On 18 Jan 2010, at 11:23, Konrad Hinsen konrad.hin...@fastmail.net
wrote:
On 18.01.2010, at 12:03, Alex Ott wrote:
I have a question to Rich - are there plans to introduce named
loop/recur? In Scheme it very handy to create named let, and
create nested
loops. Currently in Clojure, I
On 29 Dec 2009, at 04:14, jim wrote:
Had an interesting conversation with a programmer friend of mine. He's
skeptical of my Lisp leanings and mostly sticks to the 'normal'
languages; C++, Java, etc.
I made that comment that pretty much all the languages derived from
Algol like the C
As for Ten parentheses, i do not see a single one. Noone notices
starting parens because they are markers saying this is a function.
And of course noone notices ending parens because they are for your
IDE, not for the human.
This is I like, I'd never thought about S-exprs this way
On 20 Dec 2009, at 07:27, ajay gopalakrishnan wrote:
Precedence is an overrated thing. You dont run into that issue every day.
Yeah, only every time you write a simple mathematical expression. And how often
does that happen when you're programming?!
Martin
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On 20 Dec 2009, at 06:51, ajay gopalakrishnan wrote:
Yes, Martin, please give it a try. Only then can we know if the parenthesis
is real issue or not. There is no point arguing about it. The only
disadvantage is that, over time, people will forget that it is actually a
list. But, hey, if
On 20/12/2009 5:39 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
It's better if we can support both. It's never one size fits all.
Who is we?
If you're talking about something *you* want, you can go build it…
I see Clojure is well on the way to building a community at least as
repellingly exclusionary as all
On 20 Dec 2009, at 19:30, Luc Préfontaine wrote:
That's a concise and clear way to summarize the issue.
If you compare the IDE support required for different languages, the support
required to write syntactically correct Clojure code is pretty small compared
to others.
I like Clojure, I
It is proudly a Lisp for people that want to get things done. Any
Java/.NET/Python/Brainfuck/Ruby/Basic/C/C++ (No Perlmongers :)) that
want to get better are welcome. However, there is a way things are
done in the language, driven by the underlying problems reality
imposes on
On 19 Dec 2009, at 13:50, Stefan Kamphausen wrote:
Hi,
On 18 Dez., 20:07, Martin Coxall pseudo.m...@me.com wrote:
One of the things that always puts people off of Lisp, as we all know, are
the parentheses.
one of the things that always put Lispers off is this same question.
I have
I guess it's mostly a matter of judging a language by its long-term
merits instead of initial appearance -- just like with so many other
things in life.
That - right there - is a tacit admission that the Clojure community will find
it actively desirable that it remain a minority language,
On 18 Dec 2009, at 06:42, Mike Meyer mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:44:02 -0500
Luc Préfontaine lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
Mike, I think that the whole issue about Lisp creates a big cloud
about
Clojure.
Yes, it does. When I mention
I had this thought at work, when I should have been working, so please bear
with me if it's nonsense.
One of the things that always puts people off of Lisp, as we all know, are the
parentheses. Now, many ways have been suggested of doing this in other Lisps,
but have never taken off, mainly
On 19 Dec 2009, at 00:29, Mark Engelberg wrote:
The main downside of such an approach is that if you copy and paste
your code to a new context in which it has a different level of
indenting, it's very easy to screw things up. You then have no way to
re-indent the code without fully
On 19 Dec 2009, at 00:53, Sean Devlin wrote:
What you're looking for is called Python.
The parens are your friend. Learn to love them. They are there to
remind you that you're building a data structure, not just writing
code.
Sean
As it happens, I agree with you: I learned to stop
On 17 Dec 2009, at 10:04, Dmitry Kakurin wrote:
Please keep in mind that it is almost literally the speech that I give
to my friends/colleagues when they ask me why am I so excited about
Clojure. I did it many times now and I have quickly learned that
saying persistent data structures gets
Tim Bray starts with the delightfull forthright Clojure is the best
Lisp ever! and then goes on to explain why the JVM's current lack of
hard tail calls don't matter.
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/12/01/Clojure-Theses
Interesting, and certainly confirms my own prejudices about
On Nov 25, 2:59 pm, Konrad Hinsen konrad.hin...@fastmail.net wrote:
On 25.11.2009, at 15:32, jim wrote:
That's exactly what it is. I used the continuation monad from
clojure.contrib.monads. After I get the code out, I'll be writing a
tutorial on how it works which will also explain the
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