Re: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

2009-05-28 Thread Varaillon Jean Christophe
I doubt that you can do that... but if this is to influence your outgoing
traffic, then I would use local-preferences.

Christophe


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Subject: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

Hello All

Is their a way to remove the first AS number (not private) from an AS path?

For example we are receiving a route with AS PATH  123 456 456 456 and we
want to remove the 123 AS and put in the BGP table the route with AS 456 456
456 .

Thanks for your reply
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Re: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

2009-05-28 Thread masood
yup, you can't remove public AS from AS path. would you please share the
idea why you wana remove it :)

there are many other attributes to tweak bgp, y not u use them.

BR\\
Masood


 I doubt that you can do that... but if this is to influence your outgoing
 traffic, then I would use local-preferences.

 Christophe


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 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Michalis Palis
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:49 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

 Hello All

 Is their a way to remove the first AS number (not private) from an AS
 path?

 For example we are receiving a route with AS PATH  123 456 456 456 and we
 want to remove the 123 AS and put in the BGP table the route with AS 456
 456
 456 .

 Thanks for your reply
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Re: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

2009-05-28 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
Let's be more precise. There is no publicly known way to remove a
non-private AS number from AS-path on a device running Cisco IOS ... but you
could always adapt Quagga source code to your needs.

As pointed out by previous replies, tweaking AS-PATH is a really bad idea.
BGP has numerous other tools.

Ivan
 
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 From: mas...@nexlinx.net.pk [mailto:mas...@nexlinx.net.pk] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:56 PM
 To: Varaillon Jean Christophe
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH
 
 yup, you can't remove public AS from AS path. would you 
 please share the idea why you wana remove it :)
 
 there are many other attributes to tweak bgp, y not u use them.
 
 BR\\
 Masood
 
 
  I doubt that you can do that... but if this is to influence your 
  outgoing traffic, then I would use local-preferences.
 
  Christophe
 
 
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  [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
 Michalis Palis
  Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:49 AM
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH
 
  Hello All
 
  Is their a way to remove the first AS number (not private) 
 from an AS 
  path?
 
  For example we are receiving a route with AS PATH  123 456 
 456 456 and 
  we want to remove the 123 AS and put in the BGP table the 
 route with 
  AS 456
  456
  456 .
 
  Thanks for your reply
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Re: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

2009-05-28 Thread Dean Smith
This list does tend to focus on public internet issues and forget that BGP
is used in corporate or other non-internet environments that don't follow
nice conventions and after 15+ years of corporate take-overs,mergers and
demergers can often find situations where AS Paths need to be cleanedor
manipulated with something more flexible than a straight pre-pend. IOS
allows every other key BGP metric to be tweaked and we accept the risks that
brings - so this sort of manipulation of the AS-Path is long overdue.

Examples where I have had to dump BGP routes into an IGP for a hop and stick
them back into BGP with a clean AS-Path. :-

A) 2 independant organisations both use MPLS VPN from the same provider and
want to exchange routes across a private peering. The MPLS provider AS is in
the AS-Path on both sides and the provider drops routes. The provider
doesn't offer any of the provider side workarounds. 

B) 1 Organisation that has historically been a fully private network and has
some historic peerings that use non-private AS/non-registered AS now wants
to have a private peering with a proper public network. The AS-Path needs
to have the junk removed before the routes could be advertised. Yes the
historic networks should be migrated away but the fact is there is often no
resource and no money to do that when the workaround is simply another
Router.

C) Organisation wants to Dual Home to 2 ISPs at 2 locations for a new
internet service. It wants to use its private network for backhaul between
the sites but can't have free flow of routes between because if they
traverse the MPLS VPN they get the provider AS inserted in the path.

I don't intend to debate the abovethey happened and the solutions were
ratified by Cisco but in all cases manipulating the AS-Path (usually to
remove the MPLS provider public AS) would have been much much easier than
the final solutions. 

The summary is...BGP isn't just used on the Internet, and corporate networks
get messy when CEOs get ambitious (or fired).

Dean

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To: Varaillon Jean Christophe
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

yup, you can't remove public AS from AS path. would you please share the
idea why you wana remove it :)

there are many other attributes to tweak bgp, y not u use them.

BR\\
Masood


 I doubt that you can do that... but if this is to influence your outgoing
 traffic, then I would use local-preferences.

 Christophe


 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Michalis Palis
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:49 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Remove BGP AS path number number from an AS PATH

 Hello All

 Is their a way to remove the first AS number (not private) from an AS
 path?

 For example we are receiving a route with AS PATH  123 456 456 456 and we
 want to remove the 123 AS and put in the BGP table the route with AS 456
 456
 456 .

 Thanks for your reply
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