in use. Older ones are catos-only, newer ones are IOS-only. Only on the cat6500, you can choose. Another pointer:

[c-nsp] How does the egress PE determine which VRF the VPN label is for?

2008-09-23 Thread Andy Saykao
Given the scenario in which the packet has reached the egress PE, how does the router then determine which VRF the packet is destined for based on the remaining VPN label? I understand the concept of there being two labels, an IGP label and a VPN label. I'm just not sure how the egress PE is able

[c-nsp] Configure Cisco Ace using XML

2008-09-23 Thread Teller, Robert
I know it was possible to configure Cisco CSS devices by posting an xml file to them. After migrating from the CSS to the ACE module I will need to do the same thing but I am having problems finding example xml files. Anyone have anything that I could use to get started? Robert Teller

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Brandon Price
Could you guys recommend some good books or other documentation on some of these BGP best practice methodologies? I am a BGP novice but would like to get myself more up to speed on BGP kung fu. I found this current thread somewhat fascinating. Thanks Brandon -Original Message- From:

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Pete Templin
Brandon Price wrote: Could you guys recommend some good books or other documentation on some of these BGP best practice methodologies? I am a BGP novice but would like to get myself more up to speed on BGP kung fu. I found this current thread somewhat fascinating. That's a tough question to

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Andrew Gristina
The classics on BGP are Routing TCP/IP vol 1 and 2 by Doyle and Internet Routing Architectures by Sam Halabi. If you understand those, you understand enough to have some BGP kung fu. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Brandon Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you guys recommend some good books

Re: [c-nsp] How does the egress PE determine which VRF the VPN label is for?

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dunn
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 09:57:12AM +1000, Andy Saykao wrote: Given the scenario in which the packet has reached the egress PE, how does the router then determine which VRF the packet is destined for based on the remaining VPN label? I understand the concept of there being two labels, an IGP

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Tony Varriale
Try BGP Design and Implementation. It's the new BGP bible. ISBN: 1-58705-109-5 tv - Original Message - From: Brandon Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: cisco-nsp cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Re: [c-nsp] Conditional BGP

2008-09-23 Thread Mark Boolootian
2) View the NANOG presentation archives. Several come to mind; I'll try to compile a list of suggestions, or just browse away. Search the presentation archive for Smith and BGP. Philip Smith's BGP tutorials are outstanding. ___ cisco-nsp mailing

Re: [c-nsp] How does the egress PE determine which VRF the VPN label is for?

2008-09-23 Thread Andy Saykao
Argh worked it out. The VRF is seen if you include the detail in the command. PE2#sh mpls forwarding-table detail | begin _44169_ 44169 Aggregate 172.16.66.2/32[V] 5752 MAC/Encaps=0/0, MRU=0, Tag Stack{} VPN route: TEST No output feature configured This email and any

Re: [c-nsp] debugging all incoming traffic on an interface

2008-09-23 Thread Jason Lixfeld
It may, however it doesn't appear 12.4 is supported on the 2651. On 23-Sep-08, at 1:27 PM, Rodney Dunn wrote: Might this help if you get on 12.4(20)T: http://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/Tech_Insights:Utilizing_the_New_Packet_Capture_Feature On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:42:00AM

[c-nsp] multiple PPPOE sessions

2008-09-23 Thread Farhan Ali Khan
Dear All Is there any tester which can make multiple PPPOE sessions, need to test radius max limit concurrent sessions, I was searching for a software base solution for it since last night but I guess there is no software initiate for this purpose if any one knows either software which can

Re: [c-nsp] c4000

2008-09-23 Thread Farhan Ali Khan
Earlier switches run CATOS There is a difference between set base CLIs [CAT 4K] and normal CLIs commands [2960] For 2960 Vlan 10 Name engineering Interface x/x Switchportt access vlan 10 Or for trunk / Access Switchport mode access / trunk For CAT 4K