Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-30 Thread Tim Donohue
Hi All, There's so many parallel threads here that it's hard to determine which one to respond to. Nice to see all this open discussion though! :) In any case, in regards to choosing future talks and attempting to ensure speaker diversity, this blog post from Sarah Milstein Eric Ries

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Cynthia Ng
I'm really glad to see this discussion continuing. It seems like there's a good amount of support for at least giving a certain amount of sessions over for the program committee to decide. At 15%, we'd be looking at 3-4 slots reserved for the program committee (whoever that might be next year) to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
Curious about the no limit on number of proposals per person. I know we've discussed this before, but I don't remember the reasoning for this decision. Is it just that we limit in the actual presentation (1 presentation max per person) so various proposals are okay? Why not just limit up front?

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Cynthia Ng
I would say, yes, it's because we limit the number of presentations. (Though in reality, I wasn't part of the older discussions). I'd be against limiting up front because people can propose to talk about very different topics that may be of interest to the community. For example, these are the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Ross Singer
On Nov 28, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: How often do people send in more than two proposals anyway? A lot. A whole lot. That said, I don't think we should limit this. If the program committee is comfortable with weeding the second (third, fourth!) elected

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Edward M. Corrado
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: snip How often do people send in more than two proposals anyway? There were a number this year and there has been in the past as well. I favor limiting up front. One of the issues we have been discussing is that

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Ross Singer
On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote: I favor limiting up front. One of the issues we have been discussing is that perception that Code4Lib is not as inclusive as it can or should be. I believe having multiple proposals from the same person(s) and, for

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Jay Luker
As a conference-goer I dislike the idea of limiting proposal submissions for the same reason I dislike term limits: it doesn't let *me* choose from all possibilities. The restriction cuts both ways in that it doesn't just put a limit on presenters but on my choices as well. --jay On Wed, Nov

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Edward M. Corrado
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Jay Luker lb...@reallywow.com wrote: As a conference-goer I dislike the idea of limiting proposal submissions for the same reason I dislike term limits: it doesn't let *me* choose from all possibilities. The restriction cuts both ways in that it doesn't just

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Edward M. Corrado
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote: I favor limiting up front. One of the issues we have been discussing is that perception that Code4Lib is not as inclusive as it can or should

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Jay Luker
Just to clarify, +1 on only one accepted presentation per person -1 on only one submission per person Sorry for any confusion. --jay On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.uswrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Jay Luker lb...@reallywow.com wrote: As a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Kyle Banerjee
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Cynthia Ng cynthia.s...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really glad to see this discussion continuing. It seems like there's a good amount of support for at least giving a certain amount of sessions over for the program committee to decide. Frankly, I'd favor letting

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
maybe i'm just being naive, but i have the feeling if we: a) strongly stated that we support and encourage diversity and would like to see that reflected in our presentation lineup b) allowed people to include some information about themselves in the proposal that increases voter awareness (

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Bess Sadler
Personally, I like the idea of being able to propose as many talks as you want but only give one of them. Many of us have several projects we're working on at any given time. Some of these might be of interest to the community and some not. This way I can let people know what I'm working on and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Cary Gordon
Well, this is the fundamental problem, innit? I have little doubt that a fully curated program would be more interesting to more attendees than the current system. It would also, presumably, be more diverse. The problems are: a) The program committee would need to fairly vet all the proposals,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Abigail Goben
On 11/28/2012 1:16 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: Well, this is the fundamental problem, innit? I have little doubt that a fully curated program would be more interesting to more attendees than the current system. It would also, presumably, be more diverse. The problems are: a) The program committee

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Cynthia Ng
I agree that a full-curated program would have its issues, and honestly, I'd be hesitant to move make such a big leap. It seems everyone agrees at least on the 15% (3-4 sessions) and made of note of it in the documentation, but I'd still like to hear if people either support more (or less). I've

Re: [CODE4LIB] Proposed Changes to Future Conference Program Choosing

2012-11-28 Thread Robin Dean
Cynthia wrote: As to whether people know who's a regular or not, reading through last year's discussion, we might consider the idea of people self-identifying as female, minority, first-timers, etc. as part of their proposals. Thoughts? --- I would like to see the proposal requirements