[CODE4LIB] Position Announcement: Sandia National Laboratories - Technical Library Applications Integration Support

2010-09-20 Thread Ou, Carol
Job Description The Sandia National Laboratories Information Management Solutions organization is seeking an innovative, highly motivated, energetic and forward-thinking Computer Scientist to provide support for its Technical Library applications. The selected candidate will work closely with

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread j.g. pawletko
Hello Ross, I haven't implemented OAuth, and you may have already read this, but if not: ArsTechnica wrote a critique of the Twitter OAuth implementation that may be of interest. You can find that article here: http://bit.ly/c88aa7 Best- Joe On 9/20/10 1:54 PM, Ross Singer

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread MJ Ray
j.g. pawletko wrote: I haven't implemented OAuth, and you may have already read this, but if not: ArsTechnica wrote a critique of the Twitter OAuth implementation that may be of interest. You can find that article here: http://bit.ly/c88aa7 The co-op has been working on OAuth recently,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Can you give some details (or references) to justify the belief that OAuth isn't ready yet? (The fact that Twitter implemented it poorly does not seem apropos to me, that's just a critique of Twitter, right?). I don't agree or disagree, just trying to take this from fud-ish rumor to facts to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Can you give some details (or references) to justify the belief that OAuth isn't ready yet?  (The fact that Twitter implemented it poorly does not seem apropos to me, that's just a critique of Twitter, right?). I don't

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread MJ Ray
Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Can you give some details (or references) to justify the belief that OAuth isn't ready yet? (The fact that Twitter implemented it poorly does not seem apropos to me, that's just a critique of Twitter, right?). I don't agree or disagree, just trying to take this

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Well, if you want to distribute an application to users that will enable them to log in to _their own personal information_, without them ever having to enter credentials in a workflow started by that application, that's not going to happen, cause it's kind of impossible. But if you just want

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread MJ Ray
Ross Singer wrote: Agreed on this assessment, Jonathan. MJ, can you extrapolate on your concerns, because that Ars Technica article is not going to cut it for anything more than to avoid the choices that Twitter made. I've just sent another message trying to do that. Hope it helps. And

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:21 PM, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: I think FOSS servers would be affected by the published-key spoofing flaw too, wouldn't they? They would, but it should be easy(-ish) for each server admin to get their own key, which it can then (hopefully!) keep secret. The

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread MJ Ray
Jonathan Rochkind wrote: [...] But if you just want to publish an OAuth-using client that's not easy to impersonate -- well, it depends on what you mean. Do you mean you want the server to know that the client application, that is distributed to end-users, is The Twitterific Client, in a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
The thing this conversation (and Twitter) is missing, is that the OAuth protocol neither requires nor relies upon each piece of client software having a key of any kind. Twitter wants it to, so it can disable a certain application (distributed and used by many people) if they decide that app

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
MJ Ray wrote: What is the use case? http://oauth.net/core/1.0a/ claimed OAuth creates a freely-implementable and generic methodology for API authentication. Shouldn't we expect generic authentication to include authenticating both peers? OAuth, as I understand it, is about confirming that

[CODE4LIB] Security frameworks

2010-09-20 Thread stuart yeates
I don't know much about security. From the looks of the discussions here I'm not sure I want to. What I do know is that I can put stuff behind httpd's authentication modules and outsource that complexity to people who appear to know what they're taking about. Is there a way I can use OAuth

Re: [CODE4LIB] Looking for OAuth experts

2010-09-20 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: Ross Singer wrote: Agreed on this assessment, Jonathan.  MJ, can you extrapolate on your concerns, because that Ars Technica article is not going to cut it for anything more than to avoid the choices that Twitter made. I've