[CODE4LIB] Core Competencies of Electronic Resources Librarianship Adopted as NASIG Policy

2013-07-30 Thread publicist
The NASIG Board approved and adopted “Core Competencies of Electronic Resources Librarianship” as NASIG policy at their June 2013 meeting in Buffalo, New York. Sarah Sutton, former chair of the Core Competencies Task Force (CCTF), notes that she and the CCTF have high hopes that both library and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, Sorry comming late with it but: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:43:33AM -0500, Joshua Welker wrote: Not intending to start a language flame war/holy war here, but in the library coding community, is there a particular reason to use Ruby over Python or vice-versa? Is it the only choices

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Kurt Nordstrom
Whoohoo, late to the party! I like Python because I learned it first, and I haven't had a need to explore Ruby yet. I did briefly foray into learning Ruby in order to try to learn Rails, and I actually found that my background in Python sort of gave me brain-jam for learning Ruby, because the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Riley Childs
No mention of PHP? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Kurt Nordstrom doseofvitam...@gmail.com wrote: Whoohoo, late to the party! I like Python because I learned it first, and I haven't had a need to explore Ruby yet. I did briefly foray into learning Ruby in order to try

[CODE4LIB] Job: Enabling Technologies Librarian/Instructional Designer at University of Michigan

2013-07-30 Thread jobs
Enabling Technologies Librarian/Instructional Designer (University of Michigan, Michigan) The A. Alfred Taubman Health Sciences Library at the University of Michigan invites applications for the position of Enabling Technologies Librarian/Instructional Designer. This position provides a unique

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Joshua Welker
I am already a big user of PHP for web apps, but PHP does not make a fantastic scripting language in my experience. Josh Welker Information Technology Librarian James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 JCKL 2260 660.543.8022 -Original Message-

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Rich Wenger
The proliferation of boutique languages is a cancer on our community. Each one is a YAP (Yet Another Priesthood), and little else. The world does not need five slightly varying syntaxes for a substring function. If I had switched languages every time the web community recommended it, I would

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
i don't know why we're not talking about Haskell

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Al Matthews
Functional programming FTW! On 7/30/13 10:27 AM, Mark A. Matienzo mark.matie...@gmail.com wrote: i don't know why we're not talking about Haskell - ** The

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Scott Turnbull
and so the PointBash language was created. Thanks, you've doomed us all. C:\Dev-Code\zerodiv.pb [Warning] Expected period at end of `int i = x/0` add period and recompile.' On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger rwen...@mit.edu wrote: The proliferation of boutique languages is a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Rich Wenger
-:) -Rich -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Turnbull Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:41 AM To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby and so the PointBash language was created. Thanks, you've

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Jeremy Nelson
+1 Jeremy Nelson Metadata and Systems Librarian Colorado College -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:27 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby i don't

[CODE4LIB] (Haskell ecosystem would be nice) Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Marc Chantreux
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:27:01AM -0400, Mark A. Matienzo wrote: i don't know why we're not talking about Haskell I did to tell there is a lack of libraries and it is not as convenient as perl when it comes to use regexps. I wrote a MARC::MIR reader for ISO2709 but have some issues (it seems

[CODE4LIB] Job: Production Programmer at American Theological Library Association

2013-07-30 Thread jobs
The American Theological Library Association (ATLA) seeks qualified and experienced applicants for a position as Production Programmer for ATLA's new production system (Drupal based). The programmer is chiefly responsible for developing Drupal applications, as well as the deployment and testing of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Marc Chantreux
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 02:21:55PM +, Rich Wenger wrote: The proliferation of boutique languages is a cancer on our community. sure ... but i don't want to be stuck on PHP or python when i have the power of perl inside my hands, other would argue perl is too hard for librarians and go

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Ross Singer
What would you consider a boutique language? What isn't? -Ross. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger rwen...@mit.edu wrote: The proliferation of boutique languages is a cancer on our community. Each one is a YAP (Yet Another Priesthood), and little else. The world does not need

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Ethan Gruber
All languages other than assembly are boutique and must be eliminated like the cancer that they are. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: What would you consider a boutique language? What isn't? -Ross. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Andreas Orphanides
Whatever; if you're not programming Turing machines made from two rocks and a roll of toilet paper, then you're not a REAL coder. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: All languages other than assembly are boutique and must be eliminated like the cancer that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Matthew Sherman
Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come back to the original question and help this person figure out what they need to about Ruby and Python so they can do well with what they want to work on. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Francis Kayiwa
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:21:24AM -0400, Andreas Orphanides wrote: Whatever; if you're not programming Turing machines made from two rocks and a roll of toilet paper, then you're not a REAL coder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DiOthAKek ./fxk -- H. L. Mencken suffers from the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Peter Schlumpf
Real coders roll their own programming languages. -Original Message- From: Francis Kayiwa kay...@uic.edu Sent: Jul 30, 2013 10:45 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:21:24AM -0400, Andreas Orphanides wrote: Whatever; if

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Joshua Welker
umad bro? ;) Josh Welker Information Technology Librarian James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 JCKL 2260 660.543.8022 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Wenger Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Joshua Welker
I think I have the information I need at this point, so this would be a good time to let this thread die before it turns into what I tried to avoid in the first place. Josh Welker Information Technology Librarian James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Cary Gordon
Once you have committed your soul to visual Basic, there is no turning back. On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Joshua Welker wel...@ucmo.edu wrote: umad bro? ;) Josh Welker Information Technology Librarian James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 JCKL

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Jason Stirnaman
I recommend going through http://pragprog.com/book/btlang/seven-languages-in-seven-weeks No, of course it's not exhaustive, but it offers an appreciation of some modern languages, their differences, and the roots they derived from. Every coder [their] language. Every language its coder :)

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Cary Gordon
Didn't Dr. Frankenstein say that about the monster? On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Joshua Welker wel...@ucmo.edu wrote: I think I have the information I need at this point, so this would be a good time to let this thread die before it turns into what I tried to avoid in the first place. Josh

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Kurt Nordstrom
I'm not sure about boutique, but I bet I can define brotique for you. ;) On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: What would you consider a boutique language? What isn't? -Ross. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger rwen...@mit.edu wrote: The

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Marc Chantreux
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:25:14AM -0500, Matthew Sherman wrote: Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come back to the original question and help this person figure out what they need to about Ruby and Python so they can do well with what they want to work on.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Sherman matt.r.sher...@gmail.comwrote: Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come back to the original question and help this person figure out what they need to about Ruby and Python so they can do well with what they

[CODE4LIB] PyCon Call for Proposals

2013-07-30 Thread Andromeda Yelton
Attention Pythonistas! The Call for Proposals for PyCon speakers is out: http://us.pycon.org/2014/speaking/cfp/ PyCon will be April 9-17 in Montreal. (It's long because it includes tutorials and development sprints as well as conference talks; people don't necessarily attend all of it.) The

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Kurt Nordstrom
Well, this is probably some obvious bait, but I will take it. :) *writing python code is very boring when you come from featured. langages like ruby or perl. nothing can be expressed a simple way* I'd call this an intentional feature, as opposed to a detriment. The idea behind Python is you

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Cary Gordon
Seven Languages in Seven Weeks ++ Great geek fun. On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Jason Stirnaman jstirna...@kumc.edu wrote: I recommend going through http://pragprog.com/book/btlang/seven-languages-in-seven-weeks No, of course it's not exhaustive, but it offers an appreciation of some

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread John Lolis
This discussion brought to mind this oldie but goodie... http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/tao-of-programming.html Thus spake the master programmer: ``When you have learned to snatch the error code from the trap frame, it will be time for you to leave.'' 1.1 Something mysterious is formed,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
s/objective/subjective/ FTFY On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Marc Chantreux m...@unistra.fr wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:25:14AM -0500, Matthew Sherman wrote: Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come back to the original question and help this

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Jason Stirnaman
As of Ruby 1.9, I would dispute the Ruby is slower than everything case. There's lots of evidence to the contrary, e.g. http://www.unlimitednovelty.com/2012/06/ruby-is-faster-than-python-php-and-perl.html Jason -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Cornel Darden Jr.
Hi, Python, Python, Python. Did I say Python? -Pythonist- Cornel Darden Jr. MSLIS Librarian Kennedy-King College City Colleges of Chicago Work 773-602-5449 Cell 708-705-2945 On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Joshua Welker wel...@ucmo.edu wrote: I think I have the information I need at this

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Levy, Michael
Has anyone tried coding using one of these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3keLeMwfHY

Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby

2013-07-30 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
It's extremely eerie how this thread has played out almost exactly like a similar one in 2010: http://bit.ly/4kb77v Creatures of habit, we are. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Levy, Michael ml...@ushmm.org wrote: Has anyone tried coding using one of these?

[CODE4LIB] Job: IT Applications Specialist at Glendale Public Library

2013-07-30 Thread jobs
This position is within the Library Information Technology Services (LITS) section of the Glendale Library, Arts Culture Department (aka Glendale Public Library, CA). Please share it with anyone who may be qualified. It will only be open for applications for 2 weeks! IT Applications

[CODE4LIB] Job Posting / Systems Librarian/Web Librarian / Washington, DC

2013-07-30 Thread Suzanne Richards
Apologies for the cross postings . . . . . LAC Group is seeking a Systems Librarian/Web Librarian for a potential long-term contract with a prestigious federal agency located in Washington, DC. We are recruiting for several positions for this contract to run the library and information

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Northwest

2013-07-30 Thread Cynthia Ng
The BC group is organizing one in Vancouver for November, which you could consider part of the NW region. On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com wrote: The c4l meetings in Portland all seemed to work pretty well. I'd be happy to help put another one together.