Re: Build broken

2003-03-25 Thread Upayavira
On 25 Mar 2003 at 16:57, Jeff Turner wrote: Seems the new location of what was the 'validate-jar' target is causing problems: old/home/jeff/homeoverflow/apache/xml/cocoon-2.1/tools/src/check-jars. xsl:89:36: Warning! File lib/core/util.concurrent-1.3.1.jar is declared in lib/jars.xml,

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/resources/targetdocs - New directory

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 24/03/2003 18.53: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stephan 2003/03/22 08:44:07 cocoon-2.1/src/resources/targetdocs - New directory Hmmm, I don't want to rain on the party here, but those diagrams are useless if they can't be automated as

RE: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Great! I wanted to propose exactly the same next week, you must read my mind sometimes :) So, a big +1 for only a source dist. Carsten -Original Message- From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:25 PM To: Apache Cocoon Subject: [proposal] a

RE: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten -Original Message- From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:55 AM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Geoff

Re: Build broken

2003-03-25 Thread Antonio Gallardo
old/home/jeff/homeoverflow/apache/xml/cocoon-2.1/tools/src/check-jars. xsl:89:36: Warning! File lib/core/util.concurrent-1.3.1.jar is declared in lib/jars.xml, but doesn't appear in the lib/ directory. If this file was removed, please update the lib/jars.xml file to remove this file

RE: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten -Original Message- From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:22 AM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Andrew

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 24/3/03 9:13 am, Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:31:39AM +0100, Steven Noels wrote: In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a separate CVS module

Re: Proposal

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Leszek Gawron wrote: I think it would be good to include AJP13 Listener in Jety config file so one could use Apache frontend OOTB read this: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy

Re: [rant] Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docsCVS module

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 24/3/03 3:09 pm, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, we can't force people to do anything: if they won't migrate from 2.0, we have failed and we should start reconsidering our architectural strategies because our user base is not following us. Hmm.. I

Re: Proposal

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Geoff Howard wrote: On a side note, I looked at Cocoon a full year (or so) before I started using it and just passed it by because I couldn't quickly see if it could do what I wanted, and assumed it didn't. Just trying to learn from that now that I'm on the other side of the fence. This is

Re: Build broken

2003-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 25 mars 2003, à 09:23 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit : ...No, it should just be called core/util.concurrent... not lib/core/util.concurrent. However, fix that one, and you'll get the Batik block complaining about a missing jar. I didn't work that one out i'm afraid. I corrected the

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVSmodule

2003-03-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 25/3/03 9:14 am, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: Folks, do you know that there's the possibility to alias certain subparts of a particular CVS repository from another repository? Like cocoon-2.1/src/docs can be stored in the cocoon-docs repository.

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christopher Oliver wrote: Yesterday, I was trying to create another view for the flow layer, similar to a subset of JSTL, using Jexl http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/jexl I started with Marcus Crafter's JPathTransformer, and in the process of writing JexlTransformer, I also attempted to add

JAX2003 was: Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Stephan Michels
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 24/3/03 6:12 pm, Andrew Savory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Marcus Crafter wrote: +1 from me, when will you be back in Frankfurt again Andrew ? :) Soon, I hope - withdrawal symptoms from German beer! Any plans for

Re: [rant] Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation ofcocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 25/3/03 9:23 am, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 24/3/03 3:09 pm, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, we can't force people to do anything: if they won't migrate from 2.0, we have failed and we should start reconsidering our

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1 status.xml todo.xml

2003-03-25 Thread Stephan Michels
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crossley2003/03/22 23:17:16 Modified:.status.xml todo.xml Log: Note about the excellent old functionality to check-jars. Revision ChangesPath 1.2 +5 -0

Re: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 12:55:19AM +1100, David Crossley wrote: I propose Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer. He has been involved with Cocoon for the past year, providing lots of useful discussion and bug report/fixing. He has submitted many useful patches, for example with the file upload. He

Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Andrew, On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 06:12:50PM +, Andrew Savory wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Marcus Crafter wrote: +1 from me, when will you be back in Frankfurt again Andrew ? :) Soon, I hope - withdrawal symptoms from German beer! Any plans for another Stammtisch soon?

[GUMP] Build Failure - Cocoon

2003-03-25 Thread Gump
Cocoon 20030325 [1999-2003] [echo] +---+ [echo] Building with Apache Ant version 1.6alpha compiled on March 25 2003 [echo] using build file /home/rubys/jakarta/cocoon-2.1/build.xml [echo] Compiling

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1 status.xml todo.xml

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Stephan Michels wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crossley2003/03/22 23:17:16 Modified:.status.xml todo.xml Log: Note about the excellent old functionality to check-jars. Revision ChangesPath 1.2 +5 -0

Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Andrew Savory
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Marcus Crafter wrote: Well, we just have to organise another date, any preference mate ? Some time toward the end of April might be good, although are you heading over for XML Europe? I won't be attending (too pricey), but it would be cool to have a Cocoon london meet

Re: [GUMP] Build Failure - Cocoon

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
] Apache Cocoon 20030325 [1999-2003] [echo] +---+ [echo] Building with Apache Ant version 1.6alpha compiled on March 25 2003 [echo] using build file /home/rubys/jakarta/cocoon-2.1/build.xml

RE: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-25 Thread John Morrison
From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Locally, referenced via a path set in a configuration file. If code repos aren't available/downloaded, info can also be looked up online via a parsed view-cvs data. Still, I don't think it's too much to expect from committers, to have all

Re: Proposal

2003-03-25 Thread Leszek Gawron
On wto, mar 25, 2003 at 10:17:40 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: I think it would be good to include AJP13 Listener in Jety config file so one could use Apache frontend OOTB read this: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy I have completely no

Great progress!!!

2003-03-25 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
Hi folks! Just to tell you that after a long time I've at last checked out the latest Cocoon and was amazed by its improved usability. We finally have a good looking and quite friendly welcome page. As I can see there is a lot of work still to be done: refactor samples, use Forrestized docs, add

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-25 Thread Stephan Michels
So, at the end, here is what I propose: 1) we remove all the old docs targets from the build 2) documentation will be done thru forrest. This requires forrest be available on the machine separately. since users won't update the documentation this should not be a problem. 3) we ship the

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Stephan Michels
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: In the beginning, there was only one cocoon distribution, packaged with two different packagers (zip for windows and tar.gz for unix and friends). Then cocoon became very complex and we decided to create a binary distribution to make things

Re: [Flow] sendPage* params and jpath input modules?

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Melhem
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:12:31PM -0800, Christopher Oliver wrote: Hi Christopher, Michael, Can you describe the use case(s) where you want to make flow values available to the sitemap? Well, as I outlined in the original mail, the basic use of this would be to help rid the sitemap of

treeprocessor question

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Is it currently possible to write a sitemap without the map:components element alltogether and let it inherit everything from the above sitemap? If not, why? If so, there are issues with this? TIA Stefano.

another question on treeprocessor

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
is error-handling inherited? if not, why? if so, are there any drawbacks? TIA Stefano.

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Stephan Michels wrote: So, at the end, here is what I propose: 1) we remove all the old docs targets from the build 2) documentation will be done thru forrest. This requires forrest be available on the machine separately. since users won't update the documentation this should not be a problem.

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Stephan Michels wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: In the beginning, there was only one cocoon distribution, packaged with two different packagers (zip for windows and tar.gz for unix and friends). Then cocoon became very complex and we decided to create a binary distribution

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-25 Thread Christopher Oliver
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Yesterday, I was trying to create another view for the flow layer, similar to a subset of JSTL, using Jexl http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/jexl I started with Marcus Crafter's JPathTransformer, and in the process of writing JexlTransformer,

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread J.D. Daniels
So I whould like a solution there we offer a source distribution, and binary distribution with a war, which includes all samples, and one clean war. So the user can first download the bin-dist, test all samples, and experimentalize with the clean webapp. And then he is glad and want

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Geoff Howard
At 12:11 PM 3/25/2003, you wrote: So I whould like a solution there we offer a source distribution, and binary distribution with a war, which includes all samples, and one clean war. So the user can first download the bin-dist, test all samples, and experimentalize with the clean webapp.

Re: treeprocessor question

2003-03-25 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Is it currently possible to write a sitemap without the map:components element alltogether and let it inherit everything from the above sitemap? Yes. This is taken care of in SitemapLanguage.java If not, why? If so, there are issues with this? Issues ? No that I'm

CVS question

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
a CVS question now :) if I incorrectly checked it a text file as binary (well, I didn't, it's eclipse that transparently does it until you find out and fix it! grrr) how do i change it back to text? TIA Stefano.

Who's/what is Yoshi ?

2003-03-25 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, The flow PetStore demo uses a yoshi object to hold a couple of utility objects such as a DateFormat. So far so good, but what does Yoshi mean ? I guess it's a Japanese word, but Google gives some funny results : - Yoshi the pig : http://www.slip.net/~atombee/yoshi2.html - Yoshi the

Re: [GUMP] Project(s) dropped

2003-03-25 Thread Sam Ruby
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ah, Sam, Steven, how do I access that cocoon-special gump stuff on cocoondev.org? that would likely reduce the try/fail cycle of 24 hours that is driving me nuts! Please try the instructions I left at the following URL and let me know how it goes:

Re: CVS question

2003-03-25 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 17:26, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: a CVS question now :) if I incorrectly checked it a text file as binary (well, I didn't, it's eclipse that transparently does it until you find out and fix it! grrr) how do i change it back to text? I think this should do it: cvs

Re: Who's/what is Yoshi ?

2003-03-25 Thread Christopher Oliver
I think it's the name of a jsp tag library used in the original struts application: I'll change it to fmt in the petstore example to avoid confusion in the future. Regards, Chris Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, The flow PetStore demo uses a yoshi object to hold a couple of utility objects

Re: Scratchpad PetStore Sample and XMLForm

2003-03-25 Thread leo leonid
Hi Christopher, on http://proto2.leonid.de are some simple modification for integrating the X-Form-EditAccount-Form to the rest. /Leo On Montag, März 24, 2003, at 08:23 Uhr, Christopher Oliver wrote: No, XMLForm will still behave the same way. It's just a change to the implementation to make

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Stephan Michels
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, J.D. Daniels wrote: So I whould like a solution there we offer a source distribution, and binary distribution with a war, which includes all samples, and one clean war. So the user can first download the bin-dist, test all samples, and experimentalize with the

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
J.D. Daniels wrote: Cocoon is not an app. It is a framework. Amen! And our users are not idiots, but experienced web programmers. Let's treat them as such. Stefano.

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flowinvalidContinuation.xml

2003-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crafterm2003/03/25 08:44:31 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flow invalidContinuation.xml Log: * Fixing build (file fails validation) ok, damn, forgot to remove that sorry. Stefano.

Re: treeprocessor question

2003-03-25 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sylvain Wallez wrote, On 25/03/2003 17.24: ... Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: is error-handling inherited? Yes ... if so, are there any drawbacks? Drawbacks ? No that I'm aware of... ;-) AFAIK and from use cases I've seen it's a welcome feature; it's quite common to keep it only in the main sitemap

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 18331] New: - LinkRewriterTransformer ignores exclude-schemes parameter

2003-03-25 Thread bugzilla
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 18331] - LinkRewriterTransformer ignores exclude-schemes parameter

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Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Morten Ludvigsen
Hi, sorry to butt in like this, but I am a newcomer to Cocoon, and I must say I am a bit worried by this suggestion. Trying to build Cocoon 2.1 dev on my W2K work station has proved a bit of a head ache. I have checked the newest version from CVS to C:\Src\new_cocoon-2.1 on my machine. When I

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread J.D. Daniels
No no, it's very useful. Maybe I'm wrong :-/ I only want to prevent that users be scared by the installation, which takes sometimes a lot of time and knowledge. I'm, for example, very impatient, if some software takes too much time, or too many dependencies just for the first look, then I

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stephan Michels wrote, On 25/03/2003 18.46: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, J.D. Daniels wrote: ... See where I am going here? This is what (IMHO) most of new cocoon users are like. We are experienced developers. but chances are we won't be java aware so the idea of two extra binaries will, i think

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread J.D. Daniels
Again I repeat my suggestion... what about driving users to Forrest for the impatient? It also contains preconfigured stuff for site building, it seems perfect for the impatient, no? -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry I missed it the first time around. Yes.

Re: Scratchpad PetStore Sample and XMLForm

2003-03-25 Thread Christopher Oliver
Thanks, Leo. OK. I committed your changes. But shouldn't there be a reusable template for translating XMLForm controls to html, that could be plugged into your application somehow, rather than having to incorporate it into the application's stylesheet(s)? Regards, Chris leo leonid wrote: Hi

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
On Sunday 23 March 2003 15:25, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [snip] I propose to ship Cocoon 2.1 *AS IS*, sort of a cleaned-up version of our current CVS and improve a little the 'INSTALL.txt' doc that will suggest you to do $ ./build.sh $ ./cocoon.sh servlet Isn't it possible to make

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Am I the only one who heard complains about cocoon being very cool but too hard to 'tune down' to simpler needs? I'm asking because I'm starting to wonder if this is the case. puzzled/ It's still 116 mails to go... But no, you are not alone. Vadim

Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
+1 Vadim

Re: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
+1 Vadim

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVSmodule

2003-03-25 Thread David Crossley
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: snip/ Folks, do you know that there's the possibility to alias certain subparts of a particular CVS repository from another repository? Like cocoon-2.1/src/docs can be stored in the cocoon-docs repository. Apache does it already

Re: another question on treeprocessor

2003-03-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: is error-handling inherited? Only when map:mount / is inside pipeline containing error handler; then this handler is inherited, so to speak. Anything else is a bug. AFAIK, 2.0 compiled sitemap is 99.9% bug-less (and 0.1% takes views must start from the last label

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Christopher Oliver wrote: snip/ Anyway, I was trying to get both of these to be equal in functionality with Velocity and the JPath Xsp logic sheet. snip/ This is equivalent to the functionality Ovidiu included in the jpath Xsp logic sheet. And this is the functionality that JexlTransformer and

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flowinvalidContinuation.xml

2003-03-25 Thread David Crossley
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified: src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flow invalidContinuation.xml Log: * Fixing build (file fails validation) snip/ -!DOCTYPE document PUBLIC -//APACHE//DTD Documentation V1.0//EN

Re: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-25 Thread David Crossley
Jeremy Quinn wrote: David Crossley wrote: Jeremy Quinn wrote: snip/ OK This still fails: http://localhost:/samples/catalog/sdocbook-demo org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Failed to execute pipeline.: java.io.FileNotFoundException:

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation ofcocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-25 Thread David Crossley
Steven Noels wrote: snip/ Yep, this is quite some murky vote, and some tallying indeed does help. I think that the murkiness is a result of not having a proposal and subsequent discussion before calling a vote. --David

Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist' (Forrest for binary dist)

2003-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 25 mars 2003, à 20:36 Europe/Zurich, Nicola Ken Barozzi a écrit : Again I repeat my suggestion... what about driving users to Forrest for the impatient? It also contains preconfigured stuff for site building, it seems perfect for the impatient, no? I also missed it the first time

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-25 Thread David Crossley
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Stephan Michels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ So, at the end, here is what I propose: 1) we remove all the old docs targets from the build To remove the build docs target, i agree. To remove the webapp docs generation, i do not agree. 2) documentation

RE: CVS question

2003-03-25 Thread volker . schmitt
using Eclipse 2.1 or 2.0.2 you can click (right) on a file or directory and select Team/Change ASCII Binary Property Volker

Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
+1 Konstantin +1 Vadim

Re: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
+1 Konstantin +1 Vadim

RE: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-25 Thread Geoff Howard
Ok, you're not crazy - the build is in fact broken. Sort of. What is broken is an old validation target that was recently put back in (validate-jars in src/targets/validate-build.xml). It appears that everything is actually built correctly, but this old target has not been correctly updated to

RE: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-25 Thread Geoff Howard
Here are two patches to do this. One simply adds a new validate.jars property to build.properties and sets it to false by default for now. The other uses this property to set up an unless property, and an unless attribute on the validate-jars target. I can submit these to bugzilla, but thought