Testing the new mailinglists

2003-07-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Test of the new mailinglists. Carsten

[IMPORTANT] Mailinglist has change

2003-07-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
to the new one, so receiving mails should work without any problems. However, if you want to send a message to the list, please consider the new names. If you experience any problems, please let us now. Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

RE: DTDs for document-v11

2003-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: I question why you want to use the new DTDs that are under development at Forrest. In Cocoon we still use the document-v10 DTDs for all of the xdocs. Do you really need the document-v1[12] DTDs or can you suffer the current one? Our doc writer did choose that :) There

RE: resolving the DTDs nightmare (Was: Re: cvs commit:directory-generator.xml)

2003-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: We also do some specific validation of certain core configuration using RELAX NG and the Jing task. This works fine for validating the cocoon.roles file (note it has an internal DTD subset). We were also doing some experimental validation of other files, such as

RE: resolving the DTDs nightmare

2003-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: Bugger. I was going to look into the Jing code because that would be the ideal - make Jing use the xml-commons entity resolver. I see that there is a newer Jing available - will investigate sometime. Great ;) Anyway, what do you think of the other issue - the idea of

RE: resolving the DTDs nightmare

2003-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: - I think we should remove all the doc handling from cocoon. By this I mean the subsitemap we currently have that generates the docs on the fly in the built webapp. I hope to move this to forrest as well. I agree. However, what do you mean by move this to forrest?

RE: [Flow] getComponent(id) implementation

2003-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Pötz wrote: The Cocoon object of the FOM has the method Component getComponent(id) It should return any component but no sitemap components. This means we only return components defined in the roles file(s). How can we check if it is an allowed component? Any ideas? I think

RE: [Flow] getComponent(id) implementation

2003-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Geoff Howard wrote: Do we want to force people to edit cocoon.xconf to call their own business components from the flow? I thought Stefano proposed checking for SitemapModelComponent and disallowing it? Would that prevent looking up a transformer, but allow looking up a legitimate component

Problem generating Cocoon site

2003-06-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, I currently have a problem generating the cocoon site with forrest. I get the following error: --- * [0] - [broken page] index.html - No pipeline matched request: tab.xml Total time: 0 minutes 5 seconds I'm using latest forrest from cvs and I

RE: Problem generating Cocoon site

2003-06-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeff Turner wrote: Cocoon overrides the main Forrest sitemap (src/documentation/sitemap.xmap), which means that every time the Forrest CVS sitemaps change, the Cocoon one would need synching. To avoid this, there is a 'stable' tag on Forrest, the theory being that Cocoon docs should always

RE: DTDs for document-v11

2003-06-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: Why do we need DTDs to be included here? If they need to be in Cocoon CVS, then shouldn't they be in WEB-INF/entities. The validate-xdocs task validates all our documents and uses the DTDs from the documentation directory. As the old document-10 dtd was already there,

Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
If noone is against it, I will request for moving the mailing-lists tomorrow (before the beta release). I think we have to move these mailinglists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I forget anything? Carsten

RE: Welcome the new ASF members

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: It is with real pleasure that I announce that three cocoon committers were elected members of the ASF in the last round of votation that ended today. Vadim, Sylvain and Carsten (in alphabetical order by their last names) Hoping that they will accept the

RE: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 24 juin 2003, à 08:31 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : If noone is against it, I will request for moving the mailing-lists tomorrow (before the beta release). Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new

RE: Moving Mailing-Lists

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: snip/ Do you plan a document explaining the move and how to find the old and new archives? No :( - to be honest, I haven't thought about the archives. I thought that the archives would be somehow moved

RE: [VOTE] Give all Cocoon committers CVS access?

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Jeff Turner wrote, On 24/06/2003 13.38: As most of you probably saw, there's a thread on cocoon-dev suggesting that Forrest ought to be a Cocoon subproject, with the consensus being it makes sense. AFAICT the only practical difference would be that

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/databases/conf blob.xconf

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: !-- blob pseudo protocol -- -protocol name=blob class=org.apache.cocoon.components.source.impl.BlobSourceFactory/ +component-instance name=blob class=org.apache.cocoon.components.source.impl.BlobSourceFactory/ Why this change? Anyways,

Where is 2.1beta1?

2003-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Team, where is 2.1beta1? - Well, due to some lack of time, I will be doing the release either on friday or on monday - I actually prefer monday as I don't like releasing something on fridays. Anyway, also this sounds like a bad news (another delay), it's actually a good one! This gives us

RE: [vote] Reinhard Potz as a Cocoon committer

2003-06-23 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten

RE: [SourceResolver] getLastModified() for cocoon:// sources always returns 0

2003-06-23 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Pötz wrote: If I understand this correctly I get with source.getValidity() the SourceValidity. Yes. But if I call e.g. cocoon://blablalba.xml this method returns null. The default pipe is the caching pipe and I use it with map:pipeline ... /map:pipeline If I resolve a

RE: BUG or feature?

2003-06-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I would call it a bug :( Carsten -Original Message- From: Klaus Bertram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:48 PM To: cocoon-dev Subject: BUG or feature? Hi all, is it an bug or an feature that the whole javadocs for the block classes are not created by

RE: Why does moving the portal-fw from samples break it? (PortalManager not found on 'save')

2003-06-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
-Original Message- From: Rob Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why does moving the portal-fw from samples break it? (PortalManager not found on 'save') I've attempted to move the portal-fw sample from the

RE: AbstractSAXTransformer logging (Re: cvs commit: ... AbstractSAXTransformer.java)

2003-06-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeff Turner wrote: I'm not too sure of this commit. The problem is that AbstractSAXTransformer's debug-level logging is so verbose that it swamps the debug logs of its children with stuff like this: DEBUG (/forrest/body-index.html): BEGIN endTransformingElement uri=, name=link,

RE: Cocoon 2.1 showstopper?

2003-06-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Thanks Sylvain and Nathaniel for the points, I added them to our updating docu. If you know some more incompatible changes, please either edit directly the updating doc or send a simple patch. Thanks Carsten -Original Message- From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Cocoon 2.1 showstopper?

2003-06-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
So, from the response I guess we go for recompiling. If someone is against this, please stand up now :) Carsten

RE: Cocoon 2.1 showstopper?

2003-06-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Well, there is a way out, but I don't know if we want to do it. It's based on - ok, I'll say that word - an AOP interceptor mechanism(hehehe a big wording for a simple concept). Basically, we would have to use our own classloader in the ComponentManager, and make it

Cocoon 2.1 showstopper?

2003-06-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
as we are compatible on the source level)? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

RE: [vote] FOM design methodology

2003-06-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 2) small to big - give users the least possible freedom based on some required functionality and grow as the users express their needs. +1 Carsten

RE: [Vote] Release Cocoon 2.1 and Cocoon 2.0.5

2003-06-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Andrew Savory wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Joerg Heinicke wrote: [ ] Release Cocoon 2.1 /immediately/. [+1 ] Release Cocoon 2.1 beta 1 /immediately/ (24th of June). [ ] Release further milestones while implementing the FOM. [+1 ] Release Cocoon 2.0.5 as soon as possible. Carsten, I

RE: Cocoon 2.1 showstopper?

2003-06-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Geoff Howard wrote: At 02:20 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: Hi, I think I found a showstopper for 2.1 :( : 2.1 is not binary compatible to 2.0.x - if you compile a (sitemap) component using 2.0.x and put this into 2.1 it will in most cases fail to run. As a simple example, you can use the

RE: FOM blocking 2.1 release

2003-06-15 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 1) I will try to patch the FOM for the proposed plan for June 24th. +1 :) 2) If I can't do it, we release with what we have and we state loud and clear that the FOM contract should be considered unstable and that might change in future releases. What do you

RE: [Vote] Release Cocoon 2.1 and Cocoon 2.0.5

2003-06-15 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Joerg Heinicke wrote: So we only have one option: release Cocoon 2.1 as soon as possible :-) Ok, there are some other options this vote is about: [ ] Release Cocoon 2.1 /immediately/. Carsten suggested the 24th of June as target date for a first beta release

RE: Cocoon and upgrading to Fortress

2003-06-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Berin Loritsch wrote_ Fortress allows us to do a number of really cool things that are not available in the ECM. One of them is to no longer require the accursed Roles file. Adding new user components to Cocoon and having the configuration able to use those components directly is just as

Release Plan for 2.1

2003-06-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
on the 24th of June. (Then if required one more beta and then final with two or three weeks inbetween). What do you think? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

RE: Release Plan for 2.1

2003-06-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Upayavira On 13 Jun 2003 at 8:35, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: AFAIK, the only real thing missing for 2.1 is the FOM implementation. The question is now, is someone already working on it resp. should we wait for the release until it's finished? What is actually required to fix the FOM

RE: Release Plan for 2.1

2003-06-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stephan Michels wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: AFAIK, the only real thing missing for 2.1 is the FOM implementation. The question is now, is someone already working on it resp. should we wait for the release until it's finished? I think we should set a date now

RE: Finishing FOM (was RE: Release Plan for 2.1)

2003-06-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Upayavira wrote: I think its refactoring and adding some functionality. As a starting point you can look at this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10540178951r=1w=2 I remember reading that. What I wanted to know is exactly how one would go about updating the FOM. If all

RE: Cocoon performance using MemoryStore

2003-06-11 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: So my question is, why don't we use this implementation, to make Cocoon more scalable? ;-) You can. Have you tried it yet? I guess what Volker means is adding your new implementation from the scratchpad to excalibur store (btw, you have the commit rights for

Updating to excalibur datasource 1.1?

2003-06-11 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
What has to be done to update to the released excalibur datasource 1.1? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

[BUG]: Endless recursion in source resolving

2003-06-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
After updating to the latest cvs I get an infinite loop in the new portal demo: http://localhost:/samples/portal/portal I guess this is caused by the recent changes to the source resolving. Any clues? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

RE: [BUG]: Endless recursion in source resolving

2003-06-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: After updating to the latest cvs I get an infinite loop in the new portal demo: http://localhost:/samples/portal/portal I guess this is caused by the recent changes to the source resolving. Any clues? It seems that the current implementation of the source

RE: [BUG]: Endless recursion in source resolving

2003-06-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: What about using the two ;-) 1/ test if the URI is absolute. For this, you can use Excalibur's SourceUtil.getScheme() which performs a strict control on scheme syntax without using a regexp. 2/ if not, use the regexp only on the part before the '?' (BTW, if '?' is

RE: [BUG]: Endless recursion in source resolving

2003-06-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 10:02, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: What about using the two ;-) 1/ test if the URI is absolute. For this, you can use Excalibur's SourceUtil.getScheme() which performs a strict control on scheme syntax without using

RE: [BUG]: Endless recursion in source resolving

2003-06-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bruno Dumon wrote: Yep, after trying it out I saw it too. Anybody working on this already? (or can I do it?) No, I'm not :) so: go for it ;) Carsten

RE: [BUG]: Endless recursion in source resolving

2003-06-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:16, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: Yep, after trying it out I saw it too. Anybody working on this already? (or can I do it?) No, I'm not :) so: go for it ;) done :-) Yes, it works now! Thanks Carsten

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.0/lib/core xalan-2.5.1.jar xercesImpl-2.4.0.jar xml-apis.jar xalan-2.3.1.jar xercesImpl-2.0.0.jar

2003-06-06 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Joerg Heinicke wrote: But there is another reason for this mail: Now with the current XSLTC we can switch to it as default processor in 2.0 too, can't we? I'm currently -1 on this because imho xsltc has not proven to be 100% working and I think we should at least in 2.0.x have a fully

RE: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Joerg Heinicke wrote: But it's obvious we have a more or less bad bug handling. Most of the bugs are not even ASSIGNED, so nobody can really see if it's only a bug report of a user or a confirmed bug. Why don't we accept or reject a bug within a month at the latest. And the patches? Why

RE: Caching in cocoon, especially CIncludeTransformer

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I don't like all those static methods that hardcode more and more logic, and even less when they lookup some components... Why aren't these methods part of a CocoonResolver component that would extend Excalibur's SourceResolver with some XML-related features ? You

RE: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 08:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers has time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen Yes, but I think Joerg has a point too: more comments

RE: Unresolved bugs with patches

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 08:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I think this is plain simple - as long as noone of the committers has time for it and has fun in doing so, nothing will happen Hi: but we also must think in users that use his time

RE: Caching in cocoon, especially CIncludeTransformer

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I don't know if this should be an independent component, or one that extends the SourceResolver. Ah ok, by independent component I meant a component that extends perhaps the SourceResolver component from Avalon, but can still be looked up using a component manager. So

RE: bug handling guideline (Re: Unresolved bugs with patches)

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Andreas Kuckartz wrote: But what about a bug handling guideline? Is there something similar for the Apache community in general? This is what I think is needed - and can be a result of this thread. I'm not against such a guideline and it might help in this case. So +1. But even with

RE: AntBuildGenerator (was: Unresolved bugs with patches)

2003-06-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mardi, 3 juin 2003, à 11:33 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : ...20138 [PATCH] AntBuildGenerator - Bertrand? (I'm -0 on adding such hacks onto Cocoon, but anyhow)... Dunno about hacks - an AntBuildGenerator block certainly triggers some FS alarms here,

RE: FragmentExtractor getting and releasing Store every time?

2003-06-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
The safest way is to lookup/release a component every time you need it, so the fragmentextractor uses the correct approach. If you know that the component you want to use is ThreadSafe and will always be ThreadSafe than you can optimize your code and lookup the component only once - this

RE: Caching in cocoon, especially CIncludeTransformer

2003-06-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
There is already such a component, the cinclude transformer uses this for the caching. It should be easy to use that component in the xinclude transformer as well. PS: Could you please not include the PGP signature in your posts to this list. It makes reading your mails very hard. Thanks.

RE: FragmentExtractor getting and releasing Store every time?

2003-06-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Torsten Knodt wrote: On Sunday 01 June 2003 15:51, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: CZ The safest way is to lookup/release a component every time you CZ need it, so the fragmentextractor uses the correct approach. CZ If you know that the component you want to use is ThreadSafe CZ and will always

RE: Caching in cocoon, especially CIncludeTransformer

2003-06-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Torsten Knodt wrote: Yes, I know. But it'S still to much coding for it in the CIncludeTransformer. Components which need the content of a source, should simply get it, and not think about caching. It's not their job. Caching is needed in to many places. All places which use sources,

RE: FragmentExtractor getting and releasing Store every time?

2003-06-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Now, the optimization I was refering to can only take place *if* you know which implementation for a component is really used and *if* this specific implementation is ThreadSafe. This is a dangerous assumption! If you assume a component is implemented in a thread safe

RE: Sitemap-Extended Pipeline Components [Re: [RT] FOM]

2003-05-30 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Cool. Sounds like many people are liking this ideas. But let's defer this for post-2.1 when I will have more sitemap-based RT to throw in. This makes me a little bit curious :) - but, yes it's for post-2.1 Carsten

Release Plan for 2.1

2003-05-30 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
AFAIK, the only open issue for making a beta is the FOM, right? I would suggest, that we make a milestone three on the 10th of June unless the FOM API is stable. If it's stable by then, we could make a beta 1 then. What do you think? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http

RE: [proposal] move stuff from scratchpad into the trunk

2003-05-30 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I mean, when something is in there for ages and noone maintains it or uses it, it is pretty useless. What do you think? yes and no. i would think that leaving stuff on the scratchpad doesn't really hurt anybody. I would suggest, instead, to keep it as a scratchpad

RE: [RT] FOM

2003-05-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 for the FOM as discussed for now. Ok, this is a little bit OT, but I have to respond :) Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: map:serializer name=xhtml map:transformer type=link-translation/ map:serializer type=xhtml/ map:serializer map:match pattern=... map:generate src=.../

RE: [proposal] move stuff from scratchpad into the trunk

2003-05-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Here is what I propose to move: 1) ImageReader 2) Paginator 3) JXTemplate* +1 anything else? Do we have any policy when to blast things from the scratchpad, I mean, when something is in there for ages and noone maintains it or uses it, it is pretty useless.

RE: Generators now allowed in map:handle-errors

2003-04-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ah, I understand. Clever solution. But once again, I prefer to avoid automagic implicit behaviour of the sitemap engine, and encourage people to migrate to writing a map:generate in their error handling and consider implicit generator and 'type' attributes on

RE: global sitemap variables bug.

2003-04-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Which version of Cocoon do you use? Carsten -Original Message- From: Leszek Gawron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: global sitemap variables bug. What I found may be a bug in {global:XXX} input module First the

RE: [RT] ParentAware components (was:Re: Flow Scoping, was...)

2003-03-31 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RT-starts/ This revives an idea I had a long time ago when writing the treeprocessor : parent-aware components. The elements in the map:component part of the sitemap are ComponentSelectors (CS) with a special behaviour :

RE: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Great! I wanted to propose exactly the same next week, you must read my mind sometimes :) So, a big +1 for only a source dist. Carsten -Original Message- From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:25 PM To: Apache Cocoon Subject: [proposal] a

RE: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten -Original Message- From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vote] Geoff Howard as Cocoon committer On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:55 AM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Geoff

RE: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer

2003-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten -Original Message- From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vote] Andrew Savory as Cocoon committer On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 08:22 AM, David Crossley wrote: I propose Andrew

Setting up a PMC mailinglist

2003-03-21 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, is it possible to setup a PMC mailing list, like other projects already did. So we could - if the need arises - discuss PMC topics in privat? (Don't get worried, I currently do have no need for it) Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

RE: setupPipeline() in AbstractCachingProcessingPipeline

2003-03-20 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Stephan, you don't have to ask for changes (if they make sense). I don't own the code :) So, making the code more understandable is good. From: Stephan Michels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] can I move the part where you generate the validity objects into a separate method, like

RE: setupPipeline() in AbstractCachingProcessingPipeline

2003-03-20 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stephan Michels wrote: Hmm, I'll think that I'm not the only one, who went into the trap. You're right returning a null validity hurts the contract, this will cause an exception. But a NPE in isValid() doesn't help searching the problem. Yes, but adding it in add(). Carsten

RE: database block not jvm depended anymore

2003-03-20 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Torsten Curdt wrote: Hurray! By using composition rather than inherritance I removed the the dependency to the jvm. No split code anymore :) Thanks for pointing me on that Berin. Everything *should* work as before. And at least on my machine the samples are working. Please test!

RE: Planning 2.1B1

2003-03-20 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Could please everyone add (his) open issues for a 2.1b1 release to the todo.docs? So, we have one single source of information. Has everyone updated the todo.xml? Is anything missing? Carsten

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: But won't work :-( :) Why ? Well, yes, a sitemap element = a builder class. But the configuration file that defines them is used to feed a ComponentSelector, which will try to load the class and the result is that you will get an Exception in the initialization phase

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
, if the required builder class is not available. The flow would still be configured in the tree processor configuration and I can leave out everything of the flow stuff if I don't need it. And in addition: the dummy implementation can give meaningful error messages. What do you think? Carsten Carsten

RE: [proposal] fixing the encoding problems

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: One word: CacheableProcessingComponent. IIRC, cache was aware of cacheable serializers some time ago. The only missing piece is to add SitemapModelComponent support for Serializers. Yes, the caching algorithm queries serializers if they support caching since more

Planning 2.1B1

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Could please everyone add (his) open issues for a 2.1b1 release to the todo.docs? So, we have one single source of information. Thanks Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://radio.weblogs.com/0107211/

RE: AbstractSAXSource incompatible changes [was: DOMStreamerincompatible changes]

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: OK. I think I'll wait for SourceResolving to have solidified into a proper release. The source resolving should be solidifed now; I don't expect any changes before a release of the sourceresolving package which will happen sometime soon. Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open

RE: Planning 2.1B1

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could please everyone add (his) open issues for a 2.1b1 release to the todo.docs? So, we have one single source of information. b implies beta... We go straight to beta without an alpha

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Why can't se simply postpone module-creation this after 2.1? I don't think it's worth delaying further for a simple 50kb less of cocoon.jar I agreed that we move this issue into 2.2 or whatever and that this should not delay 2.1 - so for me, it's pretty clear that

RE: Discussion of Flow Issues

2003-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: It's already not easy to separate! I can think of how to resolve issue 1 (dedicated FlowObjectModelHelper: ugly, but works) yuck! So, what do we do? Carsten, may I have your blessing for adding helper

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeremy Quinn wrote: You will find a excalibur-xmlutils jar with the date of today 20030317. If you have this jar, then you're upto date. My fresh checkout has given me 'excalibur-xmlutil-20030313.jar' so this may be where the problem lies. Strange. It seems that Eclipse 2.1RC2 has the

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeremy Quinn wrote: On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 07:33 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hi Jeremy, can you please turn on debug logging and post what the new resolver logs on startup? Hi Carsten, I made this change in web.xml : init-param param-namelog-level/param

RE: The road to Cocoon 2.1

2003-03-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: For 2.1 we have some additional points in our todo list in cvs that have to be solved before a final release. Bring them on. From the todo.xml (perhaps some of them are obsolete; perhaps some are not so important): action context=code assigned-to=CZ Redesign

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeremy Quinn wrote Sorry, I was a little bit unprecise. You have to set the loglevel in the logkit.xconf - change the setting for core and for manager from ERROR to DEBUG. You will find the messages in the core.log. OK, hope this helps . no hits, just the startup. Yes, that's

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeremy Quinn wrote: I just did a fresh update (to the version that made the log I just sent you), but this was all I got : P blocks.properties P build.xml P src/scratchpad/webapp/samples/imagereader/sitemap.xmap So either I am up to date WRT this particular code, or I have a

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Jeremy, can you please turn on debug logging and post what the new resolver logs on startup? Carsten -Original Message- From: Jeremy Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finishing Deprecation Package On

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: SNIP/ So, perhaps Sylvain has a clever idea on how to implement this in the treeprocessor. I think that using xconftool is enough. Yes, after thinking about it, for now we even don't need the xconftool but a clever exception handling/message. (Sylvain, correct

RE: The road to Cocoon 2.1

2003-03-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Oh, that's no problem for me. Carsten, you propsed the move: what's your feeling about this? Ok, I think moving actions and xsp is not necessary as they were included in 2.0 already anyway. 2.1 is the first release with flow, so moving this into a block before it's

RE: [PROPOSAL] Continuation in objectModel, Was: Discussion of Flow Issues

2003-03-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Excellent! I've grepped sources, seen those awful ((Environment)resolver) type casts, and I think that we have to get rid of this ASAP. We need to remove the type casts. Yes! Practical proposal: * Add flow-continuation to the objectModel, and getter method to

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: Now, there is something wrong with this approach. We can easily change (which should be the 'correct' solution) that a path starting with / is treated as an absolute path. So if you want to load from the context directory, you have to specify WEB-INF/.. instead of

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I just did a fix for absolute paths on windows. All your tests work for me on w2k. Carsten

RE: (In)Dependence on servlet - (Re: [RT] Flow as a block)

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Well, the fact is that some parts reference the CocoonServlet, and the StreamGenerator is usable only on Servlets! Ok, this has already been discussed, so I think we should get to a conclusion here. Proposal: 1) move all environments in separate

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: These RT propose two things: 1) move out flow as a block 2) make the sitemap syntax pluggable Yes, but I see 1) as a need and would be happy about 2). - people use cocoon in a non-servlet environment and would like to see all servlet hooks removed Yes.

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: But: during the last two years, from time to time I had the need to extend the sitemap syntax, because that would have made some things much more easier. As it was not possible, we used some other methods like actions etc. Having a solid contracts doesn't mean we

Minimal JDK Version for 2.1

2003-03-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
version. So, is anyone against changing from 1.2 to 1.3? If not, I will change the docs etc. tomorrow. Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG

[RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
dangers, so this is only a thought. Anyway, regardless how it is solved, I would like to have the flow separated into a block. What do you think? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG

RE: Portal error (Cocoon-2.1-dev samples)

2003-03-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Sylvain, please use the latest version of 2-1 as it's very difficult (if not impossible) to reproduce your problem. The cvs repositories changed etc. Please try it again with the latest cvs and I can then see how to help you. Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I'm thinking since last year about making the sitemap syntax pluggable, so the basic idea is to install an own block that adds more syntax and features to the sitemap. With that implemented, it would be easy to make flow an own block. I remember a discussion about

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