Re: Bringing License arguments to Sun

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Gray
/OpenURL/PATPOL.pdf -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions BE0503765045 Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.k-embedded-java.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369

Re: Bringing License arguments to Sun

2006-08-20 Thread Chris Gray
On Sunday 20 August 2006 12:27, Simon Phipps wrote: On Aug 20, 2006, at 09:54, Chris Gray wrote: +1 to Stefano Mazzocchi: Noted, thanks. (and edited so I am making fair use of your copyrighted material - I don't want to get sued...) My cat can be vicious. :-) The specs should

Re: Unstructured locking bug

2005-03-14 Thread Chris Gray
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Re: Fosdem presentations and pictures

2005-03-06 Thread Chris Gray
On Sunday 06 March 2005 01:15, Tom Tromey wrote: Chris == Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Sounds like it was a great meeting, I'm sorry I didn't make it Chris due to illness. When's the next get-together? I know a few people (not me, but from gcj, Andrew Haley

Re: Fosdem presentations and pictures

2005-03-05 Thread Chris Gray
Hi all, Sounds like it was a great meeting, I'm sorry I didn't make it due to illness. When's the next get-together? Chris ___ Classpath mailing list Classpath@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

They're at it again.

2005-01-21 Thread Chris Gray
Time to write (don't email, fax it or deliver it yourself) to your minister of (wait for it) agriculture ... http://demo.ffii.org/cons0501/ http://ffs.or.at/themen/swpat/openletter_20041220 Thanks to Peter of Mind for the tip-off. ___ Classpath

Re: GTK peer switching JNIEnv *?

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Gray
bogus pointers to JNI, crashing is correct behaviour ... -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369 Visit us at Embedded World 2005 http://www.embedded

Re: FAQ, 4.1 OutOfMemoryException

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Gray
, and do a clean exit. -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369 Visit us at Embedded World 2005 http://www.embedded-world.de/ 22--24 Feb. 2005 at the Nürnberg

Re: FAQ, 4.1 OutOfMemoryException

2005-01-14 Thread Chris Gray
all threads [...] A VM with a mostly-concurrent GC might not conform to this model. Chris -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369 Visit us at Embedded

Re: Sleeping at FOSDEM (Was: [Fwd: FOSDEM: free sleeping and (wired) Internet in Leuven during fosdem 2005])

2005-01-13 Thread Chris Gray
or so sleeping places in Antwerp - more if people know eachother extremely well and/or think that sheepskins, hammocks, etc. are cool. -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: What are tainted developers allowed to work on?

2005-01-10 Thread Chris Gray
there. [...] the rest of us might [...] think you were working on a runtime for Ada or Occam or something. I'll add those to my list of code to merge into Kaffe, thanks :) Then all we need is an Ada- or Occam-to -j*av*-bytecode compiler. :) Cheers, -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions

Re: What are tainted developers allowed to work on?

2005-01-10 Thread Chris Gray
blah blah provided you don't blah blah. But my IANAL interpretation is that this notice can only grant you rights you wouldn't otherwise have - it doesn't (can't) take anything away. -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp

Re: What are tainted developers allowed to work on?

2005-01-09 Thread Chris Gray
? For those for whom there is only One True Language that might seem unambiguous, but the rest of us might be confused and think you were working on a runtime for Ada or Occam or something. Best wishes for 2005, -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi

Re: Which JVM?

2004-12-12 Thread Chris Gray
On Sunday 12 December 2004 12:29, Thomas Zander wrote: Kaffe: looks dead; last development release almost a year ago (not to mention stable releases) Rumours of Kaffe's death seem premature. On a typical day there are 5 or 6 commits to CVS, and a couple of human-to-human messages on the

Re: Memory leak in java.lang.Thread ?

2004-12-08 Thread Chris Gray
: Runtime.addShutdownHook() takes an initialised, but unstarted, Thread as parameter. Its complement, Runtime.removeShutdoenHook() has memory leak written all over it. Cheers Chris -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k

Re: bug 10491 was Re: More astonishing progress in japi scores

2004-10-07 Thread Chris Gray
not to add anything meaningful, but I just had to voice my support.) ME3 -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369

Re: redundant field initializers

2004-09-20 Thread Chris Gray
not be allowed to exist ... -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369 ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: license question

2004-07-20 Thread Chris Gray
? Is a class module, or would that be a package? Or a jar file maybe? I've written to the FSF asking for clarification, but those particular wheels do grind exceeding slow. Chris -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp

Re: license question

2004-07-20 Thread Chris Gray
the mailing list with too much legal speculation. Cheers -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369 ___ Classpath mailing

Re: A query on the classloader architecture

2004-07-12 Thread Chris Gray
I thought the third parameter had to be non-null. I should check the Java APIs before posting ... OTOH there are times where you want to call a method (getPackage(), findLibrary(), ...) of the appropriate classloader. Having a non-null bootstrap class loader would help here. -- Chris Gray

Re: A query on the classloader architecture

2004-07-11 Thread Chris Gray
. The application class loader loads classes from -classpath/$CLASSPATH, and is responsible for loading the application specified on the command line. Its parent is the extension class loader if this exists, the (Java) bootstrap class loader otherwise. Does that make more sense? Best wishes -- Chris Gray

Re: A query on the classloader architecture

2004-07-11 Thread Chris Gray
== null) { c = Class.forName(classname); } else { c = Class.forName(classname, false, cl); } Which gets tedious, real fast. :-{ Chris -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: A query on the classloader architecture

2004-07-09 Thread Chris Gray
authors of deviant VMs only need to modify their VMclasses. Best wishes -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369

Re: A query on the classloader architecture

2004-07-09 Thread Chris Gray
(which I don't have handy), but apparently the rest of the world is unanimous in using system class loader to mean the application class loader. Sorry for the confusion. -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGihttp://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL

java.security.KeyPairGenerator oddity

2004-06-10 Thread Chris Gray
are maddeningly vague as usual, but I _think_ that the default implementation should just throw an UnsupportedOperationException. BTW if anyone knows where to find a more useful description of how this stuff is supposed to work I'd be grateful for a pointer ... Best wishes -- Chris Gray

Re: ServiceFactory

2004-03-19 Thread Chris Gray
CustomClassLoader quite properly uses the default loadClass() implementation, Class c may be loaded by an ancestor. So your test needs to match myClassLoader, but also the transitive closure of getParent(). Have fun, -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions

Re: Query on stacktrace management logic

2004-03-13 Thread Chris Gray
On Saturday 13 March 2004 10:13, Patrik Reali wrote: --On Sonntag, 7. März 2004 16:02 +0100 Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2004 09:01, Jeroen Frijters wrote: David Holmes wrote: class Class is the first class that must be initialized [...] Given the wide

Re: Debugging acronyms

2004-03-13 Thread Chris Gray
ClassPrepareEvent. :) This gets me thinking about the possibility of running two VMs in one address space, one for the real VM and one for JPDA ... Chris -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL

Re: Query on stacktrace management logic

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Gray
there is no current Thread, and no Class instance can be created). So David's statement is probably pretty close to being true in a practical sense, as well as a JLS sense. -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k

Re: Free Java, the sequel

2004-03-11 Thread Chris Gray
the illusion that there is only one Java show in town, and it's owned by Sun. (*) And ESR's for that matter. Cheers Chris -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Query on stacktrace management logic

2004-03-10 Thread Chris Gray
for which it isn't true. Amen. Wonka [doesn't use Classbath [yet], but] currently loads five other classes before java.lang.Class; java.lang.Object, java.lang.Cloneable, java.lang.Serializable, java.lang.Throwable, and the mysterious array class. -- Chris Gray /k

Re: Free Java, the sequel

2004-03-08 Thread Chris Gray
On Thursday 04 March 2004 17:51, Per Bothner wrote: Chris Gray wrote: This is bizarre. IBM already has an open source version of Java (JikesVM), but perhaps Rod Smith is not aware of that. The VM is only a small part of Java. There are many open-source VMs, so that is not the main

Re: Free Java, the sequel

2004-03-08 Thread Chris Gray
On Thursday 04 March 2004 19:42, Tom Tromey wrote: Chris == Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris This is bizarre. IBM already has an open source version of Chris Java (JikesVM), but perhaps Rod Smith is not aware of that. Yeah. Chris Maybe we should write an open letter to the open

Re: Free Java, the sequel

2004-03-04 Thread Chris Gray
should write an open letter to the open letter writers? Confused, -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 3 216 0369

Re: Query on stacktrace management logic

2004-03-02 Thread Chris Gray
On Monday 01 March 2004 23:38, David Holmes wrote: Chris Gray wrote: I found one gotcha with using a pre-allocated OutOfMemoryError : if several threads throw OOME at the same time, the stack traces can get mixed up. This is one of our issues too. With no stacktrace you can share an OOME

Re: Query on stacktrace management logic

2004-03-01 Thread Chris Gray
is less improbable than you might think, since if one thread encounters an OOM situation, all other threads should encounter one too. With some forms of co-operative multi-threading you may get away with it, but in the general pre-emptive case you could be living dangerously. -- Chris Gray

Re: JIT pluggability (ABI Issues)

2004-01-13 Thread Chris Gray
On Monday 12 January 2004 21:28, Patrik Reali wrote: * class layout (do we really need this? I guess the fields are allocated in the row as they are declared) Some VMs may group all reference fields together, or try to pack fields smaller than 16 bits (boolean, byte, short, char). -- Chris

Re: JIT pluggability (GC Interface)

2004-01-12 Thread Chris Gray
471 94148 4). I hope this clarifies more than it confuses -Patrik --On Samstag, 10. Januar 2004 11:29 +0100 Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 09 January 2004 09:45, Sascha Brawer wrote: Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:48:59 -0700: [standard

Re: Serialization compatibility testing

2004-01-10 Thread Chris Gray
them in Wonka CVS under too/mauve/somewhere, or I could parcel them up and mail them to you; you might find some ideas you can use. [...] -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: JIT pluggability

2004-01-10 Thread Chris Gray
/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Revolution Action (was: Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution ison ; ))

2003-12-13 Thread Chris Gray
high. Best wishes, Chris On Friday 12 December 2003 22:49, Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 20:16, Chris Gray wrote: Given that we have only a part of the Embedded track, I would suggest that we do a group paper presenting the whole spectrum of Free / open VMs; maybe

Re: Revolution Action (was: Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution ison ; ))

2003-12-13 Thread Chris Gray
busy man (as are probably most of the other volunteer organisers). I think the developer room is a great idea, and I expect the organisers will be receptive. Best wishes -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http

Re: SystemClassLoader

2003-12-02 Thread Chris Gray
is that on interpreted systems it will tend to be a bit slower, which could be noticeable during start-up of an application. OTOH it's much cleaner and more flexible. -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k

Re: Revolution Action (was: Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution is on ; ))

2003-12-01 Thread Chris Gray
. Haven't heard from Jeroen recently ... I know someone who's doing research using Jikes RVM, maybe we could find someone from that group too. Best wishes -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k

Re: Revolution Action (was: Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution is on ; ))

2003-11-30 Thread Chris Gray
On Sunday 30 November 2003 20:05, Dalibor Topic wrote: Hi Chris, Chris Gray wrote: On Saturday 29 November 2003 13:48, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Why don't you try to make a keynote at the JavaPolis (maybe next year) in the Open Source hall. I'd love to. And the topic would be something

Re: Revolution Action (was: Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution is on ; ))

2003-11-30 Thread Chris Gray
Ahem. Maybe first type and then send? I'll talk to the organiser, Peter Vandenabeele, about this. We should be able to get more than just a BOF. Chris On Sunday 30 November 2003 20:05, Dalibor Topic wrote: Hi Chris, Chris Gray wrote: On Saturday 29 November 2003 13:48, Arnaud Vandyck

Re: [Little Off Topic] Revolution is on ;)

2003-11-29 Thread Chris Gray
alternative conference at a nearby location. In the meantime, is there anything planned for FOSDEM? E.g., an open-source Java track? This could be an opportunity the thesis that the future of Java lies with us, not with S*n. Up the workers, -- Chris Gray /k

Re: New homepage

2003-11-28 Thread Chris Gray
must know that's the most frustrating comment a webmaster can ever hear. Next to it's nice, but there are a few spelling mistakes. WHICH? WHERE? -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL

Re: [PATCH] Fix for Hashtable contains blowing up the stack

2003-11-28 Thread Chris Gray
interface. Hm, messy ... -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703 ___ Classpath

Re: GregorianCalendar fixes

2003-11-28 Thread Chris Gray
will happen with Java. True WORA for Java will arrive, but it will arrive through free software efforts like mauve GNU Classpath [2] that will provide the next reference platform. me2 -- Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi

Re: [PATCH] Field position attribute handling

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Gray
IMHO even should is going too far ... -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703 ___ Classpath

Re: VMInterface addition: Make native library names part ofVMInterface

2003-11-06 Thread Chris Gray
using BCEL, so you wouldn't actually need to modify the compiler ... -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703

Re: characters set's problem

2003-10-30 Thread Chris Gray
to define all your own libraries for manipulating the data, which probably is not what you want. ICU4J appears to be under the X licence, which is compatible with classpath's, so it should be possible to incorporate ICU4J into classpath. You could even lead the project. :) Best wishes -- Chris

Re: Classpath and org.omg.*

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Gray
Software But it would of course be incompatible with the GPL ... -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703

Re: classpath initialization

2003-10-21 Thread Chris Gray
/listinfo/classpath -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703 ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL

Re: Where to stay in Saarbruecken

2003-10-12 Thread Chris Gray
;) Dalibor, if you're organising a meal on Tuesday evening then count me in. Same goes for drinks tommorow (Monday) - send me an SMS on the number below. (I'll be leaving home sometime around noon, so email won't reach me after then). -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java

Where to stay in Saarbruecken

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Gray
Any accomodation tips anybody? I don't know Saarbruecken, and I guess it's best if we can all stay in the same kind of area ... I'm planning to arrive Monday evening and leave Wednesday afternoon. Regards -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded

Re: RFC: Spin Java petition

2003-10-06 Thread Chris Gray
On Monday 06 October 2003 18:03, Dalibor Topic wrote: Hi Chris, Chris Gray wrote: I was actually contemplating the idea of an open letter to Arnold Gosling. It wouldn't have looked like this petition though, much more like what Brian is saying. Spinning off Java into a business unit

Re: About stub methods

2003-09-30 Thread Chris Gray
on the ground? GDR -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703 ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: question about serialization

2003-08-05 Thread Chris Gray
will be rather small, the order doesn't matter, and all-powerful system classes have no effect on the end result; so opportunities for optimisation abound. -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL

Re: question about serialization

2003-08-04 Thread Chris Gray
by ClassLoader.getSystemClassLoader() (aaargh). -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703 ___ Classpath

Re: question about serialization

2003-08-04 Thread Chris Gray
On Monday 04 August 2003 11:02, Bryce McKinlay wrote: On Monday, Aug 4, 2003, at 19:57 Pacific/Auckland, Chris Gray wrote: Sure. But to call AccessibleObject.setAccessible() you need ReflectPermission, which the user code that initiated serialisation does not necessarily have. So

Re: question about serialization

2003-08-04 Thread Chris Gray
On Monday 04 August 2003 11:57, Jeroen Frijters wrote: Chris Gray wrote: Granting AllPermission to everything loaded by the system class loader is IMHO acceptable, *iff* by system class loader you mean the class loader which loads java.* classes from a trusted location

Re: [Rxtx] Implementing javax.comm for free software javaimplementations (Was: Re: [kaffe] Notes on kaffe (GNUClasspath integration) todo items)

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Gray
in that environment. So I'll probably stick with the Wonka implementation for that one, but check out rxtx for future projects. -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [kaffe] Notes on kaffe (GNU Classpath integration) todo items

2003-07-14 Thread Chris Gray
). For a project I'm working on currently it could be interesting to either convert the current Wonka implementation to JNI or switch to rxtx. Has anyone out there anyhing good or bad to say about rxtx? -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java

Re: [kaffe] Linux Kongress 2003 in Saarbruecken, Germany

2003-07-14 Thread Chris Gray
?) -- Chris Gray/k/ Embedded Java Solutions Embedded Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.kiffer.be/k/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 477 599 703 ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: More finalize woes

2003-03-06 Thread Chris Gray
not an argument against trivial finalizers provided for compatibility, but it it's a strong argument agains non-trivial finalizers where the public API has none: there's areal likelihood that someone will subclass your class and fail to invoke your finalizer. Regards -- Chris Gray VM Architect

Re: Method.equals() question

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Gray
object whatever class loader you use, whereas for user-defined class loaders there can be as many classes with a given name as there are class loader instances. -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Math patch

2003-02-28 Thread Chris Gray
constants. That's why one can sometimes get nostalgic for #define. :) -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: The Road to 1.0

2003-02-28 Thread Chris Gray
). My future is a bit open just now (I'm being downsized), but it's likely to feature VMs and/or open source. Who knows, I may one day find myself contributing to Classpath. :) Until then, many happy returns and copious congratulations! -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA

Re: Math patch

2003-02-28 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Dalibor Topic wrote: hi Chris, --- Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] SFAIK the only legitimate inlining a bytecode compiler can do is for static final constants. I doubt even that is safe, as http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/api/java/awt/event

Re: Math patch

2003-02-28 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Artur Biesiadowski wrote: Chris Gray wrote: Nonetheless, javac certainly used to do that, and I'm pretty sure it still does. (I could swear that the JLS actually specifies this behaviour, but I'm darned if I can find the words now.) 13.4.8 http

Re: Math patch

2003-02-28 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Chris Gray wrote: Know the feeling. ; It's got me thinking too though - I might at least instrument Wonka to find out what the size distribution of static methods is. If there are a lot of one-liners or empty(!) methods then there may be some low-hanging fruit

Re: Math patch

2003-02-27 Thread Chris Gray
(a) ((a) != (a)) ; -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Wonka Classpath

2002-11-10 Thread Chris Gray
the native and java parts of our peers. Replacing this with JNI has been on our to-do list for a long time, and it just got a goodly priority boost). Best wishes Chris Gray ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
README indicating this is not part of Classpath and when we compile we could link this library without trouble. I hope this explains what is meant by external library in reference to FSF projects. But if that is all you intend to do, isn't the current (BSD) licence good enough? Regards -- Chris

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
public and am surprised to read this wasn't the case with Transvirtual. Amen. There has been some off-list discussion of this, but I would expect any deal that is done to be done openly. -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
these peers as external libraries should not be a problem (for us or for FSF or for anyone). -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: JamaicaVM and GNU Classpath

2002-10-24 Thread Chris Gray
under the Classpath licence (GPL+exception) as well as the current BSD licence if this would help anybody. Regards -- Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: NEWS file for next release

2002-02-07 Thread Chris Gray
Bryce McKinlay wrote: I think that is not a bug, but rather an obscure C++ misfeature called trigraphs. Don't I recall reading in the index of some GNU manual (probably for gcc): ANSI Trigraphs You don't want to know about this particular braindamage. :) Chris Gray VM Architect

Re: NEWS file for next release

2002-02-07 Thread Chris Gray
Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 10:18, Chris Gray wrote: Don't I recall reading in the index of some GNU manual (probably for gcc): ANSI Trigraphs You don't want to know about this particular braindamage. :) Really funny. The gcc manual actually says

Re: Compiling with jikes 1.13

2002-02-06 Thread Chris Gray
of the VM - the Java stack frame will underflow, which is supposed to be impossible. When we encountered this problem Wonka actually threw a VirtualMachineError, but it could as well have segfaulted or caused foreign objects to fly out of Mark's ear. Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA

Re: Compiling with jikes 1.13

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Gray
, but found it was already a Known Bug (the inner-class constructor thing). 1.15 also barfed on some non-compile-time static finals in inner classes: on this issue we decided Jikes was right, and (hopefully) fixed our code. Regards Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA

Re: Compiling with jikes 1.13

2002-02-04 Thread Chris Gray
version after 1.12.1 (!). Problems includes: dumps core on valid input, outputs illegal bytecode (pushes pops do not balance) ... if you need more detail I can try to give it, but it will require a little work (download, compile, try to run, ...) Regards Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA

Re: State of AWT

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Gray
eight tests for GridBagLayout). Regards Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: State of AWT

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Gray
. That's why we say ``GPL-compatible''. Regards Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: State of AWT

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Gray
Currently out GPL compatibility [...] Of course I meant ``our'' ... ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: State of AWT

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Gray
Brian Jones wrote: Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, we have GridBagLayout. 8- (if you run the VisualTestEngine you'll see eight tests for GridBagLayout). We'll definitely need a test framework for the AWT stuff probably unlike anything in Mauve. Then you should definitely

Re: State of AWT?

2002-01-14 Thread Chris Gray
one to compile. Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: What classes used Wonka.

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Gray
the current licensing issues are sorted out. And where ist the big different between the GNU-Classpath-CLasses and Kaffe's Klasses.jar-CLasses? Why do not the two project fusion? I'll let someone else answer that ... Regards Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA

Re: What classes used Wonka.

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Gray
Brian Jones wrote: Wonka I don't know about really, but another oddity... Hey, who you calling oddity, you, you ... oddity. :) Chris ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: Simple Proposal

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Gray
should be able to recommend that if a Classpath class does 80% of what we need then we should do the remaining 20%, contribute it to Classpath, and use the result. Currently I would recommend that we do the 100%. Now call me an evil bastard. BG Regards Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA

Re: java.awt status LGPL - GPL?

2001-10-31 Thread Chris Gray
that our Rudolph is already much nearer to that target than any other code base you could use. Just don't everybody run away with the idea that the problem is already solved. Best wishes Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL

Re: java.awt status LGPL - GPL?

2001-10-31 Thread Chris Gray
(Following-up to my own post is a sign of what?) Chris Gray wrote: Secondly, although I responded positively to Mark's suggestions regarding GPL-compatibility, it is still possible that our management would decide that protecting our trademark is more important, and that it is essential

Re: Wonka

2001-10-29 Thread Chris Gray
Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi, On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:30:34AM +0200, Chris Gray wrote: I would also invite people to look at ACUNIA's Wonka VM, URL:http://wonka.acunia.com. Like IBM, we already developed our own class libraries, but a Classpath/Wonka hybrid would appear

Re: [hindm@us.ibm.com: Re: [Jikesrvm-researchers] Congratulations on Jikes-RVM 2.0 - questions about licensing.]

2001-10-26 Thread Chris Gray
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Re: Partial Double/Float merge with libgcj

2001-10-23 Thread Chris Gray
Tom Tromey wrote: Chris == Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris An interesting twist on this: jikes seems to have its own idea Chris of the correct bit-pattern for NaN (0xffc0 instead of Chris 0x7fc). This shouldn't matter if all NaN's are Chris canonicalized to the same

Re: Partial Double/Float merge with libgcj

2001-10-15 Thread Chris Gray
-pattern for NaN (0xffc0 instead of 0x7fc). This shouldn't matter if all NaN's are canonicalized to the same value. Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath

Re: Weird characters in java/lang/Character.java

2001-09-07 Thread Chris Gray
Etienne M. Gagnon wrote: Thanks. I have came to the same conclusion, using a small program looking for non-ASCII characters in all .java files. The real issue I had proved to be a Jikes 1.14 (on Debian?) problem, where many other files failed to compile for a different reason. It's

Re: Encoding name problems when running Jigsaw with ORP plus Classpat h

2001-07-31 Thread Chris Gray
class. 8859_1 is there, together with MacCroatian. The great thing about Java standards is , there's so many to choose from. :) Chris Gray VM Architect, ACUNIA ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

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