Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Artur Biesiadowski
Classpath seems to focus on japhar as main release/testing platform. I understand that japhar needs core library, but I don't think that it is best place to test it. Maybe kaffe could be used instead ? It is a lot more stable, faster, has free java library that can be used to fill gaps (in other

Re: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Paul Fisher
"John Keiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the idea of borrowing Kaffe's AWT (you didn't say it specifically, but it makes the most sense), simply because no one has worked on it here There are three GNU Classpath people actively working on an AWT implementation in GTK+ -- Jim Blair,

Re: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Godmar Back
Paul, For example, if I were to add a new GC to the GPL'd Kaffe, would I have to sign the copyright over to TVT in order to have my changes distributed with the official free version of Kaffe? And if I did assign my copyright to Transvirtual, could they then turn around and relicense

Re: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Godmar Back
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Fisher "John Keiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: un-splintering the community's resources. I really don't see the community's resources as being splintered. Transvirtual is working on their libs, and free

Re: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Godmar Back
Transvirtual is motivated by the fact that they can relicense their code base for proprietary use and modification -- they of course can't do that if they start accepting outside code. It is true that Transvirtual requires outside contributors to give up their copyright (and give it to

RE: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread John Keiser
I believe that once we port to Kaffe we will see cooperation on the class libraries. I am curious, though, what specifically have we done better? The only thing I can think of is that our stuff has more doc comments ... and we have 1.2 java.util. I do suggest that whoever works on AWT look at

Re: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Godmar Back
Artur Biesiadowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe kaffe could be used instead ? It is a lot more stable, faster, has free java library that can be used to fill gaps (in other case we need to fill gaps with JDK classlib). One of the great benefits of using Japhar is that we're

Re: Kaffe as main target ?

1998-10-21 Thread Paul Fisher
Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As mentioned in my other mail, contributors to classpath are also not allowed to retain their copyright if they want their contributions to go into the classpath source. The FSF's assignment policy's main purpose is to ensure that all versions of a GNU

RE: Correction of Misunderstandings

1998-10-21 Thread John Keiser
Ah, OK, makes sense. Thanks for the correction of my correction :) --John Keiser -Original Message- From: Godmar Back [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 2:04 PM To: John Keiser Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Correction of

Re: recent checkin of lib

1998-10-21 Thread Paul Fisher
Brian Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guile is back into developmental state, so use the most recent stable version which I _think_ is 1.91 (but I'm just pulling that out of my...) if you're wanting to do the testsuite stuff. You don't mean 1.91. You mean 1.2.91. :) The latest stable

Re: Free Java @ JavaOne 1999

1998-10-21 Thread Anthony Green
Tim wrote: Don't know if anyone else is looking into this but we'd like to put together a free Java BOF at the coming JavaOne and obviously it'd make sense to get all the free Java people together for this. Any interest? Yes, absolutely. AG -- Anthony Green

RE: Free Java @ JavaOne 1999

1998-10-21 Thread Brian Low
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Re: Free Java @ JavaOne 1999

1998-10-21 Thread toshok
Tim Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't know if anyone else is looking into this but we'd like to put together a free Java BOF at the coming JavaOne and obviously it'd make sense to get all the free Java people together for this. We've tried to do this informally the last two years

Re: Free Java @ JavaOne 1999

1998-10-21 Thread Per Bothner
Sounds reasonable. One format is 5-10 presentation from each group, followed by 5-10 minutes questions to a specific group, followed by open floor. However, 60 minutes in length may not be enough for all the groups. Two back-to-back sessions would be better, if we could get it. Alternatively,

RE: Free Java @ JavaOne 1999

1998-10-21 Thread Regier Avery J
I'm definitely interested. My suggestion would be to make sure that this BOF is as near the beginning of the conference as possible. This will help us to have the maximum amount of time available during the conference with which to collaborate with each other, since we will have already met