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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu
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If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on
the exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's
: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu
wrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on
the exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's
a conference, it's funded at a significantly lower level
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu
wrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on
the exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since
it's
I've been involved in running library/tech unconferences in the UK (the Mashed
Library events http://mashedlibrary.com). For the second event (organised by
Dave Pattern and others at the University of Huddersfield) we put together a
very short list of things you could expect to get out the
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this were
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this were training in the sense
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson
Amy --
I'm a lurker on Code4Lib. I don't consider myself a coder, but I have been
trying to learn as much as possible to help with my effectiveness at work.
I just completed a Coursera course on programming called, Learn to Program:
The Fundamentals (https://www.coursera.org/course/programming1).
://www.mcw.edu/mcwlibraries.htm
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM
On 11/28/12 10:02 PM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:
Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred to coders,
and some discussion as such has raised the question whether
non-coders are welcome at code4lib.
What's a coder? I'm not trying to be difficult - I want to make
code4lib as
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.eduwrote:
A coder is someone who writes code, naturally. :) code is something
intended to be interpreted or executed by a computer or a computer program.
I think everyone agrees that anyone is welcome at code4lib.
I agree
: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred to coders,
and some discussion as such has raised the question whether
non-coders are welcome at code4lib.
What's a coder? I'm not trying to be difficult - I want to make
code4lib as inclusive as possible.
Mark
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.eduwrote:
A coder is someone who writes code, naturally. :) code is something
intended to be interpreted or executed by a computer or a computer
program.
I think
The mission statement on the code4lib website says The Code4Lib Journal
exists to foster community and share information among those interested
I want to clarify that the Code4Lib Journal is a specific project with a
specific list of people on it's editorial board. In this way, it's unlike
to be elitist about it.
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Michael [michael.fris...@yale.edu]
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Thought process
Then why make the distinction at all? I always thought Code4lib was
about communication between people who make code and those who use it,
recognizing that these are by no means disjoint groups.
I was recently a developer in a place that systematically discouraged
communication between developers
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of Friscia,
Michael [michael.fris...@yale.edu]
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Thought process of a coder:
1- I need to open a file in my program
2- ok, I'll import IO into my application and read the definition
I think my tweet yesterday may have been partially responsible for raising this
question in Mark's mind. I wrote: Debating registering for c4l since I'll be
getting -- at most -- 50% reimbursement for costs , well, I'm not a coder.
Thoughts? When I wrote this, I was using coder in the sense
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blogs; or get right to the heart of it in the chat room on IRC.
From: Jonathan Rochkind
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:02 AM
To: Code for Libraries
Subject: RE: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
The mission statement on the code4lib website
The focus of this community is, and should be, technical. But lots of
people contribute to the code that gets written even if they don't write
code. Librarians, archivists, catalogers, curators, etc., provide coders
with real world problems that need to be solved. People who actually talk
to users
Peterson [cpeter...@jhu.edu]
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I think my tweet yesterday may have been partially responsible for raising this
question in Mark's mind. I wrote: Debating registering for c4l since I'll
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Mark Pernotto mark.perno...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
Dude, I'm positive I'm a coder because I spend a whole lot of time coding,
and I think I do it pretty decently -- and search in Google is a key
Perhaps we just need to use a different word. Yes, it's code4lib but we
don't necessarily need to use coders to describe ourselves. What I find most
important about the community and its conference is that we talk about what we
do at extremely deep and detailed levels... like urtext or source
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Friscia, Michael
michael.fris...@yale.edu wrote:
Thought process of a coder:
1- I need to open a file in my program
2- ok, I'll import IO into my application and read the definition
3- i create methods and functions around the definition and open my file
Total
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
Here, here! But I do really try to figure out what the code does
before implementing/deploying.
I just cut, paste, and deploy.
The users will tell me if I got it right.
Seriously, that is my way of coding too. In
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On 11/29/2012 at 7:52 AM, Andromeda Yelton andromeda.yel...@gmail.com
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On Wed,
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
Perhaps we just need to use a different word. Yes, it's code4lib but
we don't necessarily need to use coders to describe ourselves. What
I find most important about the community and its conference is that we
talk about what we do at extremely deep
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
I just cut, paste, and deploy.
The users will tell me if I got it right.
Seriously, that is my way of coding too.
Wait...what?
So I *am* a
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on the
exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's a
conference, it's funded at a significantly lower level. I'll gladly take
Obviously, we need to offer trainings on how to get funding to attend
conferences. The should be collocated with the conferences.
Cary
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Bess Sadler bess.sad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this
On 29 November 2012, Cary Gordon wrote:
Obviously, we need to offer trainings on how to get funding to attend
conferences. The should be collocated with the conferences.
This is a good idea; this should be a BOF or something---how to hack your
system to get funding---maybe report back with a
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.eduwrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on the
exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's a
conference, it's funded at a significantly lower level. I'll gladly take
Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred to coders,
and some discussion as such has raised the question whether
non-coders are welcome at code4lib.
What's a coder? I'm not trying to be difficult - I want to make
code4lib as inclusive as possible.
Mark A. Matienzo
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred to coders,
and some discussion as such has raised the question whether
non-coders are welcome at code4lib.
What's a coder? I'm not trying to be difficult - I want to make
sure, but there's coding and then there's coding. i'm a sysadmin type, and i
spend a minimal amount of time coding (although i do teach people how to use
the shell to automate their work). i write small bits of code as needed to do
my job, but nothing you'd recognize today. almost all of you
.
From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Mark A.
Matienzo [mark.matie...@gmail.com]
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Subject: [CODE4LIB] What is a coder?
Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred
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