Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-15 Thread Harper, Cynthia
Perhaps if you exported data from lists that re likely to have items/bibs deleted after you have collected them, you could keep an archive of data. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of don warner saklad Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-15 Thread Graeme Williams
I have a background job that wakes up every night and screen scrapes my reading history and lists into a local database, and updates cached availability information -- so I don't have to worry about the problem that Don mentions. However, this is not a solution that scales to Minuteman's 600K+

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-15 Thread McDonald, Stephen
Don Warner Saklad said: a) Forensics studies deal with how to retrieve deleted unarchived data. So called deleted data is actually available. Computer forensics cannot always get the data back. Television crime shows greatly exaggerate the capabilities of computer forensics. It depends on

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-15 Thread don warner saklad
Thank you Steve McDonald ! On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, McDonald, Stephen steve.mcdon...@tufts.edu wrote: Don Warner Saklad said: a) Forensics studies deal with how to retrieve deleted unarchived data. So called deleted data is actually available. Computer forensics cannot always get

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-15 Thread don warner saklad
For the My Lists feature what steps are actually involved retrieving an altered/deleted listing like [_] Record b2491348 is not available 03-12-2013 by that bibliographic reference code from the 7 month system backup? Perhaps the backup is compressed and searching a compressed file is a barrier

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Searching compressed files is no big deal. First of all, you can always decompress. But if they've just been compressed and not put in a tarball or some other archive format, you can just use zgrep. However, many if not most files are in structures that don't lend themselves to just scanning for

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-11 Thread Kyle Banerjee
The question is how the accounts are being deleted. The only ways I can think of require staff action -- either deleting them directly or overlaying with bad data. While it's conceivable that something else is going on, it's more likely that you either are dealing with a careless or disgruntled

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-11 Thread Matt Amory
I work at a Minuteman Library and I have been in touch with Mr. Saklad offlist. Accounts are not being deleted by the careless or disgruntled. We do have an annual process for deleting inactive accounts based on long-established criteria. What Mr Saklad is observing is the effects of the deletion

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-11 Thread don warner saklad
a) Forensics studies deal with how to retrieve deleted unarchived data. So called deleted data is actually available. b) Setup the system not to delete records belonging to users. Let users keep their information saved for followup. Or at the very least notify users beforehand. Example. Title

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-10 Thread Kyle Banerjee
I thought you guys have Millennium. If that is correct, you won't be able to change the behavior of the system and the only thing you can do is revoke delete permissions for whoever is doing it. kyle On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:29 PM, don warner saklad warnersak...@gmail.comwrote: What can be

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-10 Thread don warner saklad
Any other online forums, groups, email lists about difficulties with Innovative Interfaces software?... Innovative Interfaces Incorporated http://www.iii.com/ is the Integrated Library System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_library_systemprovider for Minuteman Library Network

Re: [CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-10 Thread Tom Keays
Innovative Users Group has a listserv. http://www.innovativeusers.org/iug-discussion-list On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:45 PM, don warner saklad warnersak...@gmail.comwrote: Any other online forums, groups, email lists about difficulties with Innovative Interfaces software?... Innovative

[CODE4LIB] What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts?

2013-10-09 Thread don warner saklad
What can be done to stop deleting of records belonging to users of our Minuteman Library Network in Massachusetts? Or at least notification needs to be made before deleting.