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Thanks for the report. It's already fixed on Clojure master. -S
On Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:58:54 PM UTC-4, Tom Hicks wrote:
But note that Larry's extra quote came directly from the
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Not all of the new contrib libs have been released yet. For the ones that
have been released, you can find the .jar files here:
http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/clojure/
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Clojure doesn't have a formal roadmap beyond the next release, but future
plans will likely involve writing more of the Clojure compiler in Clojure
itself, to make it easier to enhance the compiler and port it to other
platforms.
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Yes, that is the latest source.
One JAR has been released to the Maven Central Repository:
http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/clojure/data.finger-tree/0.0.1/
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Anything implemented with multimethods (contrib.generic) will be slow
compared to primitives and Java methods invoked on primitives. Also try out
the better primitive math ops in the 1.3.0-alphas.
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No. Clojure template (which I wrote) is a backwards way of doing macros. It
happens to be useful in clojure.test, but nowhere else.
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. Both are useful, and I'd
like to see versions of all the core functions that support both
modes.
Thanks for taking this on!
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1.3 is not even beta yet, so still a long way from final. In the latest
snapshots, :dynamic is no longer added automatically, but it still prints a
warning.
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If you're referring to clojure-contrib in its current, monolithic form, it
is all deprecated. New development is happening in new, per-library
repositories at http://github.com/clojure
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It's definitely not caused by the generics: they're a fiction of javac, and
Clojure ignores them completely.
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, string, and
test.
In new contrib we already have tools.logging, tools.macro, java.jmx,
data.json, core.unify, tools.nrepl, data.finger-tree, and data.xml.
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of the (many) implementations of threading operators more complex than the
built-in - and -.
Also, contrib as a monolithic thing is being phased out in favor of
separate repositories dedicated to individual libraries.
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Unfortunately, there is no JavaDoc for clojure.lang because there are no
comments in the source. If you want to understand Clojure's Java source
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clojure.contrib.profile is kind of a hack, I wouldn't rely on it for
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The domain was set to auto-renew, there was just a hiccup with our domain
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first-class, although I'm
not sure if this feature will be included. See
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You can omit clojure.core/first from your namespace like this:
(ns your.namespace
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Users of your library could do the same, and also `(:use your.namespace)` to
have access to your alternate definition of `first`.
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`add-classpath` works only in very limited circumstances. It breaks in most
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Java IDE or a servlet container.
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qualified class name) or lists (package name followed by 1 or more class
names). The fact that vectors also work in `import` is an implementation
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Looks like that bit is not finished yet. See
http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Enhanced+Primitive+Support under hash
maps and sets now use = for keys
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Take a look at http://www.stringtemplate.org/ for a Turing-complete,
purely-functional, Java-based template language designed for code
generation.
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clojure.contrib.json (or the new clojure.data.json) has an option to *not*
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default, but I was out-shouted.
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= (def m {1 10 2 20})
#'user/m
user= (m 2)
20
user= (m (long 2))
20
user= (type 2)
java.lang.Long
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top layer.
This helps with the one hard-and-fast rule of Clojure namespaces: no
circular dependencies. If namespace A depends on namespace B, then
namespace B cannot depend on namespace A.
For naming, the Java package convention is pretty good at avoiding
conflicts.
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for a list.
Old clojure-contrib has not had a release since 1.3.0-alpha4. New
releases, to anywhere, are a low priority. -alpha4 is source-compatible
with Clojure 1.3.0-alpha6.
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`with-open-file`.
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-type projects, but that was a choice made for the other
advantages it brings.
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Oh, and the standard JDK class java.util.zip.GZIPInputStream implements gzip
decompression.
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can't really do that in a Lisp syntax, so heredoc usually gets
reinterpreted to mean quoted string with multiple characters serving as the
delimeter.
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It's a bug: I just created CLJ-761http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-761
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In general, print-dup should work for serialization, but there are cases
where it doesn't work: defrecords, for example, though that may be fixed in
the next release.
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`print-dup` on any collection type generates code to call the `create`
method of the collection's class. `APersistentVector$SubVector` is missing
a `create` method.
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Probably swank-clojure. Even better, write an Emacs client for
nREPL: https://github.com/clojure/tools.nrepl
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I think xml-seq is returning a sequence representing a depth-first traversal
of the XML document. So the first item in the sequence is the entire
document, followed by the first element under the root, and so on.
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Yes, with one correction: Clojure is not an interpreter. The Clojure
compiler treats certain symbols specially, such as `if`, `do`, and `def`.
You cannot redefine these symbols.
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languages that have a built-in concept of a runtime image, like Smalltalk
or some Lisps, the line between static code and runtime data is blurred.
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Look at Zippers. They can be used to navigate up and down a tree, replacing
things as needed. http://clojure.blip.tv/file/4503162/
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It is not possible to turn an interface into a protocol. When protocols
first appeared, the idea was floated to replace the low-level interfaces
like ILookup with equivalent protocols, but this idea has not received
substantial attention since.
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That's a bug. Created http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-753
http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-753Thanks for the report.
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It's not the DOM API, but take a look at Zippers as an efficient way to
manipulate tree-like structures, including XML.
Luke VanderHart's Clojure Conj talk on Zippers is
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If you want to receive a DOM object from Java, manipulate it, and then
return a DOM object back to Java, without rebuilding it, you're probably
stuck manipulating it through the Java DOM APIs.
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transitive dependencies with Maven/Leiningen.
In Leiningen, like this:
https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/blob/master/sample.project.clj#L35
In Maven, like this:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-optional-and-excludes-dependencies.html#Dependency_Exclusions
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was never finished, but
you can find video of Rich talking about it here:
http://www.infoq.com/interviews/hickey-clojure-protocols
And some notes at
http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Mutex+references+%28pods%2C+nee+cells%29
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I should have mentioned that I had tried both these before posting, and
they don't seem to help in this case. All clojure version artifacts were
still being downloaded.
Huh. That's surprising. Don't know why.
*-SNAPSHOT dependency resolution is a bit strange, which is why it's
that is incorrectly
quoted.
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I've been working in this direction with Cljque, for
example http://bit.ly/gCtmAl
Cljque is still an experiment and has no stable API or documentation.
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Oh yeah, you can't extend an interface to a new class. So it won't work.
This is why protocols exist, in fact. Silly me.
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fixing first.
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Yes, something like tonyl's code will work.
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I think you just described strong A.I.
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foo {:key a} 42)
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(defmeta foo {:key 'a} 42)
^{:key a, ...} #'user/foo
Also, look at the source of the defn macro, which quotes the arglist during
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Clojure is an excellent choice when you want to integrate with Java
libraries, as the interop is almost seamless. As Mike A. mentioned, writing
fast numeric algorithms in pure Clojure is tricky, although the next release
(currently 1.3.0-alpha) will make that easier, and you can always drop
. Many common OS-level features -- launching processes and
sending signals, for example -- are not available in the standard Java APIs,
and require the use of native code or implementation-specific APIs.
I'm not saying it can't be done, just that there may be better tools for the
job.
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swank-clojure breaks in a number of small ways on Clojure 1.3 alphas, mostly
because of moved/renamed functions.
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Yes, `locking` on the function itself will work; it's roughly equivalent to
a `synchronized` method in Java.
Also try Agents, as Ken suggests.
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The plan is that normal arithmetic functions +-*/ will be fast on longs, and
longs will be the default.
But I don't know what the plan is if you really do want truncating
arithmetic on longs.
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No, because the arithmetic functions compile down to primitive arithmetic
operations. You can define your own generic math functions, but you can't
make them as fast as primitives.
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Reduce!
(reduce (fn [new-map [key value]] (assoc new-map ...)) {} old-map)
This is nice because you can change both keys and values, even add or remove
keys.
For something simpler:
(into {} (fn [[key value]] ... ) old-map)
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Tim Dysinger did it with Hazelcast:
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Clojure itself does not use exceptions for control flow. Java libraries
sometimes do.
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Another purpose of defrecord (and deftype) is to support new types that
implement protocols.
Defrecord adds real type information to maps (accessible through the `type`
function) but this was already possible with metadata.
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I don't know much about Agent-Based Modeling, but is it possible you could
use Clojure's built-in features, like Agents and Refs, for your application?
The old ants demo in Clojure is a simple agent-based simulation.
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For examples of polymorphism mixing Java and Clojure, try my article on
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Since about 1.1, I think, the Clojure compiler calls String.intern() on
String literals. So yes, they are the same object.
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This is a bug. I created CLJ-739 for it.
http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-739
Thanks for the report, Olek!
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a package name, but
I'm not sure.
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, make sure you are familiar with its performance-tuning
settings, such as heap size and garbage collection strategy.
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Redefining equality is not something to be taken lightly. It can break in
subtle ways with identity and hash codes.
You may want a custom equality function, like equal up to n elements of a
sequence, for use in your tests.
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is bad. It leads to problems
like fragile base classes, and (in Java at least) it limits you to a single
inheritance hierarchy. Even some Java developers will even tell you to use
inheritance only from interfaces, and put shared code into static methods
elsewhere.
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Modern JVMs like HotSpot are very good at eliminating unnecessary
instructions. Unfortunately, I haven't heard of a good tool for observing
this process, so you either have to take it on faith or go read the OpenJDK
source code.
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Java doesn't have any unsigned types, and that's not really something we can
change. Java libraries that need to do binary I/O tend to work with byte
arrays and handle individual bytes as ints.
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It is not supported right now, and probably will not ever be supported.
Protocol methods are intended to be a low-level mechanism, with
higher-level APIs, including variable arity, built out of ordinary
functions.
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Can you give example steps to reproduce this problem?
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Glad to see there's still interest in this. Sorry I don't have time to
maintain clojure-hadoop (I haven't used Hadoop at all in the past year, so
I'd be a poor choice) but I will help where I can. If somebody wants to
take on maintenance I'll link to it from my github repository.
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`defprotocol` creates a real Var, which you can `use` or `refer` just like a
function.
`deftype` and `defrecord` both create classes, which you must `import` using
the class name. Class names have to be compatible with Java, so dashes are
converted to underscores.
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.
https://github.com/clojure/tools.nrepl
Anthony Simpson (@IORaynes) started Clojail, a sandboxing library.
https://github.com/Raynes/clojail
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I don't know what select * from StockTick(symbol=... is doing, but it
looks like the error is coming from the library handling that query, not
Clojure.
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by the Clojure reader. For more complex data, you probably want a
custom format that takes advantage of characteristics of your application's
data to achieve better efficiency.
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There are a handful of Clojure HTTP libraries on Github, but I do not have
one in particular to recommend.
It's not hard to use Java's HttpUrlConnection directly.
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David Liebke gave a talk at Clojure-Conj 2010 titled From Concurrency to
Parallelism with detailed performance comparisons of map, pmap, and
Fork/Join-style iteration. Look for it on clojure.blip.tv in the near
future!
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requested printable/readable defrecords and/or constructor
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Hi Eduardo,
Are you aware of the :volatile-mutable and :unsynchronized-mutable options
in deftype?
http://clojure.github.com/clojure/clojure.core-api.html#clojure.core/deftype
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clojure.contrib.http-agent (which I wrote) is deprecated in 1.2 and gone in
1.3. Its design with respect to error handling is fundamentally broken, as
you discovered.
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So far, this hasn't been an issue for contrib, but only a couple of new
contrib libraries are releasing to Maven Central right now.
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