The talk was really enligthing... but I would say it is still
research.
While I can trust you can make, say an intuitive and reactive UI for
flash like animations, I think there are still problems to take care
of for the program example.
Here this is just a simple algorithm without long calls
If you'd like to see Bret talk, he will be speaking at Strange Loop
this year.
St. Louis, Sept 23-25
http://thestrangeloop.com
Alex
On Feb 24, 12:29 pm, Damien Lepage damienlep...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,
You may have seen this already, if not I believe it's worth investing 1h of
your
Look Chris Granger (@ibdknox) has gone and put those ideas into action -
http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/02/26/connecting-to-your-creation/
Lovely stuff.
David
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Alex Miller a...@puredanger.com wrote:
If you'd like to see Bret talk, he will be speaking at
Amazing.
The lesson for me (which has echoes of the 'hammock driven design' message)
is that sometimes the best ideas come not from evolutions of existing
answers but starting completely from scratch. As techies, we sometimes (I
think) restrict ourselves to improving our existing solutions
Actually, I guess this is the driving force behind my activism
about literate programming. What we do now is a social wrong
in the sense that we are creating software that could be so much
better, in an engineering sense, than we do now.
We create software but we lose the most valuable part of
Didn't have the time to watch thevideo yesterday, and just watched
it. Visualizing code in such a way is amazing, could be extremely
useful when teaching how to program.
I think the browser-connected REPL in ClojureScript is already a good
step into the right direction, since it makes testing
Raju Bitter rajubit...@googlemail.com writes:
Didn't have the time to watch thevideo yesterday, and just watched
it. Visualizing code in such a way is amazing, could be extremely
useful when teaching how to program.
Yes, what a great object lesson in the usefulness of being able to
disable
Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org writes:
Yes, what a great object lesson in the usefulness of being able to
disable locals clearing. Gave me a lot to think about regarding what
kind of feedback tools should provide.
I don't understand what disable locals clearing means.
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This is pretty cool, and definitely something that is needed.
In terms of images etc, I see these as resources that are referenced
by the expressions going over the wire, rather than embedded in the
expressions directly. You can just send the url to the image (or data
later turned into a url),
Great video,
it was interesting that the binary search example only really works
with pure functions since you must specify all of the initial state
for the debugger/visualiser.
In non-pure functions (and oo) the user is unlikely to be able to
specify valid values for all the mutable state
Craig Brozefsky cr...@red-bean.com writes:
Yes, what a great object lesson in the usefulness of being able to
disable locals clearing. Gave me a lot to think about regarding what
kind of feedback tools should provide.
I don't understand what disable locals clearing means.
In order to avoid
Hi Everyone,
You may have seen this already, if not I believe it's worth investing 1h of
your life:
http://vimeo.com/36579366
That's already a good candidate for the technical talk of the year, if not
the decade IMO.
Ok, I'm getting a bit too enthusiastic here but this is so inspiring.
After
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Damien Lepage damienlep...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,
You may have seen this already, if not I believe it's worth investing 1h of
your life:
http://vimeo.com/36579366
That's already a good candidate for the technical talk of the year, if not
the decade
Are you Ken Wesson with a new account?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Damien Lepage damienlep...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,
You may have seen this already, if not I believe it's worth investing 1h of
your life:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you Ken Wesson with a new account?
Who?
Wait. Surely you don't think that it's not possible for more than one
person to prefer text to video as a way of disseminating verbal
information over the internet, given all
What does video get you that text or HTML+images couldn't get you?
watching the video would answer the question and would have probably
taken you less time than writing this email...
Not worth what you lose, IMO
how can you know if you haven't watched the video?
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marco Abis marco.a...@gmail.com wrote:
What does video get you that text or HTML+images couldn't get you?
watching the video would answer the question and would have probably
taken you less time than writing this email...
Actually, it would have taken an hour,
nah it's possible i guess, but he's the only other person i've ever
seen type an essay about it on this forum in reply to someone posting
a link to a video. also, he posts and yours are very similar and he
disappeared shortly before you arrived. AND YOU WOULD HAVE GOT AWAY
WITH IT IF IT WASNT FOR
First: sorry, my reply was meant to be sent to you only, not the list
Actually, it would have taken an hour, and writing the email took much less.
...
Because it was described as a talk. That means the bulk of the
actually meaningful content in it comes from someone's lips flapping.
That
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Marco Abis marco.a...@gmail.com wrote:
First: sorry, my reply was meant to be sent to you only, not the list
Because it was described as a talk. That means the bulk of the
actually meaningful content in it comes from someone's lips flapping.
That can be
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you Ken Wesson with a new account?
Who?
Wait. Surely you don't think that it's not possible for more than one
person to prefer text to
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you Ken Wesson with a new account?
Who?
Wait. Surely you don't think
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you Ken Wesson with a new account?
Who?
Wait. Surely you don't think
@cedric: I think you've made your point. I know you're not asking for advice,
but I think the constructive thing would have been to ask: Could you please
provide more context? Are there slides available of this talk? If you want to
rant about this newfangled video contraption, this list is not
On 02/24/2012 02:42 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you Ken Wesson with a new
Bringing this back on topic, I watched the video. Wow! was it worth
it. This guy has some pretty mind-blowing demos. I highly recommend
this, I'm going to have to sit down soon and code up a clone of his
binary search tree demo.
Timothy
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel E. Renfer duck112...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/24/2012 02:42 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
OK. I googled the group archives. Seems there was a Ken Wesson active
on the list for a while, but he disappeared a couple of months before
I joined. I'm not sure why
Perhaps someone will volunteer to transcribe it and post that. You know, maybe
someone who can type quickly and prefers text. :-)
I've done that for one of Rich's earlier talks posted as video. It takes time,
and I'm not volunteering for this one.
Andy
On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cedric
I need a braille version, any volunteer ?
BTWY, what was the initial subject of this thread ?
I'm half-joking here, welcome back Mr Wesson.
:
Mr Smith
Perhaps someone will volunteer to transcribe it and post that. You know,
maybe someone who can type quickly and prefers text. :-)
Sorry, I certainly didn't intend to start such a heated debate ;o)
Hopefully some of you appreciate the link but you're all free to ignore.
The truth is, no matter the media, there are too many interesting things
and you need to choose.
I had this video in my todo list for a week before I took the
On Feb 24, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Daniel E. Renfer wrote:
Ken Wesson was noted for having strong opinions as was a noted hater of
videos where text will do.
He was also the only guy who would post replies with just you're welcome as
the body. Until Cedric, that is...
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Le 24 févr. 2012 à 19:29, Damien Lepage damienlep...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi Everyone,
You may have seen this already, if not I believe it's worth investing 1h of
your life:
http://vimeo.com/36579366
That's already a good candidate for the technical talk of the year, if not
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Marco Abis marco.a...@gmail.com wrote:
First: sorry, my reply was meant to be sent to you only, not the list
Because it was described as a talk. That means the bulk of the
actually meaningful content in it comes from someone's lips flapping.
That can be
Thanks for posting the link. I've been following Bret Victor's blog
and the stuff he has been doing for some time.
Bret has built some very impressive UIs using OpenLaszlo, and he is a
fan of the technology and the expressiveness of the LZX language for
building UIs. OpenLaszlo was created by
Thanks for bringing the discussion back on track. That's a great list of
contexts links.
David
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Raju Bitter rajubit...@googlemail.comwrote:
Thanks for posting the link. I've been following Bret Victor's blog
and the stuff he has been doing for some time.
That's a great talk, and a great basic principle: that creators need
an immediate connection to their creation.
I realized this has also been my side project for the last few months,
though mostly in hammock phase.
I think the foundational technology we need, as a community, is an
html5 repl.
Hi,
this video showed up on my G+ stream about a week ago and it was /fun/ to
watch.
I think most of the people around here will be more intrigued by the first
half, which has a focus on programming.
Side-note: this is one of the (few) video presentations that just can't be
translated to
That's a nice summary, and is part of what I'm hoping to enable with nREPL.[1]
I started with it trying to provide a tool-agnostic REPL backend, but I quickly
wanted to get past the rigid text orientation of that medium. Yes, Clojure
forms are always read as text, and that's the dominant
Why listen to music when you could read lyrics? Watching a well-performed
talk is about making an emotional connection with the storyteller. Go read
the I have a dream speech, then watch the video. They're both powerful,
but the performance trumps the script.
(Please don't troll me on the
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