Re: [Coapp-developers] Conversion to/from UNIX-style build systems?

2010-04-09 Thread Garrett Serack
I suspect I'm going to have a long conversation with Bill Hoffman (Kitware/CMake) today... he's on campus. Trouble is, there are a lot of things it doesn't do... as I'll illustrate over the next few weeks. Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp

2010-04-09 Thread Garrett Serack
Welcome :D I'll be really interested to see your ideas. I've purposely announced the project before plans were complete, just because I knew there would be a lot of people to get input from. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software

[Coapp-developers] IRC Channel

2010-04-09 Thread Garrett Serack
I just wanted to mention for all the people who have recently joined, We've got an IRC channel on Freenode.org (#coapp) Feel free to come out! G [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office

[Coapp-developers] Let's talk about libraries

2010-04-12 Thread Garrett Serack
lists the certificate thumbprint, the name of the library and the version. [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre

[Coapp-developers] How exactly will CoApp come together?

2010-04-12 Thread Garrett Serack
, without TRACE. (there's a lot more detail to be found, but that's the gist of it) [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email

Re: [Coapp-developers] Let's talk about libraries

2010-04-13 Thread Garrett Serack
that this is a Codeplex Foundation project is precisely because we can easily acquire code signing certificates. Packages don't have to be signed by CoApp's certificate or necessarily the same CA as CoApp. But they will have to be signed. Gonna do a blog post about this. Garrett Serack | Open Source

[Coapp-developers] CoApp FAQ: How does WinSxS work?

2010-04-15 Thread Garrett Serack
: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

Re: [Coapp-developers] Bundling x64 and x86 binaries in the same library package?

2010-04-16 Thread Garrett Serack
WU to install a binary I feed it, can I? Good question. I'm not sure if WU packages can be manually kicked off. I will investigate. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows

Re: [Coapp-developers] Visual Studio Dependencies

2010-04-19 Thread Garrett Serack
Hmm. There's not a lot we can do about that-beyond ensuring another (non-integrated) method to accomplish the same goals. Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From: Adam Baxter

Re: [Coapp-developers] VC project generator / how-to

2010-04-20 Thread Garrett Serack
and lightweight--I'd like to have that hammered down by the end of next week completely. Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. -Original Message- From: Olaf van der Spek

[Coapp-developers] Thinking abotu testing CoApp's tools.

2010-04-21 Thread Garrett Serack
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Re: [Coapp-developers] What packages do you want to see?

2010-05-05 Thread Garrett Serack
forward without beginning with the specs first. To fly, one must first drive to the airport. We'll get there, it just so happens there is some traffic up front. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp from different perspectives

2010-05-06 Thread Garrett Serack
menu Record Steps to reproduce a problem See the type of file it produces here: http://coapp.org/custom/report-test.zip (I did it on my machine with 6 monitors, so the screenshots are a little, uh... large) G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make

Re: [Coapp-developers] What packages do you want to see?

2010-05-06 Thread Garrett Serack
I love user stories from anywhere Yeah, post them here... eventually they'll end up on their way to somewhere useful ;D G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From

Re: [Coapp-developers] What packages do you want to see?

2010-05-06 Thread Garrett Serack
] On Behalf Of Garrett Serack Sent: 07 May 2010 04:33 To: Michael Herndon; Daniel James Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] What packages do you want to see? I love user stories from anywhere Yeah, post them here... eventually they'll end up on their way

Re: [Coapp-developers] Code?

2010-05-17 Thread Garrett Serack
I'll have this done by EOD tomorrow. G -Original Message- From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of William A. Rowe Jr. Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:13 PM To:

Re: [Coapp-developers] Code?

2010-05-17 Thread Garrett Serack
I don't think we can do C++ and only bind to MSVCRT; hence C being the selected language. Plus, I think it's a good idea to keep it lowest-common-denominator. :D G From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net

[Coapp-developers] CoApp BuildBox is up... not doing anything yet;

2010-05-17 Thread Garrett Serack
The Ever-So-Talented Stephen Zarkos has just told me that our CoApp build box is up. It's a 16-core Xeon with 64gb of memory running Windows Server 2008R2 - we can spin up VMs to our hearts content on there. It's on our external interop rack, so it's accessible to the internet, not internal

[Coapp-developers] Creating Projects in Launchpad.

2010-05-18 Thread Garrett Serack
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Re: [Coapp-developers] Code?

2010-05-18 Thread Garrett Serack
consider binding that directly into target MSIs. Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. -Original Message- From: Olaf van der Spek [mailto:olafvds...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday

Re: [Coapp-developers] Creating Projects in Launchpad.

2010-05-19 Thread Garrett Serack
The project group on Launchpad does not provide a 'namespace' for projects. So there is already a zlib package at http://launchpad.net/zlib Since we need our own development branch for this, we need to have our own project for it. And we can't just call it zlib (there is already one!). So we

[Coapp-developers] Test Message

2010-05-19 Thread Garrett Serack
Sent from work at 10:34 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers Post to : coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Coapp-developers] Test Message

2010-05-19 Thread Garrett Serack
+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jernej Simoncic Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:03 AM To: Garrett Serack on [coapp-developers] Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Test Message On Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Re: [Coapp-developers] [specs] Pre and post install actions?

2010-05-19 Thread Garrett Serack
No. If there are custom actions that need supporting they are going to have to be added to what CoApp supports. Custom Actions are one of the worst parts and most abused features in MSI. From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Coapp-developers] Anyone with OData experience out there?

2010-05-20 Thread Garrett Serack
Just build a sql server database. It's not that heavy! Hell, I'd recon that's the quick and easy thing to do! Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. -Original Message

[Coapp-developers] Trying to prioritize things

2010-05-20 Thread Garrett Serack
XML Schema] - [Critical] - the trace file XML schema [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre

Re: [Coapp-developers] Code?

2010-05-21 Thread Garrett Serack
The plan of record is to have a small (2k) bootstrapping DLL embedded in every MSI that acquires the CoApp core engine DLL--written in straight C, no additional off-platform dependencies that handles the entire dependency resolution installation. There are many benefits to having a core

[Coapp-developers] SCM Instructions

2010-06-01 Thread Garrett Serack
/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

[Coapp-developers] OSCON Event

2010-06-01 Thread Garrett Serack
://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

[Coapp-developers] Mumble ... like IRC, but voice.

2010-06-02 Thread Garrett Serack
mousebutton 4) Oh, and turn off 'overlay' on the overlay page. It makes some apps cry (including Visual Studio) G [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939

Re: [Coapp-developers] Building CoApp code!

2010-06-08 Thread Garrett Serack
The .NET 4 SDK is installed along with Visual Studio So yeah, but there isn't a separate Windows SDK. G From: Adam Baxter [mailto:volta...@voltagex.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:55 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Building

Re: [Coapp-developers] Building CoApp code!

2010-06-08 Thread Garrett Serack
frees us from having any dependencies not already on the system. G From: Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) [mailto:ngomp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:48 PM To: Garrett Serack Cc: Adam Baxter; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Building CoApp code! Why do we need

Re: [Coapp-developers] Async notification from CoApp Engine (libCoApp)

2010-06-09 Thread Garrett Serack
to me too. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From: Philip Allison [mailto:mangobr...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:05 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp

Re: [Coapp-developers] Building CoApp code!

2010-06-10 Thread Garrett Serack
the jscript and it will pull the other projects. I'll be working with a few people over the next couple of weeks getting them started on coding. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better

Re: [Coapp-developers] cli command syntax

2010-06-28 Thread Garrett Serack
...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:42 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] cli command syntax How sure are you that you need three entirely different permissions concepts (freeze/protect/block) in there? Without knowing the use case

[Coapp-developers] CoApp in the first 90 days

2010-06-28 Thread Garrett Serack
(cross-posted from my bloghttp://fearthecowboy.com/post/coapp-in-the-first-90-days.aspx) It has been nearly three months since launching the CoApphttp://coapp.org/ project, and in that time I've been absolutely amazed at the response that we've gotten, and the community folks that have jumped

Re: [Coapp-developers] Spec for coapp-scan

2010-07-14 Thread Garrett Serack
which is where the smarter part of the analysis will be (ie X64 == AMD64 == EMT64 , etc) G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From: Eric Schultz [mailto:wwaha...@gmail.com

Re: [Coapp-developers] Icons/Logos

2010-07-19 Thread Garrett Serack
, Garrett Serack wrote: I think we're going to need some visual identity for CoApp. I'd like to hold an icon/logo design contest. Basically I think we need a nice scalable icon (looks good at all resolutions) and has a distinct identity that sets it apart from the things around it. I'll see if I

Re: [Coapp-developers] Icons/Logos

2010-07-20 Thread Garrett Serack
Yes; I wholeheartedly agree. G -Original Message- From: Andrew Fenn [mailto:andrewf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 9:45 PM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-devel Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Icons/Logos Make sure the icon is in SVG or some other vector format. That way we can

Re: [Coapp-developers] Icons/Logos

2010-07-26 Thread Garrett Serack
Not too bad ! :D You should come up with a few variants on that-perhaps drop the ‘app’ lettering inside, and have the gears unconstrained by the square… G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use

[Coapp-developers] Project Notes and Status update

2010-07-26 Thread Garrett Serack
to give us a license for the commercial version (which has some really cool features, and should actually have functional OpenID authentication amongst other things). THANK YOU MINDTOUCH! [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software

[Coapp-developers] Code release schedule

2010-07-26 Thread Garrett Serack
weeks, the first few might be zip files. G [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre

Re: [Coapp-developers] Code release schedule

2010-07-26 Thread Garrett Serack
Yeah, it’s great… it’ll still be a bit of time before we get functional packages, but every step is a step forward… G From: Andrew Fenn [mailto:andrewf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:57 PM To: Garrett Serack Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Code release schedule It is great to see

Re: [Coapp-developers] Engine - Teds initial take

2010-08-11 Thread Garrett Serack
Hey Olaf, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time out to code review what Ted had done. Feel free to continue doing code reviews--reviewing is one practice that I hope we can all get into more. As we evolve the project and actually get stuff written, I'd like to also make sure that

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Garrett Serack
Ya'll are correct. Mayhap we'll call them hashes. Or HUIDs. That way we know what we're talkin' about. :D From: Eric Schultz [mailto:wwaha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:39 PM To: Trevor Dennis Cc: Garrett Serack; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Garrett Serack
We're NEVER GONNA UPGRADE using MSI. NEVER. Windows Installer fucked this up, and we're not gonna follow. We always want it physically possible to have two versions installed. This is the secret sauce to No Reboots. Fucking Ever. :D G From:

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Garrett Serack
Yeah... components in MSI are more fine grained than you think. An install is almost always made up of many components. G Eric Schultz wwaha...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts on ProductCode are just create another 'HUID' but append the word product to the name, version, architecture and

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Garrett Serack
I'm ambivalent. Eric Schultz wwaha...@gmail.com wrote: But Garrett, what do you really think? Don't hold back :) On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Garrett Serack garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com wrote: We’re NEVER GONNA UPGRADE using MSI. NEVER. Windows Installer fucked

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Garrett Serack
: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:01 PM To: Garrett Serack Cc: Trevor Dennis; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions That what I thought but I'm a little confused. If we use CO_BINDING_POLICY to specify which versions this package replaces

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Garrett Serack
I still have to see how twisted and evil we can get with drivers. From: Rivera, Rafael [mailto:raf...@withinwindows.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:59 PM To: Garrett Serack Cc: Trevor Dennis; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-13 Thread Garrett Serack
We'll just have to show them the right way... They won't be CoApp-compliant if they stick their data in the program folder. :D G -Original Message- From: Elizabeth M Smith [mailto:emsm...@elizabethmariesmith.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:19 AM To: Olaf van der Spek Cc: Garrett

Re: [Coapp-developers] Directory Structure

2010-08-24 Thread Garrett Serack
in {$PKGDIR}\include so that we can symlink it to c:\apps\include\pkgname Uh, I have notes somewhere on how the source code gets installed-but I gotta go over that again. Put that off for now. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use

[Coapp-developers] Engine APIs required by Bootstrap

2010-08-25 Thread Garrett Serack
/// [TBA RETURN CODE?] /// 0 on success. /// 1 on user reqested cancel. /// /returns typedef int (coapp_install_prototype)(const wchar_t* local_path, CoAppInstallCallback* callback); [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack

[Coapp-developers] FYI: Exporting C functions from a .NET assembly so the loading app doesn't even know that it's a .NET assembly.

2010-08-27 Thread Garrett Serack
number of names ordinal hint RVA name 00 227E coapp_resolve [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email

Re: [Coapp-developers] Package System Modifications

2010-08-30 Thread Garrett Serack
performance or stability, it can get traced back to the offending installer (On Vista and beyond, look to the Reliability Monitor). G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From

[Coapp-developers] Remember, we're always on IRC...

2010-09-01 Thread Garrett Serack
://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

Re: [Coapp-developers] Engine APIs required by Bootstrap

2010-09-01 Thread Garrett Serack
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:14 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: Elizabeth M Smith; William A. Rowe Jr.; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Engine APIs required by Bootstrap On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Garrett Serack garre...@microsoft.com wrote

Re: [Coapp-developers] Tool to generate test EXEs and DLLs for packages

2010-09-10 Thread Garrett Serack
Oh, and this is also a pretty example of programming in C# like it was Perl. I would not recommend this style of development for production code. :D G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better

Re: [Coapp-developers] Tool to generate test EXEs and DLLs for packages

2010-09-10 Thread Garrett Serack
can to make it easier. :) Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. -Original Message- From: Olaf van der Spek [mailto:olafvds...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010

[Coapp-developers] W00T: I've got test assemblies to properly demonstrate WinSxS binding policies!

2010-09-10 Thread Garrett Serack
: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

Re: [Coapp-developers] Tool to generate test EXEs and DLLs for packages

2010-09-12 Thread Garrett Serack
@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Jernej Simončič [jernej+s-launch...@eternallybored.org] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:00 AM To: Garrett Serack on [coapp-developers] Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Tool to generate test EXEs and DLLs for packages On Friday, September 10, 2010, 18:23:12

[Coapp-developers] What's goin' down in the CoApp world

2010-09-14 Thread Garrett Serack
. G [Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http

Re: [Coapp-developers] use of static libs permitted?

2010-10-01 Thread Garrett Serack
And this is what I get for travelling ... :D Certainly CoApp supports the use of static libraries; and there is really only a small set of really valuable reasons one might want to use static code. The top of that list, is PGO (Profile Guided optimization) ... by allowing the compiler/linker

[Coapp-developers] Updated coapp-bootstrap

2010-10-12 Thread Garrett Serack
: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp

Re: [Coapp-developers] The insanity that is mkSpec

2010-10-19 Thread Garrett Serack
everything else for CoApp. I only came up with the name this morning :D I'm going to write a proof-of-concept (aka version 1) over the next few days and I'll see how it turns out. Once I have it running, I'll start a wiki page for it. G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft

[Coapp-developers] Progress on mkSpec...

2010-11-11 Thread Garrett Serack
Charron/GNU version=2.0.4.0 author-version=2.0d publisher=Garrett Serack it generates a spec file: (The really really cool part here, is that it automatically guesses the product name by scanning the contents of the source files) ?xml version=1.0? target xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema

Re: [Coapp-developers] Progress on mkSpec...

2010-11-11 Thread Garrett Serack
wanted. Any significant work with shallow forking requires the use of trace/mkSpec/mkProject. G From: Olaf van der Spek [mailto:olafvds...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:49 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Progress

[Coapp-developers] The CoApp site needs some love

2010-11-11 Thread Garrett Serack
are yours to be had! G [Description: Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre

[Coapp-developers] Anyone an expert in MSBuild?

2010-11-15 Thread Garrett Serack
://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp Logo...

2010-11-18 Thread Garrett Serack
Cubes are like boxes. Software comes in Packages. Packages are like boxes. Hence, Cubes are like Packages … I guess. Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From: Tom Hanrahan

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp Logo...

2010-11-18 Thread Garrett Serack
I was feeling 'earthy' the day I did that... I was aiming for colors that were a bit muted-I think that too flashy would be kind of irritating :D G Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better

Re: [Coapp-developers] FYI: Updates and I'm off next week

2010-11-19 Thread Garrett Serack
I'm going to try to avoid that. Really. I swear. *sigh* Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on Windows. From: Eric Schultz [mailto:wwaha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010

Re: [Coapp-developers] The CoApp site needs some love

2010-11-27 Thread Garrett Serack
True. We've found some folks who will be aspiring to keep the news updated (along with the website) -Original Message- From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of

Re: [Coapp-developers] vimeo video, how'd you do it

2010-12-14 Thread Garrett Serack
Powerpoint, a couple of free handwriting fonts, a black felt marker, a scanner and Photoshop. It just requires a degree of effort ... :D G From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Coapp-developers] FYI: Updates and I'm off next week

2011-01-05 Thread Garrett Serack
I was thinking the same thing! I have a hard drive that is about to die, so I have to rebuild my main PC this morning; following that, I’ll get right on it. Garrett Serack | Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use

Re: [Coapp-developers] FYI: Updates and I'm off next week

2011-01-05 Thread Garrett Serack
Well it turns out one of my drives is dying... Smartmon tools can't seem to identify which drive is faulty. *sigh*... From: Olaf van der Spek [olafvds...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:08 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers

[Coapp-developers] FYI... Packages are installing (complete with dependencies!)

2011-01-22 Thread Garrett Serack
Just a heads up... I've been coding like mad to get a managed implementation of the engine running... It's able to install packages and their dependencies given a single package: [cid:image001.png@01CBBA73.EB42A590] http://j.mp/gMWU7y More to come next week! G inline:

[Coapp-developers] A few quick updates

2011-02-03 Thread Garrett Serack
://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939 email/messenger: garre...@microsoft.commailto:garre...@microsoft.com blog: http://fearthecowboy.comhttp://fearthecowboy.com

[Coapp-developers] Oh, by the way

2011-02-03 Thread Garrett Serack
I'm on Skype almost all the time, if anyone wants/needs to talk, feel free to ping me there. My id is: garrett.serack G [Description: Description: Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office

Re: [Coapp-developers] A few quick updates

2011-02-03 Thread Garrett Serack
Awesome! I figure once I get bits into peoples hands, it'll be a lot easier for everyone to find a piece to contribute to. -Original Message- From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net

[Coapp-developers] Package Server Implementation

2011-02-10 Thread Garrett Serack
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Re: [Coapp-developers] A couple more MSI things...

2011-02-16 Thread Garrett Serack
) package is removed, it will by default uninstall all of the child packages that aren't used elsewhere too. G From: Roberto Carlos González Flores [mailto:iscrobertogonza...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:13 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re

[Coapp-developers] First CoApp Alpha bits!!!

2011-03-21 Thread Garrett Serack
with regards to UAC on Win7/Vista ... make sure you're running as admin. Feel free to play around, it doesn't do too damn much without some packages... Eric and I are working quick as we can :D G [Description: Description: Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack

Re: [Coapp-developers] First CoApp Alpha bits!!!

2011-03-21 Thread Garrett Serack
+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Jernej Simončič [jernej+s-launch...@eternallybored.org] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 4:45 PM To: Garrett Serack on [coapp-developers] Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] First CoApp Alpha bits!!! On Monday, March 21, 2011, 22:42:43, Garrett Serack

Re: [Coapp-developers] Simulating Symlinks on Windows XP

2011-04-07 Thread Garrett Serack
for shared libraries, etc), packages should be able to install into a FAT volume. G -Original Message- From: Lee Fisher [mailto:blib...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 10:23 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers

[Coapp-developers] CO_INSTALL_PROPERTIES.type values

2011-04-12 Thread Garrett Serack
, Shortcut, } That'll make sure the Composition Rules parse correctly :D [Description: Description: Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack | Microsoft Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft Corporation Office:(425)706-7939

Re: [Coapp-developers] Ninite

2011-04-12 Thread Garrett Serack
Ninite just puts together a collection of known-working-installers. They pretty much expose the product discovery scenario, and streamline the installation but that's pretty much it. G -Original Message- From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Coapp-developers] Simulating Symlinks on Windows XP

2011-04-12 Thread Garrett Serack
I think it's a testament to Wine if CoApp works on it; less so, vice-versa. I think when we get to CoApp V2 it'll be a bit easier. G From: coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf

Re: [Coapp-developers] Superceeding Packages...

2011-04-12 Thread Garrett Serack
Yeah, that is easy enough to do, and certainly the GUI should be really up front about that. G From: Fredrik Sundqvist [mailto:fsundqv...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:41 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Superceeding

[Coapp-developers] New Blog Post: Binding Events To .NET 4.0 Tasks Instead Of Objects (Part 1) http://j.mp/hfs8p9

2011-04-13 Thread Garrett Serack
I highly recommend anyone who is looking to write code for CoApp to read this; it's the beginning of a series where I'm explaining how some of this stuff works :D http://j.mp/hfs8p9 G [Description: Description: Description: fearthecowboy]http://fearthecowboy.com/ Garrett Serack

Re: [Coapp-developers] Input for Autopackage

2011-04-27 Thread Garrett Serack
From: Philip Allison [mangobr...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:34 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: Eric Schultz; coapp-developers Subject: Re: [Coapp-developers] Input for Autopackage IMHO the quality of parsing validation is just as important as the file format itself

Re: [Coapp-developers] [part1] some comments on MinGW and Gnulib and Shallow-forking a project

2011-05-16 Thread Garrett Serack
Hey Laura! I'm coming in on the tail end of the conversation and haven't had time to keep up with the list of late, so please bear with me. Heh-heh... You've taken some threads and turned it into a tapestry! I gotta split this up to address it all! From what I know of the original MinGW

Re: [Coapp-developers] [Part2] some comments on MinGW and Gnulib and Shallow-forking a project

2011-05-16 Thread Garrett Serack
Part two of the tapestry... I also wanted to weigh in on the shallow-forking thread. If you do get something to build and it is an active project, don't just fork it. Send your changes back to the original developer(s). I've run across a lot of projects no longer actively supported and

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp logo?

2011-05-23 Thread Garrett Serack
Hmm. That's not a bad logo--I'm not sure it's quite right for CoApp either (I'd like to avoid actual letter/letter-like shapes.) For those that don't follow me on twitter; the idea I was playing with this afternoon: http://fearthecowboy.com/stuff/tmp-2011-05-23-024443-0.png I'm looking

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp logo?

2011-05-24 Thread Garrett Serack
You guys are killin' me! My last attempt in November had darker colors; y'all wanted it Brighter ... LOL While I kinda prefer darker palette too, I'm also nervous about what that would look like as an Icon on the desktop... G From:

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp logo?

2011-05-25 Thread Garrett Serack
You have hit the nail on the head. :D G From: Dj Gilcrease [digitalx...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:27 AM To: Garrett Serack Cc: Roberto Carlos González Flores; Eric Schultz; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Coapp

[Coapp-developers] Shallow-forking contest!

2011-06-02 Thread Garrett Serack
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[Coapp-developers] Upcoming Build: CoApp Beta 1

2011-06-02 Thread Garrett Serack
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[Coapp-developers] A new member in CoApp

2011-06-02 Thread Garrett Serack
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Re: [Coapp-developers] Shallow-forking contest!

2011-06-02 Thread Garrett Serack
Wow. Github's issue tracking is freakin' awesome. Everyone: WATCH THE VIDEO. (Especially Elizabeth, who seems to uncover bugs by just breathing.) G From: Tom Hanrahan Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:54 AM To: Garrett Serack; coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: RE: Shallow-forking

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