There is a size limit on methods on the jVM.
partial-evaluator would be a cool project, I think.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Tim Daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote:
Could the compiler insert phantom method bodies around classes?
Or does the JVM insist that you can't lie about the code
In any Lisp, I think parens are for the compiler and indentation is
for humans.
Regards,
Shantanu
On Aug 19, 10:20 am, Rayne disciplera...@gmail.com wrote:
It isn't helpful at all to me. My eyes bleed when I see code written
like that.
It may be helpful to some people, but I don't see the
I'm not trying to start a language war, especially since Clojure is
trying to
be both a Java and a Lisp. This is more of a user experience report.
I'd be more interested in hearing about your experiences and where you
find an impedance mismatch than having a Lisp vs Java discussion.
Where do you
+1Dalvik compiler
On 19 août, 02:52, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote:
Or a native dalvik compiler!
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Or a Clojure to Javascript compiler. So many interesting projects!
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In which situation nil is not treated as false in Clojure?
If I understand well, Clojure separates nil/false from (). In
particular, if you use next and not rest, your iteration
example will work if translated into Clojure.
empty? works in all case and is not ugly either.
For the java typing
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Tim Daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote:
I am trying to understand why lisp is more productive (for me) than java.
Let me go off at a bit of a tangent and then I'll answer some of your questions.
First off, I currently do mostly web application development and
I'm trying to compile a program, with source files as follows.
com/minibar/PmsSimulator.clj -- containing these lines:
(ns com.minibar.PmsSimulator
(:require [com.minibar :as mb] ...etc)
(:load pmssim/util ...etc)
(:gen-class))
...etc
where the file com/minibar/pmssim/util.clj contains
Hi,
On 19 Aug., 13:05, timc timgcl...@gmail.com wrote:
com/minibar/PmsSimulator.clj -- containing these lines:
(ns com.minibar.PmsSimulator
(:require [com.minibar :as mb] ...etc)
(:load pmssim/util ...etc)
(:gen-class))
...etc
where the file com/minibar/pmssim/util.clj contains
Armando~
Libraries that target JRE 1.2 compatibility, will not call
`Boolean.valueOf(var)` internally. Instead they will call `new
Boolean(var)`. If they return those results to modern java code, it will
unbox correctly into either true or false and thus work as expected in
constructs of the
Just came across this problem on RC3.
Here is a fix:
diff --git a/src/jvm/clojure/lang/RT.java b/src/jvm/clojure/lang/RT.java
index 9aea629..5e67449 100644
--- a/src/jvm/clojure/lang/RT.java
+++ b/src/jvm/clojure/lang/RT.java
@@ -678,7 +678,11 @@ static public Object contains(Object coll, Object
Thanks everyone for the your answers (and the internal debates). I
will not put closing parenthesis on new lines. Even though the editor
helps me with the parenthesis, there have been situations - while
editing inside functions - that I had to count them. Here is an idea
(by Harold A.), I will
Great plugin- thanks steve
i applied your patch but still throws on clojure.main and on some
(import '(java.util.concurrent
MHOOO's code above seems to resolve my errors.
thanks -doug
On Aug 18, 1:44 pm, MHOOO thomas.karol...@googlemail.com wrote:
I can get rid of those errors by evaling
You should look at Clojure 1.2 protocols and records which provides an easy
way to do polymorphism on types.
See http://clojure.org/protocols.
On 18 August 2010 08:25, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the easiest way to port OO code would be to use Clojure's
A few remarks:
## begin
(defn f-to-seq[file]
(with-open [rdr (java.io.BufferedReader.
(java.io.FileReader. file))]
(doall (line-seq rdr
Do you need the doall?
(defn str-sort[str]
(if (nil? str)
str
(String. (into-array (. Character TYPE) (sort str)
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Tim Daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote:
Televisions vs Monitors.
This is the whole point of deftype/defrecord and protocols. To get the
absolute best performance of the platform without having the pollute your
code with type information. For example prior
Hi,
here my turn. Comments inline. Hope this helps.
Sincerely
Meikel
(defn f-to-seq
[file]
(with-open [rdr (java.io.BufferedReader.
(java.io.FileReader. file))]
(doall (line-seq rdr
; Yes. doall is required here. Alternatively you can wrap the whole
thing
; in
David Nolen wrote:
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mailto:d...@axiom-developer.org wrote:
Televisions vs Monitors.
This is the whole point of deftype/defrecord and protocols. To get the
absolute best performance of the platform without having the
+1 on Dalvik compiler :)
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Meikel's suggestions are all good and I would follow them.
There are a number of built-in functions you can take advantage of if
you're using 1.2 (they're also available in contrib for 1.1):
clojure.string/lower-case
clojure.java.io/reader -- obviates java.io.BufferedReader and friends:
(reader
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Steve Purcell st...@sanityinc.com wrote:
I guess Phil's very busy, but if he can apply this patch, then the regular
swank-clojure 1.3.0-SNAPSHOT on clojars should end up containing the fix.
Just applied this patch and pushed to github and clojars. Thanks!
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Allen Johnson akjohnso...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 on Dalvik compiler :)
This might be kind of boring--I suspect you'd just have to port the
asm library that Clojure depends on to Dalvik. I wonder if there's not
already an effort started to do this, since Clojure's
On Aug 18, 3:26 pm, Nicolas Oury nicolas.o...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no law. Do what is best for you.
But there OUGHT to be a law.
Adam
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meeting tonight (Thurs) at:
FGM
12021 Sunset Hills Road Suite 400
Reston, VA
Pizza and other refreshments will be served at 6:15 PM, and the
presentations will begin at about 6:30 PM.
We would love to have any and all who can make it,
On Aug 16, 3:55 am, ngocdaothanh ngocdaoth...@gmail.com wrote:
I have used Erlang's gen_fsm and like it very
much:http://erlang.org/doc/design_principles/fsm.html
I want to write a game in Clojure and I need a FSM library (best if it
supports timeout event). I would like to ask if there is
Well, courtesy of HN the cat's out of the bag:
http://first.clojure-conj.org/
What is the ballpark price? I think this would help a lot of people
determine if they can go.
Also, will there be cake? If this is Clojure's birthday party, there
had better be cake.
Just sayin'
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I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
http://clojure.org/downloads
For maven/leiningen users, your settings to get the beta from
build.clojure.org/releases are:
:dependencies [[org.clojure/clojure 1.2.0]
[org.clojure/clojure-contrib 1.2.0]
This
Congratulations! Thanks to everybody who worked on this masterpiece.
Best. Language. Ever.
On Aug 19, 10:25 am, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
http://clojure.org/downloads
For maven/leiningen users, your settings to get the
Well, courtesy of HN the cat's out of the bag:
http://first.clojure-conj.org/
What is the ballpark price? I think this would help a lot of people
determine if they can go.
Attendee pricing will be designed to cover attendee costs for running the
event, plus a little margin for error. So
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I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
Woohoo! Time to party and then port all the 13k lines of Clojure code
that we have written so far to 1.2.
Awesome work, Rich co.
Clojure rocks!
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Hi,
On 19 Aug., 17:25, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
this is a great achievement. Congratulations to all involved and
thank you!
For us it the release is just on time. We will finish our book /
tomorrow/ and I had been
Congrats! :-D
BTW, the link to clojure-contrib-1.2 seems to be broken (currently returning
404):
http://github.com/downloads/clojure/clojure/clojure-contrib-1.2.0.zip
Was RC3 the final build? I couldn't find the answer in the release notes.
Cheers,
Greg
On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Rich
http://clojure.github.com/clojure
http://clojure.github.com/clojure-contrib
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Congrats and Cheers, :-)
2010/8/19 Greg g...@kinostudios.com:
Congrats! :-D
BTW, the link to clojure-contrib-1.2 seems to be broken (currently returning
404):
http://github.com/downloads/clojure/clojure/clojure-contrib-1.2.0.zip
Was RC3 the final build? I couldn't find the answer in the
Hi,
On 19 Aug., 17:56, Greg g...@kinostudios.com wrote:
http://github.com/downloads/clojure/clojure/clojure-contrib-1.2.0.zip
I would expect this to be:
http://github.com/downloads/clojure/clojure-contrib/clojure-contrib-1.2.0.zip
Sincerely
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Congratulations!!
I am very happy with 1.2, as everybody I think. Great improvements to
my favorite language.
Your announcement got me curious: what are the future call linkage improvements?
Thanks to all of you, it's great.
Best,
Nicolas.
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I use Ctrl+D. But I am on Linux.
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Congratulations!
Just as a heads-up, the download link for Clojure Contrib on
http://clojure.org/downloads is currently broken. It's pointing to:
http://github.com/downloads/clojure/clojure/clojure-contrib-1.2.0.zip
.. when I'm guessing it should be:
Link fixed, thanks.
Clojure 1.2 is RC3, but for the metadata change to remove the RC3 part. The
changes.txt notes this, but for some reason my git branch tracking 1.2.x isn't
pushing. I just pushed it explicitly.
Stu
Congrats! :-D
BTW, the link to clojure-contrib-1.2 seems to be broken
I copy that. Thanks for the explanation.
On Aug 18, 1:22 pm, Matt Fowles matt.fow...@gmail.com wrote:
Armando~
Libraries that target JRE 1.2 compatibility, will not call
`Boolean.valueOf(var)` internally. Instead they will call `new
Boolean(var)`. If they return those results to modern
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rich Hickey wrote:
I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
A huge milestone. Thanks, Rich, and to everyone else that has helped,
fretted, argued, and worked to make Clojure and its community what it
is today. I can't wait to see what
Woohoo, congrats! Can't wait to see all the new goodies that are in
store for the next version.
Justin
On Aug 19, 11:25 am, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
http://clojure.org/downloads
For maven/leiningen users, your settings
Again, that's quite a straw man--the attached code uses tabs for
indentation, (ick!) and you're viewing it with a different tab-stop
setting
Whoops, you're right, it was an honest mistake on my part. I use tabs of size 4
and the tab-stop used there was 8 I believe.
This issue is making me
Brian Goslinga quickbasicg...@gmail.com writes:
Here is another trick that works for me in Emacs: delete most of the
stack of closing parens, and then spam the ) key until the Emacs
matches it to the desired opening paren. I can't remember a time that
I had to manually count the parens when
What a day for Clojure!
If anyone wants more information than what's available in Rich's
links, then you can view the slides for a talk I'm giving tonight:
http://fogus.me/static/preso/clj1.2+/
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Yet another one for Emacs users that don't use paredit:
I have Paren Match Highlighting enabled and set to highlight the
entire expression within matching parens (the highlighting kicks in
when the cursor is before the opening paren or after the closing
paren):
(show-paren-mode 1)
(setq
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pleased to announce today the release of Clojure 1.2.
http://clojure.org/downloads
For maven/leiningen users, your settings to get the beta from
build.clojure.org/releases are:
:dependencies
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Patrick Moriarty
pmoria...@annadaletech.com wrote:
You should look at Clojure 1.2 protocols and records which provides an easy
way to do polymorphism on types.
See http://clojure.org/protocols.
Protocols don't offer inheritance. The original poster
A big part of inheritance can be done by using defrecord, keywords and
functions instead of method, and getting read of the abstract class.
(defrecord Orange [:mass :energy :juice])
(defrecord Apple [:mass :energy :juice : family])
(defn get-juice [fruit] (:juice fruit))
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On Aug 19, 1:12 pm, Jeff Brown j...@jeffandbetsy.net wrote:
When should 1.2.0 be available
athttp://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/clojure/clojure/?
We don't have a direct sync to Maven central. They don't seem to be
giving those out anymore. So someone with the authority will have to
upload it
In case you haven't heard, here's the official story:
http://first.clojure-conj.org/
Clojure Conj 2010 will be held in Durham, North Carolina on October 22
and 23.
We are currently collecting emails of people interested in attending.
If you plan on attending, please submit your email at the
Damon reply to me and not the list, so I forward.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Damon Snyder drsny...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nicolas,
Thanks for the suggestions. Regarding the first one: ah, I see. That
is a nice compact way to test to see if the str is nil. I added that
I reckon that
I think I can do that - or at least push that along. Will check into it
when I get to the office in about 30 minutes.
PS: Direct sync to central is easy via oss.sonatype.org repositories.
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Hi.
Am 19.08.2010 um 22:14 schrieb Nicolas Oury:
in because I was getting null pointer exceptions when the string was
null. What is the difference between {:count 1 :words (list words)}
and a hash-map? I was under the impression that {} created a hash.
I just find it easier to read because
Hi, Does clojure have docstrings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docstring
and, if so, do you have a link to the feature in the Clojure
documentation? Thanks.
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(defn function-name
Your docstring goes here
[your argument list more]
(call some functions))
2010/8/19 Paddy3118 paddy3...@googlemail.com:
Hi, Does clojure have docstrings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docstring
and, if so, do you have a link to the feature in the Clojure
I use Ctrl-D on linux, but Ctrl-C works too, and is what I would try
first on Windows.
(System/exit 0) won't work if you're using leiningen to get your repl,
because it passes I/O through JLine and System.exit terminates the
clojure process without notifying the JLine process:
$ lein repl
user=
I want to multiply a list of n items by h lists of n items, so that
for example if i have list 'a' and 'b'
(def a (list 1 2 3))
(def b (list '(4 5 6) '(7 8 9)))
when multiplied I will get:
((4 10 18) (7 16 27))
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I want to multiply a list of n items by h lists of n items, so that
for example if i have list 'a' and 'b'
(def a (list 1 2 3))
(def b (list '(4 5 6) '(7 8 9)))
when multiplied I will get:
((4 10 18) (7 16 27))
user= (def a [1 2 3])
#'user/a
user= (def b [[4 5 6] [7 8 9]])
#'user/b
user= (map #(map * a %) b)
((4 10 18) (7 16 27))
- Will Morgan
On Aug 19, 7:56 pm, Glen Rubin rubing...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to multiply a list of n items by h lists of n items, so that
for example if i have list 'a'
Or if you want to avoid the #(...%...) syntax:
user= (def a (list 1 2 3))
#'user/a
user= (def b (list '(4 5 6) '(7 8 9)))
#'user/b
user= (map (partial map * a) b)
((4 10 18) (7 16 27))
On Aug 19, 4:56 pm, Glen Rubin rubing...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to multiply a list of n items by h lists of n
On Aug 19, 4:37 pm, Joop Kiefte iko...@gmail.com wrote:
(defn function-name
Your docstring goes here
[your argument list more]
(call some functions))
And then you can access it with (doc function-name).
(find-doc #regexp) or (find-doc string) searches all doc strings.
There is
Hello! -- Here's a how-to question for subprocess and threading
experts. What's the right way to obtain an output stream for stdout
from a subprocess, and read it lazily?
At the moment, there's the sh function, but this collects all the
output from the stdout and stderr streams into arrays, and
Hello everyone. Clojure noob here. I apologize in advance for what
may turn out to be a dumb question. When trying to (use
'[clojure.contrib.seq]) I get the following error:
java.io.FileNotFoundException: Could not locate clojure/contrib/
seq__init.class or clojure/contrib/seq.clj on
So it is before arguments. What is the motivation behind that
opposition to other lisps and python ?
On 19 août, 22:37, Joop Kiefte iko...@gmail.com wrote:
(defn function-name
Your docstring goes here
[your argument list more]
(call some functions))
2010/8/19 Paddy3118
Are you guys interested in me presenting/speaking about my clojure
refactoring tool at this conference?
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This should work:
(defn mult-list-by-lists [a b]
(let [mult-lists (fn [x y] (map * x y))]
(map #(mult-lists a %) b)))
On Aug 19, 5:56 pm, Glen Rubin rubing...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to multiply a list of n items by h lists of n items, so that
for example if i have list 'a' and 'b'
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Ameen amy...@gmail.com wrote:
So it is before arguments. What is the motivation behind that
opposition to other lisps and python ?
Functions support mutiple arity.
(defn foo
...
([a] ...)
([a b] ...))
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Hello everyone. Clojure noob here. I apologize in advance for what
may turn out to be a dumb question. When trying to (use
'[clojure.contrib.seq]) I get the following error:
java.io.FileNotFoundException: Could not locate
Hello.
I noticed we have a list of user groups at http://clojure.org/community
Could we add Seajure (Seattle Clojure Group) at http://seajure.technomancy.us?
Thanks,
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I just pushed out a new release of Leiningen, a Clojure build tool,
with lots of help from many contributors.
This adds a couple new tasks (test! and interactive) and the ability to chain
tasks. It also allows for user-level init scripts and user-level plugins, so you
don't have to declare things
I just pushed out a new release of Leiningen, a Clojure build tool,
with lots of help from many contributors.
In the subject, I am sure you meant [ANN] Leiningen 1.3.0 released :)
Nevertheless, great work!
Regards,
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You might consider some kind of whole-program optimizations along
the lines of the Stalin compiler for Scheme. Stalin compiles Scheme to
C and makes a lot of representation decisions, unboxing, as well as a
lot of call-stack-aware memory allocations/deallocations. Not all of
these would be
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I just pushed out a new release of Leiningen, a Clojure build tool,
with lots of help from many contributors.
Looks great. A couple early observations/issues,
1) It's no longer possible to start a REPL w/o a project.clj
(defn foo
...
([a] ...)
([a b] ...))
Is there any way to add docstring for each case? (One for summary, one
for [a], and one for [a b].)
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Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Shantanu Kumar
kumar.shant...@gmail.com wrote:
Would suggest to consider this:
(let [ x (true? (new java.lang.Boolean false)) ] (if x trouble
ok))
Ah, but that wouldn't work for a new Boolean set to true:
Hi Meikel, Nicolas, and Justin,
Thank you for the great feedback! I learned a lot. I was puzzled about
(update-in (update-in)) and after doing that the - operator makes a
lot of sense. The reduce is clever and fits nicely as well.
I dropped the function that read in the lines of the file and used
Hi,
On 20 Aug., 07:18, ngocdaothanh ngocdaoth...@gmail.com wrote:
(defn foo
...
([a] ...)
([a b] ...))
Is there any way to add docstring for each case? (One for summary, one
for [a], and one for [a b].)
No. (And honestly: I don't see any use for this. Why is one docstring
not
Hi,
On 20 Aug., 01:56, Glen Rubin rubing...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to multiply a list of n items by h lists of n items, so that
for example if i have list 'a' and 'b'
(def a (list 1 2 3))
(def b (list '(4 5 6) '(7 8 9)))
when multiplied I will get:
((4 10 18) (7 16 27))
And just to
Hi,
On 19 Aug., 23:43, Alan a...@malloys.org wrote:
Ctrl-C works too, and is what I would try first on Windows.
Ctrl-C is a rather hard way to shutdown things. Compare to turning off
the computer without flushing the disk caches. With JLine Ctrl-D also
works on Windows.
Sincerely
Meikel
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