Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-05-19 Thread Phillip Lord
Jony Hudson jonyepsi...@gmail.com writes: On Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:58:50 UTC+1, Phillip Lord wrote: Again, based on the dubious ID that an DOI makes things citable. A URL is already citable! Well, there's no shortage of broken links out there to suggest that people have trouble

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-05-16 Thread Jony Hudson
On Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:58:50 UTC+1, Phillip Lord wrote: Again, based on the dubious ID that an DOI makes things citable. A URL is already citable! Well, there's no shortage of broken links out there to suggest that people have trouble keeping content associated with stable URLs.

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-05-15 Thread Giovanni Gherdovich
Hello, On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:42 AM, vrak...@gmail.com wrote: For the purposes of academic publications (in areas well outside of SIGPLAN and such), are there any preferred citations for Clojure and EDN? loosely related to this old thread, today I have read that github has worked out a

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-05-15 Thread Phillip Lord
Giovanni Gherdovich g.gherdov...@gmail.com writes: For the purposes of academic publications (in areas well outside of SIGPLAN and such), are there any preferred citations for Clojure and EDN? loosely related to this old thread, today I have read that github has worked out a way to stick a

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-24 Thread Phillip Lord
Ben Wolfson wolf...@gmail.com writes: The idea that you can't cite websites is a conceit that ensures that academics continue to spend a 1000s of pounds a paper on puplication costs, when you can achieve much the same with a blog, some metadata and archive.org. Ah, that was good, I feel

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-23 Thread Phillip Lord
Cite the URL. It's the correct identifier, it's got the relevant data on it, and it's archived in archive.org. If the journal editor or other academic tells you that you need a proper academic reference, just ignore them, because they are wrong. Phil vrak...@gmail.com writes: For the

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-23 Thread Christopher Small
I have never had to cite Clojure, but I have cited other software packages that didn't have publications. In general, if there is an actual academic publication, it's best to cite that. Frequently there isn't of course, and in those cases I've cited the web address. Cheers Chris On

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-23 Thread Phillip Lord
Actually, I am not sure I would agree. For example, there are quite a few publications on Scala but most of the academic publications are about something; so, the semantics of it's type system, or the blending of function and OO or so on. So, which should you cite? Well, you could pick the

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-23 Thread Ben Wolfson
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Phillip Lord phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.ukwrote: The idea that you can't cite websites is a conceit that ensures that academics continue to spend a 1000s of pounds a paper on puplication costs, when you can achieve much the same with a blog, some metadata and

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-23 Thread Christopher Small
I'm not disagreeing with you. When you're talking about a language, and none of the papers specifically points to the language as a whole - that's fine. But in the case of specific software packages/programs, I think it is often better to cite a paper if it exists. For example, if I write a paper

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-23 Thread Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
Here's a good citation for Clojure: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1408682 Thanks, Ambrose On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Christopher Small metasoar...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not disagreeing with you. When you're talking about a language, and none of the papers specifically points to the

citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-22 Thread vrakade
For the purposes of academic publications (in areas well outside of SIGPLAN and such), are there any preferred citations for Clojure and EDN? Or could a recommendation for a citation for both (especially EDN) be proposed if there isn't one currently? -- You received this message because you

Re: citing Clojure and EDN?

2014-04-22 Thread Alex Miller
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but the EDN spec is https://github.com/edn-format/edn and was written by Rich Hickey. Seems like that is what you should cite. I don't know what it would mean to cite Clojure - it is software, written by many people over a period of years. Rich

Re: Citing clojure

2009-10-02 Thread Jung Ko
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, John Harrop jharrop...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dragan Djuric draga...@gmail.com wrote: I usualy cite Rich's conference paper and Stuart's book. @conference{hickey2008clojure, title={{The Clojure programming language}},

Re: Citing clojure

2009-10-02 Thread Dragan Djuric
Yes, Bibtex is ugly, but guess what - you newer need to write a single line. You find a reference in google scholar, copy paste a reference into your reference file and it works. Please call Google and ask for another, more lispy export format in their Google Scholar. Additionally, if you have to

Citing clojure

2009-10-01 Thread Hadley Wickham
Hi all, Are there any preferences for citing clojure in academic publications? Thanks, Hadley --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure

Re: Citing clojure

2009-10-01 Thread Dragan Djuric
sounds the most legit for academic publications... On Oct 1, 4:49 pm, Hadley Wickham h.wick...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Are there any preferences for citing clojure in academic publications? Thanks, Hadley --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because

Re: Citing clojure

2009-10-01 Thread John Harrop
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Dragan Djuric draga...@gmail.com wrote: I usualy cite Rich's conference paper and Stuart's book. @conference{hickey2008clojure, title={{The Clojure programming language}}, author={Hickey, R.}, booktitle={Proceedings of the 2008 symposium on Dynamic

Re: Citing clojure

2009-10-01 Thread Krukow
On Oct 1, 10:17 pm, John Harrop jharrop...@gmail.com wrote: @conference{hickey2008clojure,  title={{The Clojure programming language}},  author={Hickey, R.},  booktitle={Proceedings of the 2008 symposium on Dynamic languages},  year={2008},  organization={ACM New York, NY, USA} }