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Cocoa-related resources
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Cocoa-related resources that may answer your question without the need to wait for a reply from the list:


Apple's documentation
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    The Cocoa Getting Started page.
If you haven't read any Cocoa documentation and want to learn about
        the technology, you should begin with this.
<http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/GS_Cocoa/ >

Main documentation links:
    <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/>
    <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Cocoa.html>


Apple produces several kinds of documentation. For an overview of how to use the documentation, see:

    <http://developer.apple.com/referencelibrary/usingreflib.html>
and
    <http://developer.apple.com/macosx/newinreflibrary.html>

* Finding documentation

If you are not sure where to find documentation relevant to your problem, a useful strategy is to go to the API reference for a relevant class and look at its companion document. You can also search the online documentation suite using the search field at the top right of the page (see, for example, <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/index.html >). It is often a good idea to check the "Restrict to Cocoa" box. If you need more precise search, you can use the Advanced Search panel at <http://developer.apple.com/search/>.

Remember you can also view and search the documentation in Xcode -- see the "Help" menu. You can see all the methods associated with a class (and links to relevant documentation) using Xcode's Class Browser (see the Project > Class Browser menu item). In Xcode, you can Option-double-click on a symbol to look it up in the documentation, and you can Command-double-click on a symbol to go to the header file in which it is declared.


* Keeping documentation up-to-date

You can keep your local documentation up-to-date by using the Documentation update preference in Xcode. Apple's developer documentation is updated en bloc about once a month. An update package is made available at about the same time that updates are published on the web site.



Code examples
-------------

Apple provides code samples in two places, on-disk (installed with the developer tools) and online:

    Developer examples
    <file:///Developer/Examples/AppKit/>

    ADC
    <http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/>


Online resources
----------------

    "UNOFFICIAL Cocoa-dev Frequently Asked Questions"
    <http://www.alastairs-place.net/cocoa/faq.txt>
Especially useful for pointers to documents relating to memory management
        and book recommendations


    List archives
    <http://lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev>


    Combined Apple and Omni Cocoa developer list archives
    <http://www.cocoabuilder.com/>


    Cocoa-related sites
    <http://www.cocoadev.com/>
    <http://www.cocoadevcentral.com/>
    <http://www.stepwise.com/>


    Cocoa Bindings
<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CocoaBindings/ > <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/CocoaBindingsRef/ >
    <http://developer.apple.com/cocoa/cocoabindings.html>
    <http://homepage.mac.com/mmalc/CocoaExamples/controllers.html>
    <http://www.cocoadevcentral.com/articles/000080.php>
    <http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/04/06/cocoa.html>


    Google
    <http://www.google.com/>
(It is sometimes the case that using the subject line of a post as a search term in Google will yield an answer. If this is the case, you have probably not invested sufficient effort into finding an answer to your problem, and you are likely to receive a reprimand.)


Memory management
-----------------

Developers are strongly discouraged from attempting to reformulate Cocoa's memory management rules in posts to the list. Almost invariably, someone makes a subtle or not-so-subtle mistake which then results in confusion and additional messages to resolve the issue. Simply post links to the relevant documentation, such as: <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/MemoryMgmt/Tasks/MemoryManagementRules.html > Links to other reviewed articles that discuss memory management are given in <http://www.alastairs-place.net/cocoa/faq.txt>



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