Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Stuart Ballard
Brian Jones wrote: I don't know if the FSF has characterized the OMG license as non-free yet. We can't include it but we're certainly free to point people at it. It's called 'javartf' and I still have a copy of it if someone wants it. I couldn't get into the ftp site just now myself. Surely if

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Ricky Clarkson
Hi, If software that is non-free is software that is not part of the GNU project, then Linux is non-free, and someone has somewhere defined free as being GNU. If you disallow links to software that itself provides links to non-free software, you are effectively trying to create your own separate

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Andrew Haley
Ricky Clarkson writes: If software that is non-free is software that is not part of the GNU project, False premise. then Linux is non-free, and someone has somewhere defined free as being GNU. Incorrect conclusion. Please see The Free Software Definition,

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Stuart Ballard
Andrew Haley wrote: FSF pages don't link to unfree software projects. It seems that OMG is not be an unfree software project, because Implementations of the OMG specifications - such as Object Request Brokers, IDL compilers, and UML-based modeling tools - are not produced by OMG. They are,

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Andrew Haley
Stuart Ballard writes: Andrew Haley wrote: FSF pages don't link to unfree software projects. It seems that OMG is not be an unfree software project, because Implementations of the OMG specifications - such as Object Request Brokers, IDL compilers, and UML-based modeling tools - are

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, To fix 3, the link must be removed entirely. If for some reason 3 doesn't need to be fixed (eg I'm misinterpreting GNU project policy), at least 1 and 2 should be. I think you are right. It is not a good idea to provide links to software of which we cannot (currently) guarantee that it is

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Stuart Ballard
Mark Wielaard wrote: I think you are right. It is not a good idea to provide links to software of which we cannot (currently) guarantee that it is Free Software. Could you provide a patch (source is in CVS module classpath under docs/www.gnu.org). Sure, I'll try to do this in the next couple of

Re: [really patch] Re: HashMap putAll/putAllInternal bug

2003-10-22 Thread Stuart Ballard
Eric Blake wrote: Sun seems to be blessing the use of hasNext() here, by not documenting that this should optimize to calling size(). Good point. Since this patch still hasn't been applied, this message is another attempt to try to figure out if there's any consensus about it. There have been

Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage

2003-10-22 Thread Brian Jones
Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Wielaard wrote: I think you are right. It is not a good idea to provide links to software of which we cannot (currently) guarantee that it is Free Software. Could you provide a patch (source is in CVS module classpath under docs/www.gnu.org).

Re: Implementing java.text

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Tromey
Dalibor == Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dalibor It makes my back-merging work harder, as kaffe already uses the Dalibor patches submitted by Guilhem to the Classpath bug tracker. See Dalibor http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=classpath for an overview. I'd Dalibor like to suggest

Re: classpath initialization

2003-10-22 Thread Patrik Reali
In Jaos, the ClassLoader is loaded but not really used (I'm still stuck with classpath 0.5) because I have my own native implementation which overrides the calls to Java's classloader in Class.fromName(). I'm currently upgrading my implementation to work with 0.6 by moving all the native stuff

Bug Report: unexpected IllegalArgumentException from java.text.DecimalFormat

2003-10-22 Thread Ito Kazumitsu
The attached program gives the following result: bash-2.05b$ java TestDecimalFormat 0.00% java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: unexpected special character - index: 4 Which is not the case with Sun's JDK. In the kaffe world, I applied the following patch: ---

Re: Bug Report: unexpected IllegalArgumentException from java.text.DecimalFormat

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Tromey
Ito == Ito Kazumitsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ito Which is not the case with Sun's JDK. Ito In the kaffe world, I applied the following patch: Could you make your test case suitable for Mauve? How about we give you mauve write access and then you can just check it in? And then you can check

Classpath and org.omg.*

2003-10-22 Thread Stephen Crawley
Folks, If all we have to do to keep GNU / FSF happy for now is to remove the link to the OMG from the website, lets just do it. I hardly think this is a major issue. In the long term though, there is a bigger problem looming. At some point, Classpath needs to support the org.omg.* classes.