Re: What's the status of clojure for Android?

2014-02-08 Thread curiousGuy
Another interesting consideration regarding Clojure on Android (or any other local OS)... As of Qt 5, Javascript is a first-class language for developing apps, and Qt 5 officially supports Android, iOS, in addition to its prior support for OSX, Windows, Linux, etc. You can get nearly all app

Re: What's the status of clojure for Android?

2014-02-08 Thread Zach Oakes
: Another interesting consideration regarding Clojure on Android (or any other local OS)... As of Qt 5, Javascript is a first-class language for developing apps, and Qt 5 officially supports Android, iOS, in addition to its prior support for OSX, Windows, Linux, etc. You can get nearly all app

Re: What's the status of clojure for Android?

2014-02-08 Thread Gary Trakhman
of Clojure, and would probably also not get to use native Android APIs. On Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:57:38 PM UTC-5, curiousGuy wrote: Another interesting consideration regarding Clojure on Android (or any other local OS)... As of Qt 5, Javascript is a first-class language for developing

What's the status of clojure for Android?

2014-02-03 Thread Erlis Vidal
Hi group, I'll be starting a project in Android and I was wondering if I could use clojure as my programming language. Any update/recommendation about this. Will the application have acceptable performance? If not the entire app, can I write at least some libraries in clojure and call them from

Re: What's the status of clojure for Android?

2014-02-03 Thread Zach Oakes
Alex put together a great website that may answer your questions: http://clojure-android.info/ If you have any questions afterwards, feel free to post to the clojure-android group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/clojure-android On Monday, February 3, 2014 3:17:46 PM UTC-5, Erlis

Re: What's the status of clojure for Android?

2014-02-03 Thread Erlis Vidal
Great! Thanks for the info! On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Zach Oakes zsoa...@gmail.com wrote: Alex put together a great website that may answer your questions: http://clojure-android.info/ If you have any questions afterwards, feel free to post to the clojure-android group: https

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2013-02-21 Thread BJG145
I've been trying to figure out how to get started with Clojure on Android, and I'm thinking of using LibGDX. http://code.google.com/p/libgdx/ I've just been looking at a game called Bounce Away which was written almost entirely in Clojure with LibGDX. (Released in December.) https

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2013-02-21 Thread BJG145
Also: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/clojure-android (Ah, only just noticed thatI'll start there...) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2013-01-22 Thread MC Andre
I wrote a wrapper for the Apache Cordova (Phonegap) API recently, so that it could be used with ClojureScript. I got Hello World, etc up and running without much fuss. There are however two issues: 1. Also a slow start-up time, since Phonegap already has resources to load, and then a

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2013-01-22 Thread Timothy Baldridge
Since Clojure runs on the JVM, why do we need ClojureScript and PhoneGap at all? Mostly because Android doesn't run a true JVM. Dalvik is different enough from a true JVM that Oracle tried to sue Google over it. Ugly details are here:

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-28 Thread Herwig Hochleitner
2012/11/27 John Gabriele jmg3...@gmail.com Hm. I need to read up on what the dex is, and why one would want to dex it. :) Dex is the utility transforming java byte code to dalvik executable bytecode, that can run on android. It's written in java so can be applied to itself. I remember a blog

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-28 Thread Murphy McMahon
I wrote a wrapper for the Apache Cordova (Phonegap) API recently, so that it could be used with ClojureScript. I got Hello World, etc up and running without much fuss. There are however two issues: 1. Also a slow start-up time, since Phonegap already has resources to load, and then a large

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-27 Thread Cesar Pinera
with Dalvik, such as concurrency. Still, it works. I would definitely not consider it for a real world product, though. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM, John Gabriele jmg3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What is the current status of Clojure on Android? That is, for creating Android apps in Clojure

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-27 Thread John Gabriele
On Monday, November 26, 2012 9:14:07 PM UTC-5, Herwig Hochleitner wrote: 2012/11/26 John Gabriele jmg...@gmail.com javascript: What are currently the main limitations in creating and running Clojure programs on Android? (Does some limited subset of Clojure work? Does the bytecode

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-27 Thread John Gabriele
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:46:44 PM UTC-5, César Piñera wrote: I put together some notes and hints on how to share Clojure functions with an Android app in Java for the Portland Clojure meetup. https://github.com/cesarpinera/TargetAndroid This looks great. Thanks, César. Clojure

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-27 Thread Curtis Gagliardi
wrote: 2012/11/26 John Gabriele jmg...@gmail.com javascript: What are currently the main limitations in creating and running Clojure programs on Android? (Does some limited subset of Clojure work? Does the bytecode that Clojure produces run on Dalvik?) Clojure on Android is alive and well

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-27 Thread Paul deGrandis
Curtis, I have successful built a ClojureScript app that uses SL4A (Rhino). The startup time is an issue, the performance isn't great but is acceptable. If you're just prototyping something or need a tool for in-house use - this is one alternative. Given the work and efforts that Cesar

Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-26 Thread John Gabriele
Hi, What is the current status of Clojure on Android? That is, for creating Android apps in Clojure. I found this http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Android+Support , but it appears to have been last-updated Feb 2011. What are currently the main limitations in creating and running Clojure

Re: Current status of Clojure on Android?

2012-11-26 Thread Herwig Hochleitner
2012/11/26 John Gabriele jmg3...@gmail.com What are currently the main limitations in creating and running Clojure programs on Android? (Does some limited subset of Clojure work? Does the bytecode that Clojure produces run on Dalvik?) Clojure on Android is alive and well as far as I'm aware

Re: Clojure on Android

2012-05-28 Thread Swaroop C H
Android applications in Clojure. -- Check out http://clojure-android.blogspot.com/ Regards, Swaroop www.swaroopch.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts

Re: Clojure on Android

2012-05-26 Thread thomas kalbe
Android applications in Clojure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from

Clojure on Android

2012-05-25 Thread HelmutKian
I've recently been on board a project that will targeting Android, and I've been given pretty much free reign chose my tools. I'm an experienced Common Lisper and a fairly new Clojure user, but I'd like to know about the feasibility of writing real-world Android applications in Clojure

Re: Clojure on Android

2012-05-25 Thread blcooley
the feasibility of writing real-world Android applications in Clojure. The work by Daniel Solano Gomez at https://github.com/sattvik/neko is the state of the art, so to speak. There's a start-up time penalty associated with loading the runtime, and you'll need Daniel's fork of clojure if you want to do

Re: clojure on android over CLI

2012-03-09 Thread Rostislav Svoboda
On 8 March 2012 11:14, Jim - FooBar(); jimpil1...@gmail.com wrote: There is a clojure repl for android... Jim, my goal is to be able to write android apps in clojure. But to develop an app in clojure on a PC is pain: The android emulator eats a lot of memory and takes minutes to start, 'ant

Re: clojure on android over CLI

2012-03-09 Thread Daniel Solano Gomez
On Fri Mar 9 02:44 2012, Rostislav Svoboda wrote: On 8 March 2012 11:14, Jim - FooBar(); jimpil1...@gmail.com wrote: There is a clojure repl for android... Jim, my goal is to be able to write android apps in clojure. But to develop an app in clojure on a PC is pain: The android emulator

Re: clojure on android over CLI

2012-03-08 Thread Jim - FooBar();
There is a clojure repl for android...it will make your life easier...the only problem is you cannot include external libs in your project... Jim On 08/03/12 01:43, Rostislav Svoboda wrote: Hi. I'm trying to run: java -cp clojure-${VERSION}.jar clojure.main on an Android phone from

Re: clojure on android over CLI

2012-03-08 Thread Daniel Solano Gomez
--dex --output=clojure-${VERSION}.dex.jar clojure-${VERSION}.jar for clojure-1.3.0.jar, clojure-1.3.0-slim.jar and even for the clojure clone for Android Neko Toolkit from Daniel Solano Gómez: https://github.com/sattvik/clojure.git Does anyone know what I missed? Thx in advance

clojure on android over CLI

2012-03-07 Thread Rostislav Svoboda
for clojure-1.3.0.jar, clojure-1.3.0-slim.jar and even for the clojure clone for Android Neko Toolkit from Daniel Solano Gómez: https://github.com/sattvik/clojure.git Does anyone know what I missed? Thx in advance Bost Now searching: clojure-1.3.0.dex.jar found

Re: Clojure for Android

2011-08-30 Thread Raju Bitter
There are 3 approaches you could take for using ClojureScript to develop an Android app: 1) Use ClojureScript in combination with PhoneGap: the generated JavaScript will then be run inside a webview component (headless browser). 2) Build a normal Android app with a Java/Android based UI,

Re: Clojure for Android

2011-08-17 Thread daly
I have written several android apps so I can help with some questions. Unfortunately I am completely swamped otherwise. If you make it a project on Github that would be useful. Tim Daly On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 22:33 -0700, Paul deGrandis wrote: I'd consider taking this. I've worked a little bit

Clojure for Android

2011-08-16 Thread James Swift
http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Android+Support Issues Needs a motivated owner This topic gets a regular mention but I thought it might be worth asking again if it's ever likely to get the 'motivated owner' ? Given that 'reach' was a primary reason for the development of

Re: Clojure for Android

2011-08-16 Thread Paul deGrandis
I'd consider taking this. I've worked a little bit behind the scenes to get Clojure to run better for me personally on android. Recently, I've been working to get ClojureScript to work well for SL4A (Scripting Layer for Android). I wanted to try to get a native Clojure package working for SL4A,

Clojure and Android update status

2011-01-14 Thread Laurent PETIT
Hello, Say I want to write an app in Clojure for Android. The kind of app which does not require endless restarts. Would you recommand me to go for it ? And if so, what's the current best way of doing this ? I've seen many ports, special builds of clojure for Android, but they seem

Re: Clojure and Android update status

2011-01-14 Thread rob levy
There was recently a stack overflow thread on this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4651757/clojure-on-android/4675855#4675855 One of the people who replied (Arthur Ulfeldt) says that JIT has helped greatly with performance. So maybe it's time to revisit it. It looks like remvee's example

Re: Clojure and Android update status

2011-01-14 Thread Laurent PETIT
Thanks Rob, I hadn't seen this very recent thread ! 2011/1/14 rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com There was recently a stack overflow thread on this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4651757/clojure-on-android/4675855#4675855 One of the people who replied (Arthur Ulfeldt) says that JIT has helped

Re: Clojure and Android update status

2011-01-14 Thread Stuart Sierra
for news. The last update was by Aaron Bedra, a Clojure/core member, in December 2010. I wouldn't say it's a high priority right now, but neither have people lost interest. I personally would not recommend writing an Android app in Clojure if you intend to release it right away. But if you're

Re: Clojure on Android

2010-05-25 Thread Remco van 't Veer
On 2010/05/21 15:32, Remco van 't Veer wrote: BTW the latest clojure may work on dalvik but probably won't due to issue #199[1]. Checkout my clojure fork[2] for an ancient version of clojure that does work on dalvik. I just confirmed the current master branch does run on dalvikvm. See my

Re: Clojure on Android

2010-05-21 Thread Remco van 't Veer
On 2010/05/20 23:50, Mike Meyer wrote: Clojure on Android isn't hard to set up, but performance isn't very good. IIRC, there are two issues: both reflection and GC - which Clojure tends to use heavily - are slow on Dalvik. Possibly Froyo will help with that. Froyo will include JIT for dalvik

Clojure on Android

2010-05-20 Thread David Blubaugh
To All, Has anyone yet ported clojure to the android cellphones at this time ?? I want to develop applications for the Android cellphones by utilizing a dialect of the lisp programming language David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group

Re: Clojure on Android

2010-05-20 Thread rob levy
at 12:37 PM, David Blubaugh davidblubaugh2...@gmail.com wrote: To All, Has anyone yet ported clojure to the android cellphones at this time ?? I want to develop applications for the Android cellphones by utilizing a dialect of the lisp programming language David -- You received

Re: Clojure on Android

2010-05-20 Thread rob levy
of things to do too (I just got an mp3 player that runs Android 1.6 and I'm going to start with Remvee's Hello World example). Rob On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM, David Blubaugh davidblubaugh2...@gmail.com wrote: To All, Has anyone yet ported clojure to the android cellphones

Re: Clojure on Android

2010-05-20 Thread Mike Meyer
[Format recovered from top posting. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:21 PM, rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM, David Blubaugh davidblubaugh2...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone yet ported clojure to the android cellphones at this time ?? I want to develop

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-18 Thread George Jahad
On Jun 18, 7:05 am, Marklar ddil...@gmail.com wrote: I tried the second apk and it works perfectly. Nice job! Cool, thanks. My phone is a retail G1 with the JesusFreak 1.51 image. The menu I was referring to was the menu of the terminal application from which I was using telnet. You mean

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-17 Thread Marklar
Very nice, thanks for sharing. I tried the first version you posted on my rooted G1. It could evaluate strings and numbers, but unfortunately when I tried to create a function it didn't do anything. It just stopped, though the activity was still responding (the menu worked, etc). I looked at

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-17 Thread George Jahad
Odd, it does work on my rooted G1, (an Android Developer Phone.) Remco, does it work for you, either on the emulator or the G1? What you are seeing indicates that run-time compilation isn't working at all for you. (Self-evalution of numbers and strings from the repl don't require compilation,

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-17 Thread George Jahad
Odd, it does work on my rooted G1, (an Android Developer Phone.) Remco, does it work for you, either on the emulator or the G1? What you are seeing indicates that run-time compilation isn't working at all for you. (Self-evalution of numbers and strings from the repl don't require compilation,

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-17 Thread George Jahad
Odd, it does work on my rooted G1, (an Android Developer Phone.) Remco, does it work for you, either on the emulator or the G1? What you are seeing indicates that run-time compilation isn't working at all for you. (Self-evalution of numbers and strings from the repl don't require compilation,

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-16 Thread rb
On Jun 16, 5:51 am, George Jahad andr...@blackbirdsystems.net wrote: Remco van't Veer has done a lot of great working porting Clojure to Android, but one thing remains missing, runtime compilation which would allow a fully functional Repl.  The problem is that the Android VM doesn't use

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-16 Thread George Jahad
On Jun 16, 3:15 am, Remco van 't Veer rwvtv...@gmail.com wrote: Cool!  Please share the code on github or whatever. working on it. I've been looking at reducing the memory footprint so I tend to consider including dex into your app as a bad thing.  But it would be really cool to do the

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-16 Thread George Jahad
...@blackbirdsystems.net wrote: Remco van't Veer has done a lot of great working porting Clojure to Android, but one thing remains missing, runtime compilation which would allow a fully functional Repl.  The problem is that the Android VM doesn't use standard Java class files but rather

Re: Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-16 Thread George Jahad
On Jun 16, 3:15 am, Remco van 't Veer rwvtv...@gmail.com wrote: Cool!  Please share the code on github or whatever. ok, I've forked your clojure tree and added my patches here: http://github.com/GeorgeJahad/clojure/tree/master The main changes are in Compiler.java, with a few in build.xml

Runtime Compilation of Clojure from Android

2009-06-15 Thread George Jahad
Remco van't Veer has done a lot of great working porting Clojure to Android, but one thing remains missing, runtime compilation which would allow a fully functional Repl. The problem is that the Android VM doesn't use standard Java class files but rather Android specific ones. There is a host