[CODE4LIB] One Data Format Identifier (and Registry) to Rule Them All

2009-04-30 Thread Ross Singer
Hello everybody. I apologize for the crossposting, but this is an area that could (potentially) affect every one of these groups. I realize that not everybody will be able to respond to all lists, but... First of all, some back story (Code4Lib subscribers can probably skip ahead): Jangle [1]

Re: [CODE4LIB] exact title searches with z39.50

2009-04-27 Thread Ross Singer
I think in order to accomplish this you'd have to send a completeness or truncation attribute: @attr 1=4 6=3 foo bar # search for 'foo bar' as the complete field @attr 1=4 6=2 foo bar # search for 'foo bar' as the complete subfield @attr 1=4 5=100 foo bar # do not truncate - although this is

Re: [CODE4LIB] Poor Apache Derby (was: can code4lib survive Oracle's takeover of Sun?)

2009-04-20 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Dan Scott dsc...@laurentian.ca wrote: I hear there's at least one good book about Apache Derby out there, although it's rather dated now... I have a copy. Signed by one of the authors! -Ross.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Something completely different

2009-04-10 Thread Ross Singer
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Bill Dueber b...@dueber.com wrote: This is hard stuff. But it's worth doing right. +1 The issue here isn't about serializations or transmission formats. It's about data modeling. Our current bibliographic data model is horribly inefficient, with antiquated

Re: [CODE4LIB] Something completely different

2009-04-07 Thread Ross Singer
from each scenario at http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/Scenarios Ross Singer wrote: Right, ok, so an RDF graph can say the same resource is multiple things at the same time, so that's how you deal with this: http://lccn.loc.gov/95100870 rdf:type bibo:Book . http://lccn.loc.gov/95100870

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

2009-04-07 Thread Ross Singer
of the tools at their disposal. All this being said, it's really not too late to fix any of this, since nobody is implementing this and, realistically, nobody ever will. -Ross. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Ross Singer wrote: So, thanks to the help of my coworkers

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

2009-04-07 Thread Ross Singer
It's not off-topic, at least I don't think so. And I don't think anybody is asking to give up on catalogers. Just like I don't think anybody would want the technologists to describe the materials, I think the problem is that the catalogers tried to apply their idea of a data model into tangible

Re: [CODE4LIB] RDA in RDF, was: Something completely different

2009-04-07 Thread Ross Singer
to start somewhere.  It's just that the cataloging pieces move so excruciatingly slowly. ah Ross Singer wrote: It's not off-topic, at least I don't think so. And I don't think anybody is asking to give up on catalogers.  Just like I don't think anybody would want the technologists

Re: [CODE4LIB] Something completely different

2009-04-06 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: My problem with bibo is that it's strongly oriented toward academic journal articles... I would like to see a comparison to MARC, if anyone has done that, which might give us an idea of what isn't there. For example, I don't

Re: [CODE4LIB] Something completely different

2009-04-06 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Still looks pretty limited to me. What academics cite isn't a full bibliographic universe. No music, no films, no way to do realia. And citing isn't the same as bibliographic description. Don't get me wrong, I think it's very

Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?

2009-04-02 Thread Ross Singer
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Note this isn't as much of a problem for born web resources -- nobody's going to accidentally create an alternate URI for a dbpedia term, because anybody that knows about dbpedia knows that it lives at dbpedia. Unless

Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification (was Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?)

2009-04-01 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: I admit that httprange-14 still confuses me. (I have no idea why it's called httprange-14 for one thing). http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/14 Some background:

Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification (was Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?)

2009-04-01 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: But shouldn't we be able to know the difference between an identifier and a locator? Isn't that the problem here? That you don't know which it is if it starts with http://. But you do if it starts with http://dx.doi.org I

Re: [CODE4LIB] resolution and identification (was Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?)

2009-04-01 Thread Ross Singer
things that begin: http:// but that are very different in practice. What's yours? kc Ross Singer wrote: Your email client knew what do with: info:doi/10./j.1475-4983.2007.00728.x ? doi:10./j.1475-4983.2007.00728.x ? Or did you recognize the info:doi scheme and Google

Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?

2009-03-31 Thread Ross Singer
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Mike Taylor m...@indexdata.com wrote: Identifiers identify; locations locate. I've been avoiding and ignoring this all day, because I wanted the thread to die and we all move on with our lives. But Kevin Clarke just quoted this on Twitter, and I felt I couldn't

Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?

2009-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
, but in common use? It gets complicated thinking about these things. There are potentially several things wrong with it. Jonathan Ross Singer wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress r...@loc.gov wrote: Leaving aside religious issues I just want to be  sure

Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?

2009-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress r...@loc.gov wrote: Nor do people outside of libraries care about identifiers. Except, of course, for Tim Berners-Lee and anybody who listens to him: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html -Ross.

Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?

2009-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Rob Sanderson azar...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: If you want an identifier that *explicitly* cannot be dereferenced, then info URIs are a good choice.  If you want one that can be dereferenced to some representation of the identified object, then HTTP is the only

Re: [CODE4LIB] registering info: uris?

2009-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
I agree with this as well. I guess it just depends on whether you think this needs to be done prior to facitating the process to mint URIs or after. The advantage to the former is that it will actually get documented. Speaking of, if anybody wants to help formalize this for the purl method,

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib open source software award

2009-03-06 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: And if the Oscars are our model, color me even more concerned. :) But think of the Freebase mashup opportunities -Ross.

[CODE4LIB] Voting for the 2010 Code4lib Conference Location is now open

2009-02-19 Thread Ross Singer
http://vote.code4lib.org/election/index/9 The formatting is a little ugly, highlighting the perils of cut and paste. Voting is open through 4:30 PM EST on Wednesday, February 25th. If there's a tie, we'll have a runoff that ends sometime before the conference ends on Thursday. May the best

Re: [CODE4LIB] APIs that an OPAC should provide ...

2009-02-19 Thread Ross Singer
I am hardly impartial, but I think Jangle makes a worthy API. http://jangle.org/ If you're attending the Code4lib conference next week, you can learn all about it. -Ross. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Matthias Einbrodt matthias.einbr...@meinbrodt.net wrote: Hello, I'm interested in your

Re: [CODE4LIB] MIME Type for MARC, Mods, etc.?

2009-02-13 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Alexander Johannesen alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't asking for technical reasons; I was more having a stab at how many people use and need MARCXML specifically as compared to a number of other more used formats. I mean, seriously, you can use

Re: [CODE4LIB] MIME Type for MARC, Mods, etc.?

2009-02-04 Thread Ross Singer
His point, though, is that you can't tell the format being used until you open the document and try to negotiate it that way. So if you think in terms of content-negotiation and a particular resource is available in EAD, MARC XML and Dubin Core, you have no way of expressing that. Jonathan, this

Re: [CODE4LIB] MIME Type for MARC, Mods, etc.?

2009-02-04 Thread Ross Singer
for these formats will make everything flow much more smoothly and clearly. Of course, even without them being registered, we can use application/x-marc+xml and application/x-mods right away, which is probably what I'll do. Jonathan Ross Singer wrote: His point, though, is that you can't tell

Re: [CODE4LIB] Dutch Code4Lib

2009-01-22 Thread Ross Singer
Eric, this is a good point. I will be at ELAG this year, and I think Ed Corrado will, too. Past presentations look to be very in line with Code4lib and, in fact, it was billed to me as If you think of Access or Code4Lib but in a scenic European setting with great beer then you'll have a good

Re: [CODE4LIB] audio/video citations in an OpenURL

2009-01-07 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Hmm, I could send a DC KEV OpenURL (ie info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:dc ; there is no format for an XML DC? Kind of odd), and use the type element.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Mime type for PHP serialized objects

2008-12-30 Thread Ross Singer
Google's Protocol Buffers [1] seem like they may be another possible alternative here. The content-type in that case would be application/x-protobuf. The advantage here would be that the consumer wouldn't have to be written in PHP and there's no need to know the structure of your JSON object. I

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-07 Thread Ross Singer
I agree with this, as well as just using HTTP for it (Status: 300/Conneg). Still gets a bit tricky when talking about a 'search results' or 'browse' page (rather than a 'resource' page). Of course, some other metadata options beside JSON would probably helpful in this case, since it would take

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the title for a span? I haven't run across this. -Ross. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I had recently noticed indepedently, been unhappy with the way a COinS

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
: On 12/05/2008 10:45 AM, Ross Singer wrote: Wait, has there actually been confirmation of this behavior? What browser displays the title for a span? I haven't run across this. If you tag things as span title='foo'Some Text/span, most browsers will display the title as a tooltip over Some

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I know of. You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. No, why would it. I agree with Godmar -- everything

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the child of the span is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely. Thinking about this

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-03 Thread Ross Singer
This is correct. I'd bet it'd be like 10 lines of PHP or less, though. -Ross. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Karen Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Chad, it does help. And I think it helps me understand why I was a bit confused by the suggestion, but let me see if I've gotten it: I

Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS in OL?

2008-12-01 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely useful. Minor note. COinS appears to separate first and last name for authors. Open Library has them as a single field. I'm sure you'll find a solution. Depending on the metadata format used (I figure pretty

Re: [CODE4LIB] Vote for NE code4lib meetup location

2008-10-18 Thread Ross Singer
Given the voting method, no. A rating system is already a run off. -Ross. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Barnett, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined myself to the group just today, too late to vote, but what I see is 23 votes for Boston and 43 for anywhere else. Shouldn't there at

[CODE4LIB] Jangle version 1.0 draft specification now available for review and comment

2008-10-03 Thread Ross Singer
Hi everybody. Pardon the cross-posting. Jangle, an open specification to apply the Atom Publishing Protocol to library services and resources, has just released a draft version of a 1.0 release spec. http://jangle.org/drupal/1_0rev1spec The goal of Jangle is to provide a very simple and easily

Re: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data

2008-09-30 Thread Ross Singer
Also, I noticed another dump on the IA of Library of Congress updates since the initial Bisson load. http://www.archive.org/details/marc_loc_updates In typical IA fashion, it's incredibly difficult to know what the hell this stuff is, though. -Ross. On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Ed Summers

Re: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data

2008-09-30 Thread Ross Singer
s/customer/partner/ Also, in the case of what the thread was initially calling for, what would be the legalities of redistributing this data? -Ross. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you need to be an OCLC

Re: [CODE4LIB] LOC Authority Data

2008-09-30 Thread Ross Singer
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you need to be an OCLC customer to benefit from this? -Ross. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Houghton,Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Singer Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7

Re: [CODE4LIB] Logo vote

2008-09-26 Thread Ross Singer
You wouldn't be able to see it, though. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/26/2008 02:52 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: Yeah, and no silly options like NINJAS!!! Because, you know, NINJAS!!! always wins. Wait, we can have ninjas for our logo?

Re: [CODE4LIB] Calendar Data Exchange

2008-09-18 Thread Ross Singer
I doubt xCal is nearly as widely supported as iCal. Although not a 'standard', per se, Google Calendar's Atom extensions are also a possible option, given that anything that Google does has pretty broad support. http://code.google.com/apis/calendar/ -Ross. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:25 PM,

Re: [CODE4LIB] GAE sample (was: a brief summary of the Google App Engine)

2008-07-16 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Godmar Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://libxcache.appspot.com/get?url=http%3a%2f%2fdemo.jangle.org%2fopenbiblio%2fresources%2f5974 (To take some load off that Jangle demo, Ross, in case it's slashdotted.) Wedged between flame wars between OSX and Linux.

Re: [CODE4LIB] anyone know about Inera?

2008-07-11 Thread Ross Singer
Actually, SFX is probably not going to care what the title is. It's much more likely to care about the ISSN, volume and issue. Now, if the matching targets are EBSCO or Proquest, you might have a problem (since they accept inbound OpenURLs from SFX), but I'm not sure, exactly. How many of these

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib Journal and Drupal

2008-07-10 Thread Ross Singer
Jon, The conference and the journal are run fairly differently (did anybody from the journal get back to you?). The journal's actually organized (from what I can tell). It uses WordPress The conference, on the other hand, uses a crazy mish-mash of things that changes from year to year. CfPs

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009

2008-06-25 Thread Ross Singer
Going back to the original question about keynotes, I think Sebastian Hammer from IndexData would be an interesting choice. -Ross. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:33 PM, jean rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark the dates! Brown University is hosting code4lib 2009 which will take place at the

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theoretically you should be able to also pass the argument record_type=dc or record_type=marc to give you dublin core or marc21, but there seems to be a bug there. I'll fix that today. Bah, this actually did work, I just

Re: [CODE4LIB] use of OpenSearch response elements in libraries?

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
Actually, regarding this very point... One of the outcomes of Jangle is that I'd like to create a registry (like, say, a SKOS vocabulary) that defines an identifier for an agreed upon record format. You point out that conneg doesn't work for Atom or RSS payloads, but it wouldn't work, anyway.

Re: [CODE4LIB] The Berman Catalog

2008-06-24 Thread Ross Singer
I'm not sure this addressing the criteria of the licensing. How would you stop commercial purposes? Say I work for a UK-based vendor that starts with a T (as hard as that may seem) and I devise a script (or, even more crazily, have root access to the server to the server that the Berman catalog

Re: [CODE4LIB] III SIP server

2008-06-12 Thread Ross Singer
What would be the advantage of setting up an SVN server on Code4lib rather than using something like GitHub? http://github.com/ Seems a lot more practical and, speaking as somebody that lost a ton of code the last time we lost a C4L svn repo (you know, back when hack wasn't a crime), would

Re: [CODE4LIB] planet.code4lib.org -- 3 suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Ross Singer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Ed Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'm alone here, but I actually like seeing posts that aren't just about dull library coding crap :-) I agree with you. Personally, I feel like the planet is more the aggregation of people that make up a community.

Re: [CODE4LIB] planet.code4lib.org -- 3 suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Edward M. Corrado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (4) Automatically truncate posts after X words. The scroll gets so long and it is hard to find some of the posts that conform to what I think of the original idea of RSS was (a brief description of the content, not the

Re: [CODE4LIB] free movie cover images?

2008-05-19 Thread Ross Singer
An application called i-Covers polls this list: http://www.i-covers.net/en_bases.htm for covers/posters. -Ross. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Gabriel Sean Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:39:06AM -0400, Ken Irwin wrote: With some limitations, the Google Books API

Re: [CODE4LIB] Latest OpenLibrary.org release

2008-05-08 Thread Ross Singer
I guess I don't understand why you'd prefer SRU to an API. The ideal (in my mind) is that by having the API available, you have your cake and eat it too. Can a SRU (or OpenSearch or OpenURL or whatever) service not be built on top of the API? However, if there was no API available, only a SRU

Re: [CODE4LIB] coverage of google book viewability API

2008-05-08 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Tim Spalding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the idea that getting a book off the shelf is a non-trivial hassle, while I admit that it can get hard if your library is split between locations, at most colleges, getting a book from a library is a trivial effort.

Re: [CODE4LIB] KR

2008-04-04 Thread Ross Singer
How did you get my phone number? -Ross. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:20 AM, John Fereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:41 PM 4/3/2008, you wrote: So now I have to compile my jokes? I have frequently uttered the phrase what a joke! when reading some of the code I inherited that was

Re: [CODE4LIB] Serials Solutions 360 API - PHP classes?

2008-04-04 Thread Ross Singer
This is ironic given that their API is standards based. http://www.serialssolutions.com/ss_360_link_features.html What, exactly, are vendors worried about when they hide their API behind an NDA? Even more disturbing, why bother advertising your API at all if a community can't be built to create

Re: [CODE4LIB] e-journal publishing software

2008-04-04 Thread Ross Singer
As an alternative, I think Georgia Tech has done work integrating OJS (and OCS) with DSpace. -Ross. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Michael J. Giarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Sunny, I believe Rutgers has done some work integrating OJS with the Fedora repository architecture. Hopefully

Re: [CODE4LIB] KR (was: Gartner on OSS)

2008-04-03 Thread Ross Singer
All I use is a pen and legal size paper. Longhand is the real hacker's IDE. Then I feed my code in via a scanner and OCR. Python's a little tricker: needs a ruler or graph paper at the very least. All my work is open source, give me a call and I'll read it to you. Sorry, the fax machine isn't

Re: [CODE4LIB] KR

2008-04-03 Thread Ross Singer
waits for cosmic radiation to pummel the magnetic patterns on his drive into a pleasing and functional sequence of bits. --Sebastian Ross Singer wrote: All I use is a pen and legal size paper. Longhand is the real hacker's IDE. Then I feed my code in via a scanner and OCR

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-04-02 Thread Ross Singer
While I have no comment on this particular issue (since nobody wants me adminning *anything*), I would like to propose that before we set up any new services/applications on code4lib.org, we talk about whether or not any of the existing applications have functionality that could suffice. I guess

Re: [CODE4LIB] Announcement: Open Source In Libraries Website

2008-03-27 Thread Ross Singer
How is oss4lib.org and oss4lib-discuss not a we thing? How is yet another community based around a rather small domain a good thing? -Ross. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Chadwick Seagraves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might be of interest to some of you. I know that oss4lib has been

Re: [CODE4LIB] Announcement: Open Source In Libraries Website

2008-03-27 Thread Ross Singer
That may be, but it's not generally the path to successful and healthy online communities. (Or OSS projects, for that matter). -Ross. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Glen Newton - NRC/CNRC CISTI/ICIST Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let a thousand flowers bloom. That is certainly the Open

Re: [CODE4LIB] Access to code4lib.org server--how to work it?

2008-03-25 Thread Ross Singer
I don't want the world, I just want your half. --Jonathan Rochkind, 2008 more or less -Ross. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Rob Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:23, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: You and someone else could run the planet did nobody think the idea that

[CODE4LIB] openurl.code4lib.org up and running

2008-02-22 Thread Ross Singer
Hi everybody and pardon the cross-posting. I just wanted to announce that http://openurl.code4lib.org is finally live (after many, many months of being on my to do list). The intention is to build a community around the use, development and education of OpenURL/NISO Z39.88 and as a place for

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib http irc channel

2008-01-07 Thread Ross Singer
Karen, The server should be changed to: irc.freenode.net and the channel is: #code4lib I guess we'll see in a minute if that works for you, -Ross. On Jan 7, 2008 3:55 PM, K.G. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I even saw my nick, but when I tried to type the error page showed up.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Whatbird Interface Framework

2007-12-18 Thread Ross Singer
Mike, It seems like it might be a good project for one of the botanical garden libraries or ag/forestry school libraries. Have you considered asking around to them? I know NY Botanical Garden and the Missouri Botanical Garden both have some pretty sharp people on their staff. -Ross. On Dec

Re: [CODE4LIB] Unable to vote

2007-12-11 Thread Ross Singer
So, Jeffrey and Rob Casson have discovered the feature that you must fill out your profile information (or, at the very least first name and last name, I think) in order to vote. While we won't actually hold your vote against you (although if you voted for Better Living Through Hierarchy, I know

Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?

2007-10-25 Thread Ross Singer
It doesn't actually work with OAIster's own SRU interface, either. A query for the title works, but adding the author's name fails. OAIster's SRU implementation is very strange, though, so I could very well be doing something wrong. -Ross. On 10/25/07, Eric Lease Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org hosting

2007-08-02 Thread Ross Singer
Not make this full-contact Ross/Dan ping-pong, but here we go. On 8/1/07, D Chudnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) we could have found someplace 2) this is a problem either way 3) this is a problem either way 4) a few days' downtime is one thing - a few weeks' is another. I suppose these are

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org hosting

2007-08-02 Thread Ross Singer
On 8/2/07, D Chudnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the site would be back up in some state earlier this week, and like you I've been busy in the meantime. Seeing that it was still down after 10 days led me to want to say something and offer to help. Well, to be fair, some people have

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org hosting

2007-08-02 Thread Ross Singer
Thanks, Dan. This is actually the best argument against an arrangement outside of organization that explicitly does this sort of work. This much more soundly articulates my concern (I was using university counsel as an example, but anyone in the chain can potentially disrupt this entire

Re: [CODE4LIB] Getting the site back up (was code4lib.org hosting)

2007-08-02 Thread Ross Singer
I agree with this. Expectations of anvil's return to duty shouldn't add to the pressure of getting it running again. -Ross. On 8/2/07, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, to that effect, here's what I think the current options are: 1) Get it back up on anvil 2) Get it up on

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org hosting

2007-08-01 Thread Ross Singer
Just a reminder, everyone, this conversation is today at 7PM GMT (3PM EDT/Noon PDT) in #code4lib. Hope to see you all there, -Ross. On 7/27/07, Ed Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you may have seen or experienced code4lib.org is down for the count at the moment because of some hackers^w

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib.org hosting

2007-08-01 Thread Ross Singer
On 8/1/07, D Chudnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I've read a transcript copy that somebody sent me privately. I have a few concerns that I'm going to voice strongly, and I think they represent questions that need to be answered before I'll be comfortable with any particular plan. It

Re: [CODE4LIB] okay to post the code4lib.org hosting discussion transcript?

2007-08-01 Thread Ross Singer
+1 -Ross. On 8/1/07, Gabriel Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a transcript of the discussion all ready to post if there are no objections. I'll wait until tomorrow afternoon. Gabe

Re: [CODE4LIB] Quick Rails Question--FastCGI or modruby

2007-07-17 Thread Ross Singer
Andrew, Of your choices, I would have to go with FastCGI. If 'getting it running' isn't your problem, it works pretty well. Plus mod_ruby has other issues: http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/mod_ruby Good luck, -Ross. On 7/17/07, Andrew Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, all. I'm

Re: [CODE4LIB] more metadata from xISBN

2007-05-09 Thread Ross Singer
On 5/9/07, Jonathan Rochkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am, however, worried that I can't do what I want to do without breaking 500 querries a day, and my institution is not going to be willing to pay for it. So I'm interested in exploring other opportunities. (Does Umlaut really not exceed 500

Re: [CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access Management Services

2007-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
Well that probably didn't need to go to the whole world, but there you go. -Ross. On 3/30/07, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karen, I probably wouldn't be the right person to host such an event, since my only associations with ERAMS are this email and the fact that I've read a 4 page

Re: [CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access Management Services

2007-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
. Asst. Prof./Chair, Content Management Robert B. Greenblatt, M.D., Library, AB-241 Medical College of Georgia 1451 Laney-Walker Boulevard Augusta, GA 30912 Phone: (706) 721-9912 Fax: (706) 721-6006 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/23/2007 11:36:07 AM ERAMS E-Resource

Re: [CODE4LIB] not munging reply-to (was Re: [CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access Management Services)

2007-03-30 Thread Ross Singer
You know, ironically, I don't care that I sent the reply here. It just wasn't my intention. -Ross. On 3/30/07, Frumkin, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I'm sitting in the Dallas airport, I thought I'd jump in and echo Ed's sentiment, but add some creativity... *snarky on* So, when

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Ross Singer
it! - David On 22-Mar-07, at 23:37 , Ross Singer wrote: On 3/22/07, Don McMorris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan's message (I guess seeing academia) made me think of Athens, which made me further think Hey, Subscription Databases are just ITCHING for OpenID!. I mean, come on... The methods we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-22 Thread Ross Singer
Bill, I have thought about this (although not in regards to logging library workstations -- that'd be difficult but awesome), especially now that Georgia Tech is implementing lifetime accounts. The project that we are currently trying to pull together (GaTher -- which is sort of a library

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-22 Thread Ross Singer
On 3/22/07, Don McMorris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan's message (I guess seeing academia) made me think of Athens, which made me further think Hey, Subscription Databases are just ITCHING for OpenID!. I mean, come on... The methods we have for database authentication aren't working well...

Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenURL validation services

2007-03-19 Thread Ross Singer
Actually, I just forwarded it to the OpenURL Advisory Group's listserv, as well, since it's an issue I think probably needs to be addressed at that level, too. -Ross. On 3/19/07, Eric Hellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend that you send this query to the OpenURL listserv [EMAIL

[CODE4LIB] Job Opportunity for web developer

2007-02-09 Thread Ross Singer
WEB DEVELOPER Location: LIBRARY INFORMATION CENTER Job #: CEW6177 Hiring Range: $44,330 to $56,500 Education:Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science or a related field or equivalent combination of education and experience. Experience:Four or more years of work related experience. Demonstrated

Re: [CODE4LIB] net::delicious

2007-01-20 Thread Ross Singer
Eric, I don't know about Net::Delicious, but the Delicious API only allows you to query for information in /your/ profile. del.icio.us is also very restrictive about limiting numbers of hits. Yahoo's MyWeb (http://myweb.yahoo.com/) is much more open on this front, but, of course, is no

Re: [CODE4LIB] Getting data from Voyager into XML?

2007-01-17 Thread Ross Singer
Nathan, Ed Summers' ruby-marc is an excellent way to get Voyager's generally pretty crappy MARC batch export into XML. http://www.textualize.com/ruby_marc Use the MARC::ForgivingReader and then you output everything using MARC::XMLWriter. For a collection the size of yours it's going to take

Re: [CODE4LIB] Getting data from Voyager into XML?

2007-01-17 Thread Ross Singer
Bess, I do have a ruby class that gets current holdings, but it would only work for Voyager. My guess is it depend greatly on the ILS -- the RDBMS based ones (Voyager, Aleph, Horizon, VTLS, etc.) and the rest (Unicorn, III, etc.). Unicorn has its API to draw from, but you'd have problems

Re: [CODE4LIB] Getting data from Voyager into XML?

2007-01-17 Thread Ross Singer
Nathan, I don't think that will scale to showing status information for a result set. I think a compromise needs to be reached with your Systems folks. Maybe they could review the queries? After all, hitting Oracle directly is more efficient than any single part of Voyager. -Ross. On

[CODE4LIB] Vote for the Code4lib 2007 presentations!

2006-12-03 Thread Ross Singer
and happy voting, -Ross Singer. [*] - In cases of 2 proposals by one submitter being amongst the top-15, we will ask the submitter to choose one, discard the other and the next highest vote getter will be included.

Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib lucene pre-conference

2006-11-28 Thread Ross Singer
On 11/28/06, Kevin S. Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you switch to it? How do the pieces talk? This is the point of standards. If there is a standard way of addressing an index then you don't have to care what the newest greatest indexer is. This paragraph seems in contrast to your

Re: [CODE4LIB] Server names at libraries

2006-10-26 Thread Ross Singer
Jody, Everywhere I've worked (except my current employer, AFAICT) has had a system for naming servers internally (for reference to the machine in particular) and vhosts for the services themselves. When I worked at Tennessee (at the time, a strict Sun shop), all the servers were named after sun

Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenURL XML generation libraries?

2006-10-17 Thread Ross Singer
See also: http://www.textualize.com/trac/browser/ropenurl -Ross. On 10/17/06, Houghton,Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: 17 October, 2006 12:23 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] OpenURL

Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenURL XML generation libraries?

2006-10-17 Thread Ross Singer
other things better). And, yes, it needs documentation. -Ross. On 10/17/06, Alexander Johannesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/06, Ross Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I respond with an SVN repository for a ruby OpenURL library (that doesn't currently have any documentation). Not sure

Re: [CODE4LIB] position announcement [retrospective conversion]

2006-08-16 Thread Ross Singer
Thanks, Thom, for solving this problem 20 years too late. -Ross. On 8/16/06, Hickey,Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the problem. You really should have been using the (4,4) key for searching. --Th -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

[CODE4LIB] Digital Library Developer Position at Georgia Tech

2006-07-28 Thread Ross Singer
Georgia Tech Library and Information Center wants to hire a developer to work on our Digital Initiatives projects. https://ea.ohr.gatech.edu/FullDescription.asp?jobid=CEW5631type=3typeofjob=extjobtitle=SYSTEMS%20ANALYST%20II%20(Application%20Developer) Position Summary: The Application

Re: [CODE4LIB] next generation opac mailing list

2006-06-06 Thread Ross Singer
On 6/6/06, Alexander Johannesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You can thank NCSU for bringing the catalogers, reference types, administrators, vendors, etc. to the table. Hmm, how so? I've been at the table with many of them for many years already and know them quite well. :) Are you

Re: [CODE4LIB] Question re: ranking and FRBR

2006-04-11 Thread Ross Singer
Although, at the same time, I think Google has taught us that our result set order doesn't have to be perfect. It just has to be 'relatively accurate' and present enough information to let the user determine its relevance. I think a dependence on technology to 'solve this problem' is more

Re: [CODE4LIB] tagging

2006-03-08 Thread Ross Singer
I'm confused as to why this argument /continually/ gets brought up in a library context, but not in, say, the outside world. del.icio.us doesn't seem to care much about these issue. Nor does amazon. To think that amazon doesn't care about the 'integrity' of its data is ridiculous. It's

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