Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 7:18 AM Jeff Turner wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 01:44:45AM -0500, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: How? Using a link-translating protocol. Example: html head ... link src=link:/styles/main.css ... Hooray ;) For those who didn't know, this is what the linkrewriter

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 2:33 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: snips cause=agree or dont't understand implications enough to talk/ Le Mardi, 27 mai 2003, à 08:44 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ... 2) design for safety: the flow will be a center of abuse because people will find it easier to

Re: Scheduling service

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 9:12 AM Mato Mira, Fernando wrote: It would be nice if Cocoon had an scheduling service for background tasks. For example, I have to keep alive a SOAP service session by sending it requests once a minute. What about changing the expiration time of the session? -- Stefano.

Re: Scheduling service

2003-05-27 Thread Berin Loritsch
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 5/27/03 9:12 AM Mato Mira, Fernando wrote: It would be nice if Cocoon had an scheduling service for background tasks. For example, I have to keep alive a SOAP service session by sending it requests once a minute. What about changing the expiration time of the

Re: Scheduling service

2003-05-27 Thread David Kavanagh
Yup, my task manager uses the CommandManager (and the scheduler stuff from Cornerstone). David Berin Loritsch wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 5/27/03 9:12 AM Mato Mira, Fernando wrote: It would be nice if Cocoon had an scheduling service for background tasks. For example, I have to keep

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 4:06 AM Sylvain Wallez wrote: Object getComponent(id) - obtains the component indicated by the given ID Why don't you use the traditional lookup() name ? Also, release() is missing. So what about lookupComponent(id) and releaseComponent(id)? release() is missing on purpose. It

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 1:44 AM Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Pier and I already stated a while back that our current implementation of the FOM is weak and its design poor. In the past, it was exactly such comments that made Ovidiu abandon this community. Let me state things clearly so that we can clear the

Re: Views Internal-Only [Re: [RT] XMLForm]

2003-05-27 Thread Ugo Cei
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: So, this thread is about calling only internal-pipelines from the flow view sendPage() etc, right? Right :-). Ugo

XPathDirectoryGenerator

2003-05-27 Thread Torsten Knodt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm currently working on my patchset of the week ;). One part is a modularized DirectoryGenerator. The only what is currently not included is the XPathDirectoryGenerator. As it can simply be simulated by XInclude, why having the code

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ This is, IMO, what the FOM requires. Nothing less, nothing more. But let me explain why I consider flow-driven URI handling harmful. Today, once you mount your web application, you don't know where it resides. In order to keep your webapp

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Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Geoff Howard
At 01:05 PM 5/27/2003, Stefano wrote: on 5/27/03 4:06 AM Sylvain Wallez wrote: ... void callAction(name,map) - invoques the action indicated by the given name and pass the given map as model NOTE: I personally believe that the getComponent() method removes all needs for the callAction() method.

cvs commit: cocoon-site/src/documentation skinconf.xml

2003-05-27 Thread stevenn
stevenn 2003/05/27 13:20:00 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs index.xml site.xml whoweare.xml src/documentation/resources/images cocoon-logo.gif src/documentation skinconf.xml Added: src/documentation/resources/images

RE: XPathDirectoryGenerator

2003-05-27 Thread Conal Tuohy
Torsten Knodt wrote: Hello, I'm currently working on my patchset of the week ;). One part is a modularized DirectoryGenerator. The only what is currently not included is the XPathDirectoryGenerator. As it can simply be simulated by XInclude, why having the code doubled? Or have I

Re: XPathDirectoryGenerator

2003-05-27 Thread Torsten Knodt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 May 2003 22:29, Conal Tuohy wrote: CT Torsten Knodt wrote: CT TK Hello, CT TK I'm currently working on my patchset of the week ;). One part CT TK is a modularized CT TK DirectoryGenerator. The only what is currently not included is the

Re: XPathDirectoryGenerator

2003-05-27 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Torsten Knodt wrote: CT Also, is XPathDirectoryGenerator cachable? Code looks like DirectoryGenerators are cacheable. The documentations says no. I'm not yet an expert there in. Hello Thorsten, this feature is only two weeks old: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10528587111r=1w=2. Regards,

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 5/27/03 4:06 AM Sylvain Wallez wrote: Object getComponent(id) - obtains the component indicated by the given ID Why don't you use the traditional lookup() name ? Also, release() is missing. So what about lookupComponent(id) and releaseComponent(id)? release()

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 5/27/03 1:44 AM Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Pier and I already stated a while back that our current implementation of the FOM is weak and its design poor. In the past, it was exactly such comments that made Ovidiu abandon this community. Let me state things

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 5/27/03 2:33 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: snips cause=agree or dont't understand implications enough to talk/ Le Mardi, 27 mai 2003, à 08:44 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ... 2) design for safety: the flow will be a center of abuse because people

Re: XPathDirectoryGenerator

2003-05-27 Thread Torsten Knodt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 May 2003 23:14, Joerg Heinicke wrote: JH Torsten Knodt wrote: JH TK CT Also, is XPathDirectoryGenerator cachable? JH TK Code looks like DirectoryGenerators are cacheable. The documentations JH TK says no. I'm not yet an expert there in.

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 4:20 PM Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ovidiu, please excuse me for copying you on this, but I would like to let you and everybody else know this: Stefano, seems like you were too fast at sending and forgot to CC Ovidiu... No, I did copy him. But the problem is

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 1:05 PM Geoff Howard wrote: At 01:05 PM 5/27/2003, Stefano wrote: on 5/27/03 4:06 AM Sylvain Wallez wrote: void callAction(name,map) - invoques the action indicated by the given name and pass the given map as model NOTE: I personally believe that the getComponent()

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 2:25 PM Giacomo Pati wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ This is, IMO, what the FOM requires. Nothing less, nothing more. But let me explain why I consider flow-driven URI handling harmful. Today, once you mount your web application, you don't know where

Re: [RT] FOM

2003-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 5/27/03 4:19 PM Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ok. By component, I actually meant instance obtained by lookup() or getComponent(). Then we have a big problem here : automatic component release is very likely to be handled by the container at special times such as end of request processing. This

Re: Unplugging

2003-05-27 Thread David Crossley
Thanks Tony, for all the excellent contributions that you have made while you have been with us. Hope to see you back again sometime. You are not alone with the burn-out issue. Wishing you all the best. --David Tony Collen wrote: Hi everybody, I've decided to unplug for a while. I'm in the

start of jms block

2003-05-27 Thread Geoff Howard
ok, I've attached the quick start of a jms block which still has a good amount of unresolved issues. Among them: - needs jms.jar in its lib dir (this would have to be mocks if it went in cvs as I understand the license issues?) - needs entry in gump descriptor - best way to handle MessageListener

Re: FOP/HSSFSerializer's and non-english characters

2003-05-27 Thread Yury Mikhienko
On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:23:33 -0400 Vadim Gritsenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yury Mikhienko wrote: Hi all! Cocoon's FOP/HSSFSerializer still does not support non-english characters, can I solve this problem? What can I do for this? Yury: FOP supports non-english characters. Get

Overloaded pipeline elements (Was Re: [RT] FOM)

2003-05-27 Thread Miles Elam
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 5/27/03 4:19 PM Sylvain Wallez wrote: How is this different from a resource? Resources also allow to define overloaded generators and transformers. So do we really need a new concept ? ... Resources were supposed to be reusable pipelines, but *complete* ones!

Re: [RT] FOM (session/continuation DOS attacks)

2003-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 27 mai 2003, à 18:33 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : on 5/27/03 2:33 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...I like that, but isn't there a possible attack where a client makes a lot of requests without cookies/session IDs, and overflows the poor server who's creating millions of