Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
If noone is against it, I will request for moving the mailing-lists tomorrow (before the beta release). I think we have to move these mailinglists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I forget anything? Carsten

RE: Welcome the new ASF members

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: It is with real pleasure that I announce that three cocoon committers were elected members of the ASF in the last round of votation that ended today. Vadim, Sylvain and Carsten (in alphabetical order by their last names) Hoping that they will accept the

Re: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 08:31 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : If noone is against it, I will request for moving the mailing-lists tomorrow (before the beta release). Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new archives? I assume there are going to be

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Christopher Oliver wrote: Your experience is the same as mine. The Rhino core needs to be refactored to be extensible in order to allow multiple interpreters such as the one that supports continuations. Ouch. :-/ Do you envision other needs for extended interpreters? I doubt that the Rhino guys

RE: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 08:31 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : If noone is against it, I will request for moving the mailing-lists tomorrow (before the beta release). Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new

Re: [vote] Reinhard Potz as a Cocoon committer

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: I propose Reinhard Pötz to be a Cocoon committer. The summary so far is 21 positive votes and no negative votes. Is there an official duration that i have to wait before asking root to set up the account? It has been about 2.5 days so far. I want to do it ASAP, but don't

Re: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 08:31 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : If noone is against it, I will request for moving the mailing-lists tomorrow (before the beta release). Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old

Re: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 09:27 Europe/Zurich, Gianugo Rabellino a écrit : ...AFAIK you have to ask MARC to subscribe to the new lists: by sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject Add a list to MARC But won't this create two archives for each list, one with the old and one with

RE: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: snip/ Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new archives? No :( - to be honest, I haven't thought about the archives. I thought that the archives would be somehow moved as well. Hmm, does anyone know more

Re: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 09:27 Europe/Zurich, Gianugo Rabellino a écrit : ...AFAIK you have to ask MARC to subscribe to the new lists: by sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject Add a list to MARC But won't this create two archives for each list, one

RE: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: snip/ Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new archives? No :( - to be honest, I haven't thought about the archives. I thought that the archives would be somehow moved as

RE: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: David Crossley wrote: snip/ Geoff and i both asked that question the last time this issue arose, Asking Pier if he was sure that there were no side effects. Pier answered with a flat Yes :-) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=104977664610528 go

Re: commit access on Cocoon for sub project committers

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Wechner
Joerg Heinicke wrote: snip / and here. If people are already committers for a sub project, there is no problem if they (or their community) ask for committer access on Cocoon. Similar like Cocoon/Excalibur. Cocoon committers don't have commit access on the sub projects, do they? AFAIK they

Re: commit access on Cocoon for sub project committers

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Hmmm, if this is the case, that even Forrest committers has to have this kind of right. [RT] Why Forrest is not/does not become a subproject of Cocoon while it's so heavily based on it? Definitely something to consider, it makes a lot of sense. Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino

Re: ResourceExistsAction

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Wechner
Jeff Turner wrote: Michael Wechner wrote: snip / If it seems to work and you've got commit access, I'd say just add it to CVS. People will review the commit log and hopefully spot any big problems. ok. But I think I will wait until Cocooners make a decision if committers from subprojects

Re: commit access on Cocoon for sub project committers

2003-06-24 Thread Steven Noels
On 24/06/2003 10:02 Michael Wechner wrote: and here. If people are already committers for a sub project, there is no problem if they (or their community) ask for committer access on Cocoon. Similar like Cocoon/Excalibur. Cocoon committers don't have commit access on the sub projects, do they?

Re: [Flow] Preparing the vote - long!

2003-06-24 Thread Christian Haul
On 23.Jun.2003 -- 05:30 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 6/22/03 5:06 AM Christian Haul wrote: Although I don't like to mention it, action are dual use and by removing special support and restricting access to non-sitemap components they are completely banned. Yes, that's the

Re: commit access on Cocoon for sub project committers

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: Hmmm, if this is the case, that even Forrest committers has to have this kind of right. [RT] Why Forrest is not/does not become a subproject of Cocoon while it's so heavily based on it? Definitely something to consider, it makes a

Re: Moving Mailing-Lists (Wiki page for info about the move)

2003-06-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 09:47 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit : ...Great, but is that just because MARC is such an excellent provider. I wonder about the other mail archiving hosts Which means we must provide some info about the consequences of the move. I have added a section on

Re: FOM, views, and input modules

2003-06-24 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 04:57 AM, Christopher Oliver wrote: I modified the FOM implementation in the scratchpad to make the FOM available to the view layer, thinking that the view author also should see the FOM (See FOM_JavaScriptFlowHelper.java), rather than the raw Request, Response,

Re: commit access on Cocoon for sub project committers

2003-06-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
David Crossley wrote, On 24/06/2003 10.23: Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: Hmmm, if this is the case, that even Forrest committers has to have this kind of right. [RT] Why Forrest is not/does not become a subproject of Cocoon while it's so heavily based on it? Definitely

Re: ResourceExistsAction

2003-06-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 24/06/2003 0.53: on 6/23/03 6:22 AM Steven Noels wrote: On 23/06/2003 11:18 John Morrison wrote: Sure! Patches always welcome :) Technically, all Lenya people have Cocoon CVS commit karma if I read the avail file correctly. Hmmm, if this is the case, that even

cvs commit: cocoon-site/src/documentation/content/xdocs/news index.xml

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 04:09:34 Modified:site history.html whoweare.html index.html changes.html site/community members.html site/news archives.html index.html src/documentation/content/xdocs/news index.xml Log: Adding news Revision

[GUMP] Project(s) dropped

2003-06-24 Thread Sam Ruby
This email is autogenerated from the output from: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/2003-06-24/gump.html Buildfile: build.xml platform_props: compile: [mkdir] Created dir:

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation skinconf.xml

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 04:31:53 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs book.xml src/documentation skinconf.xml Removed: src/documentation/xdocs news.xml Log: Moving news to top-level removing xml.apache.org trail Revision ChangesPath 1.7 +1 -1

cvs commit: cocoon-2.0/src/documentation/xdocs book.xml news.xml

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 04:33:09 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs book.xml Removed: src/documentation/xdocs news.xml Log: Moving news to top-level Revision ChangesPath 1.5 +1 -1 cocoon-2.0/src/documentation/xdocs/book.xml Index: book.xml

[VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Jeff Turner
As most of you probably saw, there's a thread on cocoon-dev suggesting that Forrest ought to be a Cocoon subproject, with the consensus being it makes sense. AFAICT the only practical difference would be that Cocoon committers would automatically become Forrest committers. Sounds fine to me.

RE: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread John Morrison
From: Jeff Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Vote 1: Cocoon committers automatically become Forrest committers +1 Vote 2: Forrest should become a subproject of Cocoon (http://cocoon.apache.org/forrest) +0 J.

Re: How ASF membership works and what it means

2003-06-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Ted Leung wrote: ..cut.. - Organisationally xml and java are still lagging behind; but have been catching up (though the catch up has slowed down somewhat due to a much larger influx from the old school side; and that influx is by average younger than

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/targets compile-build.xml

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 05:02:41 Modified:src/targets compile-build.xml Log: Don't include manifest as a separate file Revision ChangesPath 1.12 +3 -1 cocoon-2.1/src/targets/compile-build.xml Index: compile-build.xml

Re: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Jeff Turner wrote, On 24/06/2003 13.38: As most of you probably saw, there's a thread on cocoon-dev suggesting that Forrest ought to be a Cocoon subproject, with the consensus being it makes sense. AFAICT the only practical difference would be that Cocoon committers would automatically become

RE: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Jeff Turner wrote, On 24/06/2003 13.38: As most of you probably saw, there's a thread on cocoon-dev suggesting that Forrest ought to be a Cocoon subproject, with the consensus being it makes sense. AFAICT the only practical difference would be that

XSLTC work and ActiveState Active Awards 2003

2003-06-24 Thread Jacek Ambroziak
It was a very nice surprise for me to find myself among XSLT celebs in this year's Programmers' Choice Nominations: see below (and VOTE :-) http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/ActiveAwards/ --Jacek PS. I am also delighted to see that XSLTC, as part of Xalan, now ships in volume with IBM's

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/databases/conf blob.xconf

2003-06-24 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cziegeler2003/06/23 11:18:39 Modified:src/blocks/databases/conf blob.xconf Log: Updating to latest excalibur datasource - no more JVM dependency :) Move BlobSource into databases block Revision ChangesPath 1.2 +1 -1

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/databases/conf blob.xconf

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: !-- blob pseudo protocol -- -protocol name=blob class=org.apache.cocoon.components.source.impl.BlobSourceFactory/ +component-instance name=blob class=org.apache.cocoon.components.source.impl.BlobSourceFactory/ Why this change? Anyways,

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/databases/conf blob.xconf

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 05:45:45 Modified:src/blocks/databases/conf blob.xconf Log: Correcting configuration - Thanks, Vadim Revision ChangesPath 1.3 +1 -1 cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/databases/conf/blob.xconf Index: blob.xconf

Where is 2.1beta1?

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Team, where is 2.1beta1? - Well, due to some lack of time, I will be doing the release either on friday or on monday - I actually prefer monday as I don't like releasing something on fridays. Anyway, also this sounds like a bad news (another delay), it's actually a good one! This gives us

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/source/impl SitemapSource.java

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 05:55:13 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/source/impl SitemapSource.java Log: Fixing double invocation of internal pipelines Revision ChangesPath 1.7 +1 -7

Re: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Geoff Howard
At 07:38 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: Vote 1: Cocoon committers automatically become Forrest committers +1 except I don't see how we can mandate this if they are not a subproject. Vote 2: Forrest should become a subproject of Cocoon (http://cocoon.apache.org/forrest) +1 if they want to. it seems to

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Your experience is the same as mine. The Rhino core needs to be refactored to be extensible in order to allow multiple interpreters such as the one that supports continuations. Ouch. :-/ Do you envision other needs for extended interpreters? I doubt that the Rhino guys

Re: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: snip/ Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new archives? No :( - to be honest, I haven't thought about the archives. I thought that the archives would be somehow

Cocoon Resources Books

2003-06-24 Thread Gururaja H
Hi, I am new to cocoon. Please give me good cocoon resources on web and alsobooks. Thanks.David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gururaja H wrote: I am having problem installing cocoon 2.0.4 on Tomcat 4.1.18 on Windows 2000(on Sun J2SDK 1.3.1_08. I have down loaded the prebuilt library and

Re: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Marc Portier
John Morrison wrote: From: Jeff Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Vote 1: Cocoon committers automatically become Forrest committers +1 +1 Vote 2: Forrest should become a subproject of Cocoon (http://cocoon.apache.org/forrest) +0 +0 J. -marc= -- Marc Portier

Re: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Steven Noels
On 24/06/2003 13:38 Jeff Turner wrote: I vote +1 and +/-0. Both make sense, but 2) seems slightly more pain than gain, unless there's some advantage I've overlooked. +1 /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/environment/http HttpEnvironment.java HttpResponse.java

2003-06-24 Thread upayavira
upayavira2003/06/24 08:20:29 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/treeprocessor/sitemap RedirectToNodeBuilder.java RedirectToURINode.java src/java/org/apache/cocoon/environment ForwardRedirector.java

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Christopher Oliver
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Your experience is the same as mine. The Rhino core needs to be refactored to be extensible in order to allow multiple interpreters such as the one that supports continuations. Ouch. :-/ Do you envision other needs for extended interpreters? I

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Christopher Oliver
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Your experience is the same as mine. The Rhino core needs to be refactored to be extensible in order to allow multiple interpreters such as the one that supports continuations. Ouch. :-/ Do you envision other needs for extended interpreters? I

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/bean CocoonBean.java

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 09:44:35 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon Main.java Cocoon.java src/java/org/apache/cocoon/bean CocoonBean.java Log: Using ContainerUtil at some places Formatting code Removing unneeded code Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +1 -2

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/scratchpad/garbage/source/java/org/apache/garbage/servlet GarbageServlet.java

2003-06-24 Thread cziegeler
cziegeler2003/06/24 09:59:28 Modified:src/scratchpad/garbage/source/java/org/apache/garbage/tree Evaluation.java TemplateVar.java Attribute.java LocatedEvents.java LocatedEvent.java Tree.java Events.java

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Christopher Oliver wrote: OK... I spent some more time with the code and did some steps forward. Now, unfortunately, I'm stuck due to my ignorance: any further step would be just a wild bet from my part, and it would take me a lot of time to get acquainted with all the technologies involved

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Geoff Howard
At 01:00 PM 6/24/2003, Gianugo wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: OK... I spent some more time with the code and did some steps forward. Now, unfortunately, I'm stuck due to my ignorance: any further step would be just a wild bet from my part, and it would take me a lot of time to get acquainted

Re: [vote] Reinhard Potz as a Cocoon committer

2003-06-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 6/24/03 2:24 AM David Crossley wrote: David Crossley wrote: I propose Reinhard Pötz to be a Cocoon committer. The summary so far is 21 positive votes and no negative votes. Is there an official duration that i have to wait before asking root to set up the account? It has been about

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Geoff Howard wrote: This is good news. I understand that it's very difficult, but I hope that it might be easier than you think, and I hope I can somehow help you in that. Anyway, given that you are the only one showing some interest, I'm starting to think that I'm just being paranoid... You

XQuery

2003-06-24 Thread volker . schmitt
found this at http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/ Michael Kay has released Saxon 7.6, an experimental open source implementation of large parts of XSLT 2.0 and XPath 2.0 in Java. This release adds support for XQuery 1.0 as well.

RE: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Christopher Oliver
Although I think it would be nice to sync with the Rhino cvs, I can tell you from personal experience that the Rhino code at cocoondev.org is more stable than Cocoon itself at this point. So I think trying to place the blame on Rhino for not using the flow is misguided. You also need to take

Re: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Jeff Turner wrote: Vote 1: Cocoon committers automatically become Forrest committers +1 Vote 2: Forrest should become a subproject of Cocoon (http://cocoon.apache.org/forrest) +1 Joerg

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Christopher Oliver wrote: Although I think it would be nice to sync with the Rhino cvs, I can tell you from personal experience that the Rhino code at cocoondev.org is more stable than Cocoon itself at this point. Please understand that my point is not about stability: I'm positive about the

Re: [RFI] Garbage

2003-06-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Pier Fumagalli wrote: SetAttribute vs Well-formedness: Briefly, I wanted to check with you people if a functionality like the XSLT setattribute is required, or the non-well-formedness of Garbage is better (see previous messages on this thread)... Both approaces

Re: [vote] Reinhard Potz as a Cocoon committer

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: David Crossley wrote: David Crossley wrote: I propose Reinhard Pötz to be a Cocoon committer. The summary so far is 21 positive votes and no negative votes. Is there an official duration that i have to wait before asking root to set up the account? It

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation DirectoryGenerator.java

2003-06-24 Thread joerg
joerg 2003/06/24 17:55:32 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/generation DirectoryGenerator.java Log: fixed cache key generation (creating a String from the parameters) Revision ChangesPath 1.5 +28 -4

cvs commit: cocoon-2.1 status.xml

2003-06-24 Thread joerg
joerg 2003/06/24 17:58:40 Modified:.status.xml Log: fixed cache key generation (creating a String from the parameters) Revision ChangesPath 1.61 +3 -3 cocoon-2.1/status.xml Index: status.xml

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread Geoff Howard
At 09:29 PM 6/24/2003 +0200, you wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: This is good news. I understand that it's very difficult, but I hope that it might be easier than you think, and I hope I can somehow help you in that. Anyway, given that you are the only one showing some interest, I'm starting to

Re: Syncing rhino

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: snip/ ...Anyway, given that you are the only one showing some interest, I'm starting to think that I'm just being paranoid... No, you are definitely not. All the issues that you and Christopher are attending to are extremely important. I, for one, do not think that i

Re: [RFI] Garbage

2003-06-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 24/6/03 23:58, Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: SetAttribute vs Well-formedness: paragraph #if {something} [EMAIL PROTECTED]myClass} #else [EMAIL PROTECTED]outerType} #fi /paragraph Think also in the case in which

Re: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread David Crossley
Jeff Turner wrote: As most of you probably saw, there's a thread on cocoon-dev suggesting that Forrest ought to be a Cocoon subproject, with the consensus being it makes sense. AFAICT the only practical difference would be that Cocoon committers would automatically become Forrest