Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 11.11.2016 22:36 Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Wednesday 09 November 2016 09:22:24 Nils Gladitz wrote: ... Policy warnings are intended to encourage you to switch to new behaviours since the old ones are deprecated. In actively maintained projects they are not meant to be suppressed. I

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 11.11.2016 22:36 Alexander Neundorf wrote: You could have a look at the major distributions and what they ship. Thanks for your comments. We do not only want to support the major distributions but also (maybe proprietary) cross compilation tools. That's why we still support

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On Wednesday 09 November 2016 09:22:24 Nils Gladitz wrote: ... > You said you are not forcing your users to upgrade by setting a policy > to OLD. > Which implied that not setting the policy to OLD would force your users > to upgrade ... which it doesn't. > > >> In fact all that setting it to OLD

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On Wednesday 09 November 2016 00:47:39 Albrecht Schlosser wrote: > On 08.11.2016 23:01 Nils Gladitz wrote: > > On 08.11.2016 20:26, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: > >> I'm a developer of a public GUI library (FLTK). In this position you > >> don't know anything about the availability of CMake versions

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 11/09/2016 09:06 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: So why the project in the middle of the migration process is not a valid case? It is maintained but the exact migration step is paused, but I have an intention to improve the code in future. Anyway even if the project is no longer maintained, then

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09-Nov-16 23:00, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 09.11.2016 15:52, Ruslan Baratov wrote: >> Can you show the real code? The code that in your opinion doesn't >> violate the "right way of policy usage"? > > It is not a question about code. It is a question about context and > use case. You just said

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09.11.2016 15:52, Ruslan Baratov wrote: Can you show the real code? The code that in your opinion doesn't violate the "right way of policy usage"? It is not a question about code. It is a question about context and use case. Valid context as the documentation states would e.g. be a

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

Can you show the real code? The code that in your opinion doesn't violate the "right way of policy usage"? On 09-Nov-16 22:14, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 09.11.2016 14:57, Ruslan Baratov wrote: >> >> Again policies are not meant to be feature toggles. >> You can do a lot of things and there may be

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09.11.2016 14:57, Ruslan Baratov wrote: Again policies are not meant to be feature toggles. You can do a lot of things and there may be valid use cases but in general policies are not meant to be used this way. This is made explicit in CMake's documentation on policies. They exist to

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09-Nov-16 19:51, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 09.11.2016 12:04, Ruslan Baratov wrote: >> On 09-Nov-16 16:22, Nils Gladitz wrote: >>> On 09.11.2016 04:29, Ruslan Baratov wrote: On 08-Nov-16 23:33, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 11/08/2016 04:17 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: > >> Except it's

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

Oops, totally forgot to mention the crux: I happened to be the guy who apparently was the first to start using continue() - so by the time my college got to me, we quickly found out the issue. But before the college hit the problem, I didn't have the vaguest clue that I was typing code that would

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

+1 for me too - sometime ago a college of mine spend quite some time to figure why he couldn't bootstrap our application - turns out he was using an (old) CMake version which didn't know about the 'continue' command. The error-messages coming out of CMake sometimes help, but more often don't

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09.11.2016 12:04, Ruslan Baratov wrote: On 09-Nov-16 16:22, Nils Gladitz wrote: On 09.11.2016 04:29, Ruslan Baratov wrote: On 08-Nov-16 23:33, Nils Gladitz wrote: On 11/08/2016 04:17 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: Except it's exactly opposite :) `cmake_minimum_required` is about new

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09-Nov-16 16:22, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 09.11.2016 03:47, Ruslan Baratov wrote: >> On 09-Nov-16 06:01, Nils Gladitz wrote: >>> I think the git tag creation dates should roughly equate release dates: >>> https://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=tags >> What about the future releases? There

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09-Nov-16 16:22, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 09.11.2016 04:29, Ruslan Baratov wrote: >> On 08-Nov-16 23:33, Nils Gladitz wrote: >>> On 11/08/2016 04:17 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: >>> Except it's exactly opposite :) `cmake_minimum_required` is about new features/commands, and policies is

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09.11.2016 03:47, Ruslan Baratov wrote: On 09-Nov-16 06:01, Nils Gladitz wrote: I think the git tag creation dates should roughly equate release dates: https://cmake.org/gitweb?p=cmake.git;a=tags What about the future releases? There was a page https://cmake.org/Bug/changelog_page.php

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09.11.2016 04:29, Ruslan Baratov wrote: On 08-Nov-16 23:33, Nils Gladitz wrote: On 11/08/2016 04:17 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: Except it's exactly opposite :) `cmake_minimum_required` is about new features/commands, and policies is about behavior. I don't agree and you can not separate

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 08-Nov-16 23:33, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 11/08/2016 04:17 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: > >> On 08-Nov-16 22:22, Nils Gladitz wrote: >>> Strictly speaking cmake_minimum_required(VERSION) is not about command >>> availability but rather about behavior (cmake policies). >> Except it's exactly

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 09-Nov-16 06:01, Nils Gladitz wrote: > On 08.11.2016 20:26, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: > >> >> I'd like to have a list of release dates (I'm not sure if there is >> one) as well as the exact version a feature was introduced to write >> CMakeLists.txt files that run on really old CMake versions.

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 08.11.2016 23:01 Nils Gladitz wrote: On 08.11.2016 20:26, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: I'm a developer of a public GUI library (FLTK). In this position you don't know anything about the availability of CMake versions on your target platforms. Our intention is to keep cmake_minimum_required()

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 08.11.2016 22:23 Eric Noulard wrote: 2016-11-08 20:26 GMT+01:00 Albrecht Schlosser <...>: I'd also like such an addition to the documentation for reasons discussed below. I think the need is recognized by most CMake user but... okay... Strictly speaking

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 08.11.2016 20:26, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: On 08.11.2016 15:22 Nils Gladitz wrote: Strictly speaking cmake_minimum_required(VERSION) is not about command availability but rather about behavior (cmake policies). [...] I'd start by requesting the highest possible version I could justify

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

Rather than trying to do everything, perhaps there's value in tackling this in stages. At a high level, simply knowing in which CMake version a particular command, property, variable or module was added is a good start. >From there, if a command, etc. gained new options, then a note could be added

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

2016-11-08 20:26 GMT+01:00 Albrecht Schlosser : > On 08.11.2016 15:22 Nils Gladitz wrote: > >> On 11/08/2016 03:11 PM, Dvir Yitzchaki wrote: >> >> But how do you know which version to declare on cmake_minimum_required? >>> If this feature will be added it won't be far

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 08.11.2016 15:22 Nils Gladitz wrote: On 11/08/2016 03:11 PM, Dvir Yitzchaki wrote: But how do you know which version to declare on cmake_minimum_required? If this feature will be added it won't be far from writing a script that scans the commands you use and outputs the first appropriate

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 11/08/2016 04:17 PM, Ruslan Baratov wrote: On 08-Nov-16 22:22, Nils Gladitz wrote: Strictly speaking cmake_minimum_required(VERSION) is not about command availability but rather about behavior (cmake policies). Except it's exactly opposite :) `cmake_minimum_required` is about new

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 08-Nov-16 22:11, Dvir Yitzchaki wrote: > But how do you know which version to declare on cmake_minimum_required? I do hit this too. This would be a very useful feature. Sometimes I have to manually "scan" the docs to figure out some simple facts about newly introduces variables/commands. On

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 11/08/2016 03:11 PM, Dvir Yitzchaki wrote: But how do you know which version to declare on cmake_minimum_required? If this feature will be added it won't be far from writing a script that scans the commands you use and outputs the first appropriate version. Strictly speaking

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

...@cmake.org] On Behalf Of Nils Gladitz Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 3:37 PM To: Louis-Paul CORDIER <lp.cord...@dynamixyz.com>; Cmake Mailing List <cmake@cmake.org> Subject: Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation On 11/08/2016 10:57 AM, Louis-Paul CORDIER

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

On 11/08/2016 10:57 AM, Louis-Paul CORDIER wrote: Hi, This is a feature proposal for the documentation. Cmake is making use of cmake_minimum_required() command, that is very useful. Unfortunately it is very hard to identify commands that will work without browsing all version of cmake

Re: [CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

+1 -- Mike Jackson [mike.jack...@bluequartz.net] Louis-Paul CORDIER wrote: Hi, This is a feature proposal for the documentation. Cmake is making use of cmake_minimum_required() command, that is very useful. Unfortunately it is very hard to identify commands that will work without browsing

[CMake] Adding Cmake version in online documentation

Hi, This is a feature proposal for the documentation. Cmake is making use of cmake_minimum_required() command, that is very useful. Unfortunately it is very hard to identify commands that will work without browsing all version of cmake documentation for a given command. That said, adding a