Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread Chris King
stuart yeates wrote: GPO knows that many institutions have automated URL checkers that run against the PURL server. Please be aware that the PURL restoration process is severely slowed by checkers repeatedly hitting the PURL server. Presumably if there are any parties running automated

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread David Fiander
And how does that absolve such sites from being named and shamed or permanently filtered? If Millenium is acting like a robot in its monthly maintenance processes, then it should be checking robots.txt. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Chris Kingck...@asl.edu wrote: stuart yeates wrote: GPO

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 09/02/2009 09:55 AM, Houghton,Andrew wrote: From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of David Fiander Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:32 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2 If Millenium is acting like a robot

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread Houghton,Andrew
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Dowling Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:25 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2 The III crawler has been a pain for years and Innovative has shown no interest

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread Bill Dueber
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2 The III crawler has been a pain for years and Innovative has shown no interest in cleaning it up. It not only ignores robots.txt, but it hits target servers just as fast and hard as it can. If you have a lot

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread David Jones
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Bill Dueber b...@dueber.com wrote: 2. Should III (and others), when acting as a user agent, be such a dick? In Innovative's defense, the URL verifier is a very limited and configurable 'robot'. - It only verifies the HTTP header response codes for the URLs

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Lebreton
Server Update 2 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Dowling Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:25 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2 The III crawler has been a pain for years and Innovative

[CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Duplantis, Patricia A.
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Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Duplantis, Patricia A. wrote: On- and off-site redundant back-up of all critical hardware and systems is and will continue to be performed by GPO. I don't really understand how this is consistent with: Though the hardware configuration was restored, GPO has worked continuously, including

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread stuart yeates
GPO knows that many institutions have automated URL checkers that run against the PURL server. Please be aware that the PURL restoration process is severely slowed by checkers repeatedly hitting the PURL server. Presumably if there are any parties running automated tools which neglect to

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Edward M. Corrado
Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Duplantis, Patricia A. wrote: On- and off-site redundant back-up of all critical hardware and systems is and will continue to be performed by GPO. I don't really understand how this is consistent with: Though the hardware configuration was restored, GPO has worked

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Kyle Banerjee
4) Server compromised.  Worst case scenario.  They need to preserve all   the drives so they can analyze them and turn over information to   police. This is where written policies and reality often diverge. Getting LE involved is tantamount to throwing away production equipment making a bad

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Edward M. Corrado
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Houghton,Andrewhough...@oclc.org wrote: ... 4) Server compromised.  Worst case scenario.  They need to preserve all   the drives so they can analyze them and turn over information to   police.  They are not going to trust the backup/image since they don't  

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Ross Singer
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Edward M. Corradoecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote: Thus I have to believe them that they did not have a compromised server and instead they had a hardware failure. I have no idea why they couldn't just restore from backup which would at least gotten them back to

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: PURL Server Update 2

2009-09-01 Thread Edward M. Corrado
On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Edward M. Corradoecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote: Thus I have to believe them that they did not have a compromised server and instead they had a hardware failure. I have no idea why they couldn't